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mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012

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Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011
every morning i do all the moves right along side my favorite pharmaceutical corporation, pfizer

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Hey the Pfizer shot is a two-stage vax too that dumb lying rear end in a top hat!

And it gave me a boner anyways!

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

so feminista jones had a blue check so I was like who is this person and there are no surprises



pansexuals are not sending their best

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

Former US secretary of state Hillary Clinton expressed fears that the Philippines, one of the US's longtime allies in Asia, might end up heavily indebted to China.

Clinton said this in an exclusive chat with Rappler Plus members after her interview with Rappler CEO Maria Ressa.

"I worry about the Philippines becoming basically a subject of China through financial investments, through the buying of influence, through the undermining of institutions. I think that there's a real danger that, left unchecked, the Philippines – no matter who the leader is – would find itself increasingly unable to act without Chinese approval. I don't think that's the kind of future that the Philippines would like," Clinton said.

Under Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, Manila moved closer to its Asian neighbor, which has since provided loans and donations, and, recently, vaccines. The US has yet to donate any vaccines to other countries, including the Philippines.

Former president Benigno Aquino III, Duterte's predecessor, brought China to court in January 2013. More than 3 years later in July 2016, the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague, Netherlands, ruled in favor of the Philippines. By then, both the Philippines and US had new leaders: Duterte and former president Donald Trump, respectively.

"Unfortunately, we got a new administration in both the United States and the Philippines that didn't even try to enforce it, didn't try to make it a big international issue to point out the aggressive behavior of China when it comes to its neighbors, including the Philippines," Clinton said.

"I think the previous [US] administration really didn't have any policy about the Philippines…. It was one of the many parts of the world that they didn't pay any attention to, didn't say anything about. And I think their ill-advised, incoherent policy toward China enabled China over the last four years to strengthen its position in the Asia Pacific, particularly when it comes to the South China Sea," she added.

With Joe Biden now at the helm, Clinton is confident things will soon change.

"I think you'll find the Biden-Harris administration much more focused on trying to replenish the relationship with the Philippines, the long-standing relationship, some of the defense issues that might be relevant again," she said.

"So I hope that there's an understanding of the self-interest of the Philippines, including by the current administration in your country, that goes back to a closer relationship with the US that would help to balance the overwhelming efforts to try to dominate the Philippines coming from China," she added.

Beijing continues its militarization of islands in the West Philippine Sea, the part of the South China Sea that belongs to Filipinos.

Since late March, Philippine diplomatic and defense officials have demanded China to "immediately withdraw" its ships from area, after over 200 its vessels were first spotted massed in Julian Felipe Reef and later scattered to other areas of the Kalayaan Island Group.

China's embassy in Manila earlier dismissed the allegations of harassment, while Beijing's foreign ministry had called on the Philippines to "stop wanton hype-up, and avoid casting negative influence on bilateral relations and the overall peace and stability in the South China Sea."

Clinton claimed that the US is the "premier friend" to stand with the Philippines against China.

"Well, I think that what the Philippines needs more than anything, is a relationship with the US where the US stands up with the Philippines against unfair illegal Chinese influence," she said.

"I think if you care about the future of the Philippines, about the independence of the Philippines – and the Philippines have fought really hard for a very long time to be independent – then you need friends and the US, I hope, is the premier friend to stand with you and protect you against further incursions by the Chinese to basically dominate Filipino society. I mean, I think that's what you want. And I hope that's what the Biden administration will be able to achieve," she said.

GO AWAY

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



Is this why she's got top billing at that anti asian racism panel?

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

can I get unvaccinated?

How Darwinian
Feb 27, 2011

They're not wrong though lol. Centrists are so smart that Nathan Robinson got traction with them by calling his magazine "Current Affairs". To convince a centrist of anything, just dress it up as you would for a junior undergraduate who is thinking about subscribing to the Economist to "start learning about the world".

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Reality Protester posted:

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Protect each other from harm.
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cracking skulls but lovingly

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

mortons stork posted:

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uh

you guys know that's a GoT thing right

the correct reaction is "watch another show"

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
it's a mismash of GoT and Henry Potter lol

they're making their own new garbage

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

It would probably be best if the shadow president stayed in the shadows.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Not sure why you would be able to get in their heads anymore than anyone else. They can call themselves whatever they want but they don't act like a bloc. That is just the reality. (And it's a problem IMO)

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011


Is this why my pre-vaccination questionnaire asked if I had ever had an anaphylactic reaction to any medication or to any popular young adult fantasy book series?

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



loquacius posted:

uh

you guys know that's a GoT thing right

the correct reaction is "watch another show"

Same poo poo same nerds gently caress em all

Blockade
Oct 22, 2008

Check out this post getting ratio'd:

https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1381620841868361742

Libs really want to keep student debt and are mad about it

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!

Blockade posted:

Check out this post getting ratio'd:

https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1381620841868361742

Libs really want to keep student debt and are mad about it

idk dude the ratio on a tweet like this

https://twitter.com/_Eric_Reinhart/status/1381621997864685573

gives me shareblue/ctr feelings

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Don't worry, Sally's on it

https://twitter.com/SilentAmuse/status/1381960468693200899

The majority of debt is, of course, held by rich people, who don't need to take on debt, because they are rich, but do it anyway, for reasons

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Blockade posted:

Check out this post getting ratio'd:

https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1381620841868361742

Libs really want to keep student debt and are mad about it

lol at just prepending anti racist to any statement. it’s a glib phrase that means nothing, just like bipod/bbipoc ; I wonder what the next hip phrase for 6.5 fig earners will be

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Blockade posted:

Check out this post getting ratio'd:

https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1381620841868361742

Libs really want to keep student debt and are mad about it

They have been told for the last four years that compassionate conservatism is the true anti racism so they are going to react harshly to anyone saying that might not be the case.

Also tweets like these are going to get double ratioed since there's tons of Republicans that see that and hate it even more.

Eggplant Squire has issued a correction as of 14:48 on Apr 13, 2021

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

mastershakeman posted:

lol at just prepending anti racist to any statement. it’s a glib phrase that means nothing, just like bipod/bbipoc ; I wonder what the next hip phrase for 6.5 fig earners will be

I mean, she's right

This is a good usage of it

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Eggplant Squire posted:

They have been told for the last four years that compassionate conservatism is the true anti racism so they are going to react harshly to anyone saying that might not be the case.

Also tweets like these are going to get double ratioed since there's tons of Republicans that see that and hate it even more.

Same as it ever was

alarumklok
Jun 30, 2012

loquacius posted:

Don't worry, Sally's on it

https://twitter.com/SilentAmuse/status/1381960468693200899

The majority of debt is, of course, held by rich people, who don't need to take on debt, because they are rich, but do it anyway, for reasons

doesn't this chart say that you'd triple black wealth by cancelling student loans?

alarumklok
Jun 30, 2012

sorry grey number smaller gonna have to leave you wallowing in debt and pain

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
The people to the right of her on student loan forgiveness are also to the right of Chuck Schumer lol

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Sally Albright is currently repeatedly QTing me to tell her bot farm that she refuses to read Ayanna Pressley's article because it's Bernie Bro propaganda

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


"Um we can't help you because then rich people would benefit so we'll just have to leave things as they are where the rich are doing amazing and you are doing terrible" is the craziest message they landed on and keep pushing.

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


these people are sick!

Waterbed Wendy
Jan 29, 2009
it's toxic and problematic to help everyone if everyone includes rich white kids, this is why I never donate to food pantries which as we all know is frequented by rich people. why are you yelling at me?

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I'm sure there are rich people that take out student loans for whatever reason but even if that is a factor who the hell cares? It's such an inane talking point when noted rich person Hillary Clinton says we can't help the poor because then rich people would benefit. Are there actual for real working class and poor people that nod along with that or is it just the upper middle class that is always on the lookout for an excuse to not help people that "made bad life choices?"

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I went back and dug up a post-mortem of the Libyan "intervention" and jesus christ how did I not know this before: https://www.salon.com/2016/09/16/u-k-parliament-report-details-how-natos-2011-war-in-libya-was-based-on-lies/

quote:

The Foreign Affairs Committee notes in its report that, despite its lack of intelligence, "the UK Government focused exclusively on military intervention" as a solution in Libya, ignoring available forms of political engagement and diplomacy.

This is consistent with reporting by The Washington Times, which found that Qaddafi’s son Saif had hoped to negotiate a ceasefire with the U.S. government. Saif Qaddafi quietly opened up communications with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton intervened and asked the Pentagon to stop talking to the Libyan government. “Secretary Clinton does not want to negotiate at all,” a U.S. intelligence official told Saif.

In March, Secretary Clinton had called Muammar Qaddafi a "creature" "who has no conscience and will threaten anyone in his way." Clinton, who played a leading role in pushing for the NATO bombing of Libya, claimed Qaddafi would do “terrible things” if he was not stopped.

From March to October 2011, NATO carried out a bombing campaign against Libyan government forces. It claimed to be pursuing a humanitarian mission to protect civilians. In October, Qaddafi was brutally killed — sodomized with a bayonet by rebels. (Upon hearing the news of his death, Secretary Clinton announced, live on TV, "We came, we saw, he died!")

The Foreign Affairs Committee report points out, nonetheless, that, while the NATO intervention was sold as a humanitarian mission, its ostensible goal was accomplished in just one day.

On March 20, 2011, Qaddafi’s forces retreated approximately 40 miles outside of Benghazi, after French planes attacked. "If the primary object of the coalition intervention was the urgent need to protect civilians in Benghazi, then this objective was achieved in less than 24 hours," the report says. Yet the military intervention carried on for several more months.

The report explains "the limited intervention to protect civilians had drifted into an opportunist policy of regime change." This view has been challenged, however, by Micah Zenko, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. Zenko used NATO’s own materials to show that “the Libyan intervention was about regime change from the very start.”

In its investigation, the Foreign Affairs Committee cites a June 2011 Amnesty International report, which noted that "much Western media coverage has from the outset presented a very one-sided view of the logic of events, portraying the protest movement as entirely peaceful and repeatedly suggesting that the regime’s security forces were unaccountably massacring unarmed demonstrators who presented no security challenge."

Amnesty International also said it was unable to find evidence for the accusation that the Libyan government had given Viagra to its troops and encouraged them to rape women in rebel-held areas. Then-Secretary of State Clinton, among others, had contributed to this unproven myth.

what the gently caress kind of a Secretary of State actively stops negotiating!

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

What Democrats are really doing here is embracing the politics of spite, like Republicans, without realizing it. The thing is that even if student loan forgiveness does grant more money to the people above median income than below it, it's money that poor people wouldn't have gotten in the first place, so it doesn't really count as regressive unless it's immediately paid for with a flat tax. Not all fiscally regressive legislation is bad, either. Should state governments not pay for libraries if only sales taxes are available to pay for them? The proportion is a lot lower than nearly any bill supported by the Democrats (e.g. 2009 infrastructure bill that had 50% corporate tax cuts, most of the coronavirus legislation), and critics of student loan debt aren't mad at Democrats for supporting those, even though that money goes to the top 1%, not the top 50% or 25%. Where is this sentiment then?

Student loan forgiveness can be accomplished by executive action. If Joe Biden wanted, he could even use the threat of forgiving all $1.4 trillion in loans as leverage unless Congress passes a bill to 60 votes to spend the money on something else.

I'd post this as a Twitter reply to one of the people on there but gently caress if I'm going to figure it out how to break it down into 280 character length snippets

galenanorth has issued a correction as of 15:09 on Apr 13, 2021

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


She loving sucks as much as her lovely husband. Just wanting to swing that military around as much as possible.

Eggplant Squire has issued a correction as of 15:10 on Apr 13, 2021

Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009

Eggplant Squire posted:

I'm sure there are rich people that take out student loans for whatever reason but even if that is a factor who the hell cares? It's such an inane talking point when noted rich person Hillary Clinton says we can't help the poor because then rich people would benefit. Are there actual for real working class people that nod along with that or is it just the upper middle class that is always on the lookout for an excuse to not help people that "made bad life choices?"

It speaks to the mentality of the Aristocracy wanting the plebs to be happy and thankful for every scrap, while continually smacking the hand of anyone who asks for more. It loving sucks.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Waterbed Wendy posted:

it's toxic and problematic to help everyone if everyone includes rich white kids, this is why I never donate to food pantries which as we all know is frequented by rich people. why are you yelling at me?

rich white people CAN walk into soup kitchens and get free food, so I will assume that they do this all the time and this is actually their main focus

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


galenanorth posted:

What Democrats are really doing here is embracing the politics of spite, like Republicans, without realizing it. The thing is that even if student loan forgiveness does grant more money to the people above median income than below it, it's money that poor people wouldn't have gotten in the first place, so it doesn't really count as regressive unless it's immediately paid for with a flat tax. Not all fiscally regressive legislation is bad, either. Should state governments not pay for libraries if only sales taxes are available to pay for them? The proportion is a lot lower than nearly any bill supported by the Democrats (e.g. 2009 infrastructure bill that had 50% corporate tax cuts, most of the coronavirus legislation), and critics of student loan debt aren't mad at Democrats for supporting those, even though that money goes to the top 1%, not the top 50% or 25%. Where is this sentiment then?

Student loan forgiveness can be accomplished by executive action. If Joe Biden wanted, he could even use the threat of forgiving all $1.4 trillion in loans as leverage unless Congress passes a bill to 60 votes to spend the money on something else.

I'd post this as a Twitter reply to one of them but gently caress if I'm going to figure it out how to break it down into 280 character length snippets

They are but are there really poor people that hate the rich so much they want to screw themselves over while also supporting the Democrats which are made up of incredibly rich families and individuals? It feels like red meat for voters that don't significantly exist.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Blockade posted:

Check out this post getting ratio'd:

https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1381620841868361742

Libs really want to keep student debt and are mad about it

Of course they are mad. They want to bring back debt prisons and slavery. This would set back the grand scheme.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I can't really make heads or tails of what KHive's problem with Ayanna Pressley's statement is

they think that if you forgive student debt, it's going to WORSEN income inequality because lots of white people are going to get off scot-free on their debt... so therefore the more racially just policy would be to forgive student debt for black people only???

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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Woke liberalism isn't about equality, stopping the suffering and death, or fixing the systems. It is about groups of professional class minorities wanting to become the oppressors instead of the oppressed.

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