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Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


:mods:

You can hide behind 7 proxies but you can’t hide your shame.

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Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Does the proxy have an option to rewrite the User-Agent header? :ohdear:

The Wurst Poster
Apr 8, 2005

Literally the Wurst...

Seriously...

For REALSIES.

No seriously. I just got that WebTV from eBay and I am going to do it.

http://turdinc.kicks-rear end.net/Msntv/WebTV-EMU/index.html

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


The Wurst Poster posted:

Is there a new link or mirror to the proxy? It seems to have disappeared.


I might need it for...

...reasons...


...Not that something bad can happen from breaking the seal...


...The Pig and Lobster can't hurt us now...


...Did the banning happen or was it just a dream?...


LOL, lucky Lowtax is Perma'd or you too would cop a ban haha

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.
The SA web proxy was removed from the GitHub repo back in january I think (I had to go digging around the commit history to find it).

I ended up modding the original software to fix some issues (iirc there was a missing HTML un-escape in the data stream so <>s in posts would show up with the HTML escape code etc.) and adapt the HTML template a bit to work well with iCab 2.9.
Note sure if it's ok with the author to re-host that version somewhere.

WebOne proxy works very well for me for non-SA stuff, it can be configured to do various patches including re-compressing images and converting formats (including re-sizing as required to avoid loading megapixel size JPEGs or PNGs).
One slightly non-documented feature is it can do a decent job of converting unicode to a codepage old browsers understand, I use "OutputEncoding=1252" in the conf file since that's the "default" codepage in most contexts.
However, there is a bug where it can't proxy to localhost, so I have to run that on a separate machine vs. the SA proxy.

--

Now running ~dual monitors~ on the Mac, I got a miroGraph Chroma v3.3a card for a decent price since there was some surface rust on the connector.
It's unaccelerated, so very slow compared to the PaintBoard Lightning, but it's 1024x768 24-bit capable.
Did a write-up on it here: http://longview.be/mirograph-chroma-v33a.html, it wasn't entirely trivial to make it play ball with standard VGA monitors.

longview has a new favorite as of 11:56 on Apr 8, 2021

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

The Wurst Poster posted:

Is there a new link or mirror to the proxy? It seems to have disappeared.


I might need it for...

...reasons...


...Not that something bad can happen from breaking the seal...


...The Pig and Lobster can't hurt us now...


...Did the banning happen or was it just a dream?...


When I was a kid I got a similar device for free as like some kind of survey/trial thing, can't even remember if they telemarketer called me or I signed up online for it. I got the device and it was terrible and I used it just once or twice to check it out. Some months later they started sending notices that I was to ship it back, which I said hell no I'm not gonna bother. They ended up sending a UPS guy to my door demanding the box back, so I gave it to him. The whole episode was very strange, the device totally sucked, but having a delivery guy demand goods from me was just so weird I never forgot about it.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


I'd like to try loading SA with my Saturn Netlink sometime

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

longview posted:

The SA web proxy was removed from the GitHub repo back in january I think (I had to go digging around the commit history to find it).

I've reuploaded the repo here and I pushed a bundled release so anyone should be able to try it without having to compile it. I nuked it from the other repo because I was going to take that code and build it into a more Generic solution, but I got stuck on how to design something where it would be easy for those to add their own templates and parsers outside the program, and between that and general life stuff I put it on hold.

I don't have time to get back to it, but if anyone wants to add stuff to it, don't be afraid to PR. I'll be happy to accept stuff :).

WebOne is an interesting approach to it, but I'm more interested in re-rendering the pages to work on the old platforms. If I go to Twitter with WebOne, I don't think it'll work because it's an SPA and those old browsers just can't handle that, even with the SSL stripped. But if you proxy the twitter requests and re-render them into the very old Twitter mobile site? That could probably work.

edit:

trying out that webtv viewer



Yeah, there are encoding issues I never got around to fixing. Beyond getting the right encoding from the forums, the other part is sending better HTML to fit whatever browser requests it. And the app does proxy images, but it really does need compression do actually render stuff better on these platforms.

Drastic Actions has a new favorite as of 15:09 on Apr 8, 2021

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

You Am I posted:

Interesting, I didn't know that Tangerine was a tray loading colour, only a slot.

If you need some iMac software give me a heads up as I have the original install CDs for that era of iMac (OS 9 only).

You should stick your head into one of the Amiga meets soon :)

Nice, I might need to take you up on that offer soon.

I've got it up and running on my kitchen bench, unfortunately it's got that fault that most of them eventually develop with the failing flyback transformer, fortunately this one isn't too bad and it only happens after running for a few hours at at time.

Pics incoming when I can tidy up a bit.but

And yeah I've been really lazy about attending the Amiga meets, I've had a lot of stuff going on IRL and haven't had much time. I have family commitments this month but no excuses next month. I've also got a Commodore VIC 20 I'd like to bring along.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Drastic Actions posted:

I've reuploaded the repo here and I pushed a bundled release so anyone should be able to try it without having to compile it. I nuked it from the other repo because I was going to take that code and build it into a more Generic solution, but I got stuck on how to design something where it would be easy for those to add their own templates and parsers outside the program, and between that and general life stuff I put it on hold.

I don't have time to get back to it, but if anyone wants to add stuff to it, don't be afraid to PR. I'll be happy to accept stuff :).

WebOne is an interesting approach to it, but I'm more interested in re-rendering the pages to work on the old platforms. If I go to Twitter with WebOne, I don't think it'll work because it's an SPA and those old browsers just can't handle that, even with the SSL stripped. But if you proxy the twitter requests and re-render them into the very old Twitter mobile site? That could probably work.

edit:

trying out that webtv viewer



Yeah, there are encoding issues I never got around to fixing. Beyond getting the right encoding from the forums, the other part is sending better HTML to fit whatever browser requests it. And the app does proxy images, but it really does need compression do actually render stuff better on these platforms.

:hmmyes: this makes me want to fire up my Apple SE/30

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.

Drastic Actions posted:

WebOne is an interesting approach to it, but I'm more interested in re-rendering the pages to work on the old platforms. If I go to Twitter with WebOne, I don't think it'll work because it's an SPA and those old browsers just can't handle that, even with the SSL stripped. But if you proxy the twitter requests and re-render them into the very old Twitter mobile site? That could probably work.

Yeah, there are encoding issues I never got around to fixing. Beyond getting the right encoding from the forums, the other part is sending better HTML to fit whatever browser requests it. And the app does proxy images, but it really does need compression do actually render stuff better on these platforms.

Absolutely, with the Awful.Web interface WebOne is only really useful for image recompression, scaling, and format conversion.

Another fix that helps a lot is emitting one <table> set per post and messing with the width tags/CSS, that reduces the effect of page-breaking with big images and long lines in <pre> tags or similar.
But I'm pretty sure that wasn't fixed for a long time so it depends on how authentically awesome it's meant to be.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
IT'S ALIVE !!!





Tray-loading Tangerine iMac, 333MHz version, running Mac OS 8.6. This one unfortunately does have the flyback transformer fault they all seem to develop after a while. It manifests as an occasional flicker of the CRT, with a buzzing / arcing noise coming from the back. It doesn't seem to happen unless it's been running for a while so when it happens, I take it as a sign to shut it down and let it cool down. And my god does it get hot, Steve Jobs insisted on passive cooling for everything but the CPU, and even that's passively cooled on later revisions, which is apparently what causes the flyback transformer to fail in the first place.

It even came with the puck mouse, although not a matching colour. I don't know what Steve was smoking when he came up with that one. It's not so bad once you get used to it but come on, it's a mouse. You really shouldn't have to get used to it.

I found that PowerBook G4 at a primary school back when I was doing IT support for the Victorian public school system. This one was apparently purchased for a teacher who left shortly afterwards, and it sat largely unused in the server room for years. It was just too cool to just let it get thrown out as e-waste so I took it with me. As you'd expect, the battery is completely shot through. I've got it running Tiger 10.4.11, and it's come in handy as a go-between for things like burning discs for use with older Macs.

Which brings me to the real reason I have it...

Bargearse has a new favorite as of 03:26 on Apr 11, 2021

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Can't believe I wanted one of those back in the day, that mouse is absurd.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
The mouse is supposed to be used with fingertips, not a whole hand. Think of it like a desk-sized trackpad

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


One of my classmates had a bondi blue iMac and was a big-time Apple fanboy, so I -- with my 350MHz AMD K6-2, 64MB RAM and Riva TNT 16MB -- obviously had some real one-upmanship going with him, always trying to find another thing Mac OS 9 or Windows 98 did better than the other. My PC got better FPS in UT99, which was his favorite game, so I always had that to boast about.

The iMac certainly looked a lot more fancy and futuristic than my beige AOpen tower and generic Targa 17" CRT, that's for sure.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

Sentient Data posted:

The mouse is supposed to be used with fingertips, not a whole hand. Think of it like a desk-sized trackpad

Yeah, once I realised that it wasn’t too bad at all.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Until it gets slightly rotated under your fingers.

E: still better than those weird Sun optical mice that ran on a special gridded mirror-finish mousepad that was tiny and ALMOST square and the grid lines were slightly further apart in one direction than the other, so if the mousepad gets rotated 90 degrees (perhaps as a prank by a coworker) it goes all fucky

Data Graham has a new favorite as of 16:18 on Apr 10, 2021

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


"Not everybody holds mice the same way" could be an entire thread, and I don't mean it in a sort of 'balls' way. It's a neat topic.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Late night playing a CD on one of my LD players

https://i.imgur.com/G26CB2H.mp4

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Dip Viscous posted:

"Not everybody holds mice the same way" could be an entire thread, and I don't mean it in a sort of 'balls' way. It's a neat topic.

"You're holding it wrong" has a much longer history with Apple than I've realized.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


TotalLossBrain posted:

"You're holding it wrong" has a much longer history with Apple than I've realized.

gently caress puck mice and those who designed them. Magic mice also have a special place in hell.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Love to have a wireless mouse that is unusable when plugged in because Apple specifically wanted to forbid people plugging it in and ruining the battery

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Dip Viscous posted:

"Not everybody holds mice the same way" could be an entire thread, and I don't mean it in a sort of 'balls' way. It's a neat topic.
Was this the thread that brought palm/claw/fingertip knowledge to my world? Discovering that people held a mouse differently was mind-blowing, and led to me buying the best mouse I have ever had once I researched the issue more

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Being left handed really sucks as far as cool mice go. Usually the best we lefties can manage are decent ambidextrous mice

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

FilthyImp posted:

Love to have a wireless mouse that is unusable when plugged in because Apple specifically wanted to forbid people plugging it in and ruining the battery

I imagine you're referring to this brilliant design?


Looks more like they just didn't want to break/split/alter the curve of the top section. Design to the detriment of function, and all.
They'd love it if people ruined their batteries so that they have to replace the mouse every other year, though.

I don't understand why you'd want to have a wireless mouse plugged in during use though. Does it have terrible battery life or something?
My logitech vertical only needs a 2-3 hour charge each month or so. If I managed to run it dry while working, I could just plug it in, go make a cup of tea/go to the toilet, and by the time I returned it would have gotten a couple hours worth of use from that 2-3 min charge.


Also, tech relics: 'gaming/work' oriented keyboards that aren't just overpriced mechanical keyboards that maaaaybe have a numpad or media keys if you're lucky.
I miss the mid 2010s where a 50usd+ keyboard would generally give you a numpad, media keys, and a ton of macro keys. (I miss my dead logitech g19. If they remade it again without the screen I'd grab one at a reasonable price. )
It seems like if I want a decent set of macro keys and the like I might as well get one of those 1-hand keyboards that are designed to be super-remappable/mmo oriented, with how the market is currently.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



The Magic Mouse design is easy to laugh at but

quote:

With the Magic Mouse 2, it only takes two minutes to charge the batteries enough to last a 9-hour workday, though if you leave it plugged in overnight Apple claims the batteries will last a whole month.

you can literally charge it while going to the bathroom, I don't think anyone has ever had an actual issue with it.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
i have, i guess, one of the older magic mice and i love the gestures and would miss them if i switched to a conventional mouse, but it’s pretty annoying that it sees my palm resting on it as a second finger

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

EL BROMANCE posted:

you can literally charge it while going to the bathroom, I don't think anyone has ever had an actual issue with it.

Until the mouse's battery dies on you at the worst possible instant, when two minutes might as well be two months.

I do have a super-compact wireless mouse that sees occasional use, traveling along with my laptop. (Where if the battery dies, the touchpad is still right there.) But for the computers that generally stay in the same place, it's wired mice for me all the way. No battery to die, no lag, no way for it (or its USB nub, if applicable) to get lost. What's not to like?

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Powered Descent posted:

Until the mouse's battery dies on you at the worst possible instant, when two minutes might as well be two months.

I do have a super-compact wireless mouse that sees occasional use, traveling along with my laptop. (Where if the battery dies, the touchpad is still right there.) But for the computers that generally stay in the same place, it's wired mice for me all the way. No battery to die, no lag, no way for it (or its USB nub, if applicable) to get lost. What's not to like?

The wire itself? It's not a big issue for me, but it's not nothing.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Powered Descent posted:

Until the mouse's battery dies on you at the worst possible instant, when two minutes might as well be two months.

MacOS is pretty good at giving you updates whenever your rechargeable devices are at about 20% and under, it doesn’t just happen out of nowhere.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

EL BROMANCE posted:

MacOS is pretty good at giving you updates whenever your rechargeable devices are at about 20% and under, it doesn’t just happen out of nowhere.
Sounds like no one's ever used them in a shared workspace or environment like a school.

I guess it's not so much the question of "plug it in and go take a piss", as much as why does the loving thing have to interrupt my workload when I could just plug it in for a while like with the keyboard

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Bargearse posted:


Which brings me to the real reason I have it...



hell yes The Incredible Machine is such a good game

I think I'll play some today, thanks for the inspiration!

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



EL BROMANCE posted:

MacOS is pretty good at giving you updates whenever your rechargeable devices are at about 20% and under, it doesn’t just happen out of nowhere.

You talk like this isn't a world where on every zoom call there's some guy whose smoke detector is going PEEP every two minutes

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I worked in a Mac-centric office when the G3 iMacs were current, and we actually had plastic adapters that clicked onto those idiot puck mice to give them a usable shape.

When I realized that Macs could use normal 2-button mice it was a revelation, and I switched over to those instead. gently caress your weird aesthetic, give me usability.

That said, those G3 iMacs are far from the worst computers to take apart and work on. The eMacs were worse, and the iLamps can gently caress off forever.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Bargearse posted:

Which brings me to the real reason I have it...


Nice old tray drive iMac. I also have the original shorty USB keyboard and puck mouse for my G3 B&W.

I have a boxed copy of OS 9 and happy to ummm, make a backup if you wanted to upgrade it

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
I liked the puck mouse

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



blugu64 posted:

I liked the puck mouse

MODS?!

Enos Shenk
Nov 3, 2011



It's also amazingly uncomfortable to use unless you're a fingertip mouse-pusher. I prefer something chonky enough to curve to my hand, so the one time I tried to use one of these I despised it. Waaaaay too thin.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Being left handed really sucks as far as cool mice go. Usually the best we lefties can manage are decent ambidextrous mice

I switch hands depending on what I'm doing, only Razer seems to make mice that aren't complete hell.

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You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

blugu64 posted:

I liked the puck mouse

:stare:

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