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yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Raccooon posted:

Its insane to me that people don't recognize Biden's coalition is probably super weak once Trump is not on the landscape anymore. Trump gained with every demo except white men. Insane stat.

The suburbs are primed to go back republicans after the meanie is gone and the fact that no one in the media or political sphere acknowledges it is insane.

iunno about the coalition being weak because biden's (and by extension the democrats) core constituency is the affluent professional class which has more or less completely taken over the democrat party and they very much see the gop as the party for the lumpen proles which is somewhat true to an extent. it's why so many never trump republicans flocked over as well. they have much in common in ideology with each other than dipshit Q chuds: a complete decoupling of mass politics and hyperfocused on individual meritocratic self-improvement scolding of their lessers

if biden is gonna lose 2022 and 2024 it's not gonna be at the hands of the polite republicans bailing on him but because of the gop harnessing the populist outrage and mobilizing it (it's why trump was elected in the first place)

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

why not both

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Raccooon posted:

Like legitimately MechaGodzilla killing both of them after their fight would be a good thing but its played as no this would be bad.

its like how the conclusion of synder's superman films being: "he is an unstoppable god that could kill us all at a moment's notice, and must be stopped by any means necessary"

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Raskolnikov38 posted:

its like how the conclusion of synder's superman films being: "he is an unstoppable god that could kill us all at a moment's notice, and must be stopped by any means necessary"

Yeah the Superman v Zod fight and the Godzilla v Kong fight should lead to the yeah we need to kill all of these things because there is no way we can trust something with this much power.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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yellowcar posted:

iunno about the coalition being weak because biden's (and by extension the democrats) core constituency is the affluent professional class which has more or less completely taken over the democrat party and they very much see the gop as the party for the lumpen proles which is somewhat true to an extent. it's why so many never trump republicans flocked over as well. they have much in common in ideology with each other than dipshit Q chuds: a complete decoupling of mass politics and hyperfocused on individual meritocratic self-improvement scolding of their lessers

if biden is gonna lose 2022 and 2024 it's not gonna be at the hands of the polite republicans bailing on him but because of the gop harnessing the populist outrage and mobilizing it (it's why trump was elected in the first place)

I don't think there is much populist outrage. At least not electorally significant populist outrage.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

gradenko_2000 posted:

Hunter Succ Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCgP-_GKb1c

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

okay but what if the solution is more king kongs and godzillas because if everyone had one that would be incentive not to use them right

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

i think youll find that literal world destroying monsters are actually jesus metaphors and the real monsters are the people who think theyre dangerous

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Some Guy TT posted:

i think youll find that literal world destroying monsters are actually jesus metaphors and the real monsters are the people who think theyre dangerous

no Zack that’s not how the world works

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

yellowcar posted:

iunno about the coalition being weak because biden's (and by extension the democrats) core constituency is the affluent professional class which has more or less completely taken over the democrat party and they very much see the gop as the party for the lumpen proles which is somewhat true to an extent. it's why so many never trump republicans flocked over as well. they have much in common in ideology with each other than dipshit Q chuds: a complete decoupling of mass politics and hyperfocused on individual meritocratic self-improvement scolding of their lessers

if biden is gonna lose 2022 and 2024 it's not gonna be at the hands of the polite republicans bailing on him but because of the gop harnessing the populist outrage and mobilizing it (it's why trump was elected in the first place)

Mainly I don't view the PMC to be something that can be relied upon now that Trump is gone. I predict lots of defections of them back to lower taxes blah blah blah.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1380749823603773440

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Raccooon posted:

Yeah the Superman v Zod fight and the Godzilla v Kong fight should lead to the yeah we need to kill all of these things because there is no way we can trust something with this much power.

In short, Ben Affleck Batman was right and failed to deliver the kill when he had the chance.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Raccooon posted:

Yeah the Superman v Zod fight and the Godzilla v Kong fight should lead to the yeah we need to kill all of these things because there is no way we can trust something with this much power.

this was the set-up to Batman v Superman

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


right but is it really such a bad thing when our new big tech overlords are also cracking down on fascist journalists such as

checks notes

literally none of them?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

gradenko_2000 posted:

this was the set-up to Batman v Superman

which then chickens out by having “Martha” being Batman’s safety word

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

lol did the dsa weenies et al successfully fire katie helper and matt taibbi for inviting on max blumenthal and making GBS threads on russiagate
https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/1381043380906561543

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Some Guy TT posted:

right but is it really such a bad thing when our new big tech overlords are also cracking down on fascist journalists such as

checks notes

literally none of them?
watchin the libs melt down about actual journalists going on tucker carlson as maddow leans into the camera to cheer for john bolton literally staging fascist military coups and sanctions

Blockade
Oct 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/communistsusa/status/1380923638921170946

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

gradenko_2000 posted:

this was the set-up to Batman v Superman

Didn't deliver the kill blow though. Mistake.

Braggins
May 21, 2020

No, it's Braggins, not... dammit
Wasn't the CIA involved in the creation of CPUSA?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

the civil war would have ended in six months without the slaves being freed, if it happened at all, if not for brown

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Braggins posted:

Wasn't the CIA involved in the creation of CPUSA?

they predate the CIA by two decades so that would be an impressive feat indeed

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

comedyblissoption posted:

lol did the dsa weenies et al successfully fire katie helper and matt taibbi for inviting on max blumenthal and making GBS threads on russiagate
https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/1381043380906561543

Awww, I kind of somewhat liked the show for the few episodes I listened to it before the pandemic.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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comedyblissoption posted:

watchin the libs melt down about actual journalists going on tucker carlson as maddow leans into the camera to cheer for john bolton literally staging fascist military coups and sanctions

Tucker was literally saying the 14 words on prime time cable last week.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

comedyblissoption posted:

*makes fun of AOC*
RE: the Russia Today > Grayzone > Glenn Greenwald > Jimmy Dore > Tucker Carlson disinformation pipeline
https://twitter.com/im_PULSE/status/1380905492768247813

https://mobile.twitter.com/im_PULSE/status/1380910105437278210

Just completely deranged

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


didnt the civil war kick into gear right after browns attack while douglass trying to negotiate our way out of slavery lasted a decade

or is it racist to acknowledge that now since brown was white and douglass was black

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

mcmagic posted:

Tucker was literally saying the 14 words on prime time cable last week.
yeah and biden was a segregationist while he pal'ed around with grand wizards and eulogized strom thurmond

thanks for adding to the lib hypocrisy

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Braggins posted:

Wasn't the CIA involved in the creation of CPUSA?

CIAPUSA

https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/858892872237498369?s=20

PoontifexMacksimus has issued a correction as of 03:19 on Apr 11, 2021

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Some Guy TT posted:

brown was white

he was?

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Raccooon posted:

Mainly I don't view the PMC to be something that can be relied upon now that Trump is gone. I predict lots of defections of them back to lower taxes blah blah blah.

a big reason why i don't see them breaking up apart is that the democrats, private interests like google/facebook/whatever, and the natsec ghouls all exist as some kind of symbiotic entity now with them swapping and moving figures seamlessly between all three of them and the line differentiating between them blurring as well. legislation and policy being crafted and proposed usually with the consent of the others.

seeing as how the PMC is the dominant ideology in all three of these entities, i find it difficult to believe that they would willingly mess up this relationship because they effectively control everything right now and whatever small disagreements they may have on minutiae, they'd rather spurn a couple of people than give up power to the masses

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1381068483857805314

:thunk:

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

John brown precipitated the loving civil war

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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comedyblissoption posted:

yeah and biden was a segregationist while he pal'ed around with grand wizards and eulogized strom thurmond

thanks for adding to the lib hypocrisy

You can just say Tucker is nazi scum and no one should go on his TV show without doing whataboutism. Everyone knows Biden sucks.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Some Guy TT posted:

didnt the civil war kick into gear right after browns attack while douglass trying to negotiate our way out of slavery lasted a decade

or is it racist to acknowledge that now since brown was white and douglass was black

browns attack spurred the slave states to actually start funding and training their militias in preparation for a war. Douglass was a supporter of brown, he just disagreed with brown’s plan because he (correctly) judged it as unfeasible if not suicidal

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Idrees Ahmad is still very mad the US didn't invade Syria
https://twitter.com/im_PULSE/status/1367309016066531330?s=20
https://twitter.com/im_PULSE/status/1365412412556476418?s=20

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/im_PULSE/status/1285764486612357120
:aochloe:

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009


omg lol

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

lol that dude is the biggest crank in the world

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

mcmagic posted:

You can just say Tucker is nazi scum and no one should go on his TV show without doing whataboutism. Everyone knows Biden sucks.
why are you not insisting people not go on maddow's show or npr who are wooping and hollering for literal fascist military coups with literal nazi swastikas

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