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fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
Whoopsie doodle, shot a guy. We all make mistakes.

How fast does she beat the manslaughter charge she might catch to try and keep things quiet?

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UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
https://twitter.com/AndrewMannix/status/1381658210378088448?s=19

Generation Internet
Jan 18, 2009

Where angels and generals fear to tread.

On top of everything else I hate this poo poo so much.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1381671654716289033?s=19

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

https://twitter.com/deangloster/status/1381665731566166018

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Generation Internet posted:

On top of everything else I hate this poo poo so much.

Yeah, I despise the whole "thin blue line" attitude and cop worship.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

RFC2324 posted:

No one said that

All anyone said is that cops are scum

And this:

fknlo posted:

I really do love the second amendment crowd constantly masturbating over the mere possibility of someone having a gun being more than enough justification for execution on the streets by agents of the state.

Edit: Well that was two pages ago. :/

Godholio fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Apr 12, 2021

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Iirc that guy was an auxiliary because he was so loving ancient.

Ah yep.

quote:

The 2015 shooting of Eric Harris occurred on April 2, 2015, when 44-year-old African-American Eric Courtney Harris was fatally shot during an undercover sting in Tulsa, Oklahoma,[1] as Harris ran from authorities unarmed.[2][3][4] While Harris was being subdued, Tulsa County Reserve Deputy Robert Charles "Bob" Bates, 73, allegedly confused his personal weapon, a Smith & Wesson .357 revolver, for a Model X26 Taser.[5] Bates shot Harris in the back when he was on the ground. According to the Tulsa County Sheriff's office, he immediately said afterwards, "Oh, I shot him! I'm sorry."[6] Bates was found guilty of manslaughter and sentenced to four years in prison.

Ugh it was even dumber.

quote:

It was later determined that Harris did not have a gun when he was tackled and shot. A sunglasses-camera video[7] shows his arms flailing as he runs. Bates was later charged with second-degree manslaughter.[8]

Harris family attorney Donald Smolen said the sunglasses video shows Deputy Bates with a yellow Taser strapped to his chest and a .357 revolver in his right hand as he stands over Harris. "There is absolutely no way, if Mr. Bates had been trained at all, which I believe will be reflected ultimately through the lack of records to substantiate his training, that an officer who was trained would [ever] get these two weapons confused," Smolen said.[9]

In the video, Harris can be heard saying, "I'm losing my breath," to which 38-year-old Deputy Joseph Byars replies, "gently caress your breath." 24-year-old Deputy Michael Huckeby is also shown in the video kneeling on Harris' head as the dying Harris is told, "You shouldn't have ran," and "Shut the gently caress up."

The Tulsa Police Department immediately sought to clarify their relationships with both Bates and Clark. "Robert Bates has no current affiliation with the Tulsa Police Department and has not had any in 50 years," TPD said in a press release. "Additionally, Mr. Jim Clark, a consultant for the Tulsa County Sheriff, does not represent the Tulsa Police Department nor has the Tulsa Police Department conducted an assessment of this incident."[13][14] Later that week, The Tulsa World reported supervisors at the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office were ordered to falsify Deputy Bates' training records.[6]

Sheriff's spokesman Shannon Clark later said the documents wouldn't matter because Bates, a major donor to Sheriff Glanz's re-election, was granted special exceptions.[15]

The sheriff's deputy that certified Bates has moved on to work for the Secret Service, Sheriff Stanley Glanz said during an interview with a radio station,[16] while the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office denied providing Bates with the training he claimed.[17]

Chief Glanz resigned as a result of the scandal around Bates' lack of qualification. In 2016 he pled guilty for failing to release information that showed the department knew Bates to be unqualified. He was sentenced to one year in jail, and the sentence was suspended.[18]

The shooter only served about 1/3 of his sentence.

That Works fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Apr 12, 2021

wins32767
Mar 16, 2007

CommieGIR posted:

I think its safer to say they don't need access to firearms if they cannot deal with them. "Training is only so effective" is such a poor excuse given how often this happens accidentally or on purpose.

Separating the devices so that it's less likely that an officer is going to have both is a good control measure if they keep buying gun shaped tasers. Other changes that could work: opposite handed grips, activation buttons controlled by the thumb, different form factors. Police departments were private businesses, threats of lawsuits would force them to adapt. It's not entirely clear to me why that doesn't work against municipalities.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Godholio posted:

And this:

Do you not know what nuance is or do you think “second amendment crowd” might refer to a specific group of fanatical gun owners? You’re not always being attacked, man.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

boop the snoot posted:

Do you not know what nuance is or do you think “second amendment crowd” might refer to a specific group of fanatical gun owners? You’re not always being attacked, man.

Maybe it's the decade or so of similar bullshit that was in here before that's left a bad taste in my mouth for phrases like that.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Godholio posted:

Maybe it's the decade or so of similar bullshit that was in here before that's left a bad taste in my mouth for phrases like that.

It's the people that won't shut the gently caress up about guns and base their entire identity around them that have zero issue with the police gunning down someone that might plausibly be armed and will use it as justification for the execution. They know it's not going to happen to them and they cheer it on.

So most conservatives at this point.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
https://twitter.com/YoLarryJohnson/status/1381676583111565322?s=19

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
On the one hand, clearly the statement wasn't meant to be all-encompassing.

On the other, this thread often likes painting with a wide brush.

Please move on.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

fknlo posted:

It's the people that won't shut the gently caress up about guns and base their entire identity around them that have zero issue with the police gunning down someone that might plausibly be armed and will use it as justification for the execution. They know it's not going to happen to them and they cheer it on.

So most conservatives at this point.

Now, that I buy. "The second amendment crowd" includes a whole lot of non-conservatives now, and gun ownership expanded quite a bit over the past four years well beyond ^them.

Edit: I'm good with moving on.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
I’m just here for poochie references.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1381679477755904003?s=21

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

fknlo posted:

Whoopsie doodle, shot a guy. We all make mistakes.

How fast does she beat the manslaughter charge she might catch to try and keep things quiet?

Mehserle only got involuntary manslaughter, ended up with 2 years - time served so was only in for 11 months.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Godholio posted:

Maybe it's the decade or so of similar bullshit that was in here before that's left a bad taste in my mouth for phrases like that.

can set a loving clock by you climbing up on that second amendment cross

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

https://twitter.com/dhmontgomery/status/1381692456169799683

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1381689529732595727

A lot of decision-makers put the risk of a CoolZone forming as high, between this thing and the Chauvin trial ongoing.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
The US is getting its own summer fighting season

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



Do it two years and a row and fight summer becomes a tradition.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


facialimpediment posted:

https://twitter.com/dhmontgomery/status/1381692456169799683

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1381689529732595727

A lot of decision-makers put the risk of a CoolZone forming as high, between this thing and the Chauvin trial ongoing.

Hockey too

https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/1381694020502556676?s=20

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Proud Christian Mom posted:

can set a loving clock by you climbing up on that second amendment cross

Oh gently caress off

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

wins32767 posted:

Separating the devices so that it's less likely that an officer is going to have both is a good control measure if they keep buying gun shaped tasers. Other changes that could work: opposite handed grips, activation buttons controlled by the thumb, different form factors. Police departments were private businesses, threats of lawsuits would force them to adapt. It's not entirely clear to me why that doesn't work against municipalities.

Other changes that could work: take away guns from all but a handful of cops responding to specific situations. Much harder to shoot someone if you aren't armed.

wins32767
Mar 16, 2007

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Other changes that could work: take away guns from all but a handful of cops responding to specific situations. Much harder to shoot someone if you aren't armed.

Yeah, that's basically my first item, though maybe not as absolutist.

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!


https://twitter.com/Twins/status/1381675819735597060

Twins as well.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

https://twitter.com/thelauracoates/...ingawful.com%2F

:allears:

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

I dont think I understand what that smiley means in this context - do you want those jurors sequestered?

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1381683122497011714

Glad to see the President cares more about property than whether the cops murdered someone.

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

Grip it and rip it posted:

I dont think I understand what that smiley means in this context - do you want those jurors sequestered?

They're explicitly saying "look, if we sequestered jurors every time a cop shot somebody in the US they'd be perpetually sequestered"

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Grip it and rip it posted:

I dont think I understand what that smiley means in this context - do you want those jurors sequestered?

A judge saying "Well, we just can't sequester every cop-murder jury every time a cop-murder happens during the trial, we'll never get through one because they can't stop cop-murdering" is certainly something

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Glad to see the President cares more about property than whether the cops murdered someone.

It's a bad quote on that tweet, Biden called out violence too.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-calls-peace-calm-wake-daunte-wright-shooting-minnesota-n1263869

quote:

President Joe Biden on Monday called for "peace and calm" in the wake of the"tragic" fatal police shooting of Daunte Wright in Minnesota.

"I haven’t called Daunte Wright’s family, but my prayers are with the family. It’s really a tragic thing that happened," Biden told reporters in the Oval Office of Wright's death Sunday. "The question is, was it an accident? Was it intentional? That remains to be determined by a full-blown investigation," he said, describing the body-camera footage of the shooting as "fairly graphic."

-----

Biden called for any protests to Wright's shooting to remain "peaceful," echoing a plea from Wright's mother.

"There is absolutely no justification, none, for looting, no justification for violence. Peaceful protests, understandable, and the fact is that, you know, we do know, that the anger, pain, and trauma that exists in the Black community in that environment is real, it’s serious, and it’s consequential. But it will not justify violence and/or looting," he said.

"And we should listen to Daunte’s mom, who is calling for peace and calm," he said.

It's not a "only property matters" quote and Biden himself watched the video from the presser.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

shame on an IGA posted:

A judge saying "Well, we just can't sequester every cop-murder jury every time a cop-murder happens during the trial, we'll never get through one because they can't stop cop-murdering" is certainly something

Oh yeah 100% cops should be issued a ticket book and a whistle and nothing else

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

look at this guy who thinks cops are gonna blow whistles

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Yes, it was loving intentional.
She intended to pull the trigger.
It was negligence that it was her weapon. It wasn't a loving accident.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

shame on an IGA posted:

look at this guy who thinks cops are gonna blow whistles

Hope springs eternal

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

shame on an IGA posted:

look at this guy who thinks cops are gonna blow whistles

Holy poo poo

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


shame on an IGA posted:

look at this guy who thinks cops are gonna blow whistles

:vince:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
More 1/6 stuff is out and.....man, its bad

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1381602911969550344?s=20

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Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/mikepompeo/status/1381392669704871942

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