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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Over expired tags Best part was they felt expired tags required 3 officers that we can see...
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Jaxyon posted:Minnesota cops killed another black man and are trying the old chestnut Johannes Messerle used after killing Oscar Grant And that cop was a woman. https://twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1381657719569010688
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Apr 12, 2021 20:51
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That footage is hosed. She 100% should lose her job but a jury isn't going to convict her, because the victim "struggled" and "tried to run".
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Apr 12, 2021 21:28
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LionArcher posted:That footage is hosed. She 100% should lose her job but a jury isn't going to convict her, because the victim "struggled" and "tried to run". Eh. Based on the way even Minneapolis Police leadership are treating it, they want to throw her to the wolves. Misogyny probably.
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CommieGIR posted:Eh. Based on the way even Minneapolis Police leadership are treating it, they want to throw her to the wolves. Misogyny probably. Oh, I don't doubt that they'll "fire her" but I wouldn't be shocked if she gets hired by another department and I'd be surprised if she serves jail time.
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CommieGIR posted:Eh. Based on the way even Minneapolis Police leadership are treating it, they want to throw her to the wolves. Misogyny probably. As a quick FYI, this doesn't involve MPD. She's employed by Brooklyn Center Police Department and this occurred in Brooklyn Center Kalit fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Apr 12, 2021 |
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Apr 12, 2021 22:23
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Kalit posted:As a quick FYI, this doesn't involve MPD. She's employed by Brooklyn Center Police Department and this occurred in Brooklyn Center My bad, thanks.
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https://twitter.com/DrRJKavanagh/status/1381786521498497026
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Apr 13, 2021 05:29
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The writing on this season really is too on the nose.
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Lmao
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Apr 13, 2021 12:54
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https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1382371831261323264 Just unreal.
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Is there a more concise kind of 2-page summary of what policy abolition is and what it would look like? There's a bunch of great articles in the OP like Confessions of a Bastard Cop, but there's a group of people I'm interacting with that need: 1. A short, digestible, summary 2. From a published source (aka, not just me summarizing for them)
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Apr 16, 2021 20:28
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Crosspostin'
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Apr 17, 2021 01:10
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FYI the original is from Reason magazine, which is why I didn't link to it directly. Broken clock, etc.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Is there a more concise kind of 2-page summary of what policy abolition is and what it would look like? Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police by Mariam’s Kaba is a good short introduction to the concept that ran in the New York Times last year.
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https://twitter.com/W_R_Emory/status/1383280504976199680?s=19
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Any gun folks want to confirm? https://twitter.com/RoseCityAntifa/status/1384383658941841409 Harriot again, but this is a really good set of data in response to someone he embarrassed so hard they deleted the post. https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1384294250670526467 Thread that follows is him compiling all the statistics that show how racist police violence is and offering a sweet $5 bet to anyone who can prove him wrong.
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Apr 20, 2021 18:08
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Jaxyon posted:Any gun folks want to confirm? I mean, this is connected to the warrior cop crap alone, white supremacy aside (which its no doubt connected to).
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Apr 20, 2021 18:28
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The Mozambique drill is a shooting technique invented by white South African/Rhodesian mercenaries designed to garantuee a fatal outcome at close range. So yeah, it does have white supremacist connotations and military origins.
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Apr 21, 2021 11:00
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A cop in westminister decided to punch a handcuffed woman on camera. While ACAB, are they all loving dumb too? You’d think that even the dimmer one would take it easy for a few days after Chauvin trial due to public sentiment. I guess just if you always treat people like poo poo, it’s a hard habit to break. https://www.foxla.com/video/925021
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Apr 23, 2021 16:00
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Vahakyla posted:A cop in westminister decided to punch a handcuffed woman on camera. This story is twenty years old, but there is precedent for police being screened out for scoring too high on intelligence tests.
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Apr 23, 2021 16:20
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Vahakyla posted:A cop in westminister decided to punch a handcuffed woman on camera. Cops are complete children with all the "I'm not touching you/simon says" nonsense and bickering over who started it.
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Apr 23, 2021 16:20
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:This story is twenty years old, but there is precedent for police being screened out for scoring too high on intelligence tests. While fair to call them dumb, this precedent isn’t necessary ”cop dumb” because lots of cities have pretty high educational standards and pick smarter ones, they’re just still nazis. This particular case is pretty fair because the citt had issues with people getting hired as cops to get public pay before training, then bolting to other employment after some time with their education and such, basically just using it as a holding pattern. The city is justified in screening out those people. Same poo poo occasionally in fire service, if you got a dude who has two master’s degrees in engineering and is there ”to see where it takes me” because he just got fired or something, when it’s clear he just needs pay and bennies until he’s out of the town. This court case is trotted out as some universal US policy, while it’s evidently a rare case.
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eSporks posted:Another article said the cop punched her after she kicked him in the thigh, but also that he shoved her to the ground before that. yeah the simon says poo poo is loving terrifying. like that rear end in a top hat in the hotel hallway with the loving punisher cop.
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Vahakyla posted:While fair to call them dumb, this precedent isn’t necessary ”cop dumb” because lots of cities have pretty high educational standards and pick smarter ones, they’re just still nazis. Obtaining cops that are inclined to follow orders and not ask questions is a nice fringe benefit though
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Apr 23, 2021 16:30
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Obtaining cops that are inclined to follow orders and not ask questions is a nice fringe benefit though “Smart” people (and by smart I mean score high on IQ tests) don’t have significantly greater life outcomes than an average person, I doubt it will make a huge difference in if they question authority or not.
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https://www.insider.com/doj-weighs-charges-against-chauvin-for-2017-incident-abc-news-2021-4 have some possible good news. the feds are thinking of bring charges up on chauvin for past crimes.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.insider.com/doj-weighs-charges-against-chauvin-for-2017-incident-abc-news-2021-4 its that bohrs comic about them watching a line hit the threshold to jump out and scream BAD APPLE
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The important thing is that it will demoralize cops lol
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.insider.com/doj-weighs-charges-against-chauvin-for-2017-incident-abc-news-2021-4 They also just announced they are looking into the Louisville, KY PD after their shooting of Breonna Taylor.
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This site has some fancy graphics in addition to some good data on police violence https://policeviolencereport.org/
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I'd define police as people that are empowered to use violence to effect an arrest with only probable cause that a crime was committed. That includes municipal police, FBI, postal inspectors, park rangers, etc. Am I right in assuming that this is not the definition people are using when talking about abolishing police? The only goal is to remove municipal police that are performing non-arrest activities while armed?
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NovemberMike posted:I'd define police as people that are empowered to use violence to effect an arrest with only probable cause that a crime was committed. That includes municipal police, FBI, postal inspectors, park rangers, etc. Am I right in assuming that this is not the definition people are using when talking about abolishing police? The only goal is to remove municipal police that are performing non-arrest activities while armed? I’m willing to consider abolishing any of the above but definitely our approach is to municipal policing is fundamentally broken.
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NovemberMike posted:I'd define police as people that are empowered to use violence to effect an arrest with only probable cause that a crime was committed. That includes municipal police, FBI, postal inspectors, park rangers, etc. Am I right in assuming that this is not the definition people are using when talking about abolishing police? The only goal is to remove municipal police that are performing non-arrest activities while armed? No. Police abolition generally means destroying the current institution and creating a new law enforcement system that isn't connected to the hundreds of years of white supremacist policing. Some functions of the new system might be similar to what we currently call policing but a lot of what police currently do isn't really useful and efficient for them to do and funding for those fucntions would go to systems/professionals that are better equipped and trained to do that stuff.
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A lot of law enforcement is hosed up, but municipal police, and county sheriff’s are often the most hosed up, and probably the cause of most police violence and oppression. Something like Postal Inspectors as federal agents are constitutionally mandated. We aren’t abolishing them, and probably not the mainstay federal agencies either like FBI. And I’d say they are pretty reformable, and already ”not as bad”. Lot of the federal agencies are also something voting and progressive politicians have the most control over, as does executive appointment of directors. Local cops are often mired in old white people local politics, or greasy mayors like NYC. Sheriffs are also conservative by design due to rural vote, and have too much power. Municipal cops and sheriffs? They gotta go. Then we start looking at state polices. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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FBI has a very long history of white supremacy as well, but I realize that's going to be harder to abolish than local police.
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Jaxyon posted:FBI has a very long history of white supremacy as well, but I realize that's going to be harder to abolish than local police. It does, no denying. But reversing that course is also a lot easier due to executive power, and the congress. In addition, their high education requirements mean their agents are more professional and career oriented people that you can reform, because the good old boy network is harder to keep up due to civil service laws.
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Jaxyon posted:No. Are you saying that you're generally ok with the powers and duties of the police but you want to abolish the specific system? What would success look like to you? Is the important thing a gap in continuity and a destruction of the culture of policing like the uniforms, warrior culture training, names, etc? Are there any cultures you'd look to for examples of good policing? IIRC historically the Chinese had officials that didn't proactively look for crimes but would investigate crimes that were brought to them? I'm assuming that when you talk about moving responsibilities to organizations that are more suited you're talking about mostly misdemeanor crimes?
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NovemberMike posted:Are you saying that you're generally ok with the powers and duties of the police but you want to abolish the specific system? What would success look like to you? Is the important thing a gap in continuity and a destruction of the culture of policing like the uniforms, warrior culture training, names, etc? Give the first post and the links it contains a once over before asking someone to explain foundational stuff.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Give the first post and the links it contains a once over before asking someone to explain foundational stuff.
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