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Inzombiac posted:Our big, bloated system was changed recently so that if I make a record of something, I am no longer allowed to amend it. I have to delete the whole thing and start over. Our company did that with a type of request because the old format and the new format are incompatible in some way. Somehow amid all the changes they didn't make it so links to requests take you to the object or put the status of the request in the title bar, or reformat any of the UI that was inconsistent/unintuitive. Apparently the format change is the improvement, everything else was just too good to mess with.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Discussion beginning about returning employees to the office. Everyone is hoping for at least a hybrid model to allow WFH two days a week but no official word yet. They made it clear total remote work won't be an option, dunno why as I haven't set foot in the office for over a year with zero issues. I took a position with a company starting in February after my boss said during the interview I could expect a hybrid model after my initial month with them. We got two days a week starting a little bit over a month ago but I heard her mention to our newest hire that we’re going down to one day a week. Then after that convo, I heard her in a discussion with her higher up who expressed dissatisfaction anyone was working from home which leads me to believe hybrid is going away entirely. I feel like I was misled.
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Apr 13, 2021 18:28
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Boomer bosses hate work from home. That’s why.
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Apr 13, 2021 18:33
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My agency announced we're opening next month and only working one day a week at the office, I just super hope they make it a standard thing to work some days in and out of office.
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Apr 13, 2021 18:34
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Boomer bosses don't feel superior unless they can make other people physically uncomfortable with their presence. Isn't that basic office life 101?
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Apr 13, 2021 18:35
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poisonpill posted:Boomer bosses hate work from home. That’s why.
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TontoCorazon posted:My agency announced we're opening next month and only working one day a week at the office, I just super hope they make it a standard thing to work some days in and out of office. Mine is saying we'll probably go to 2-3 days in the office but maybe we get to choose which ones?? There are load of people with non-traditional schedules so them saying we can WFH every Friday is not going to benefit 25% of the workforce.
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Apr 13, 2021 18:46
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Used to be that you could fairly easily get partial homeworking, but only Tuesday to Thursday because so many people liked long weekends that there were shortages of bodies in the office. But that was prepandem, so who knows what it'll be like when we go back. Might make parking easier/possible.
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Apr 13, 2021 18:54
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I work for a state agency that assists other state agencies, and there's often no layer of management protecting me from whatever work requests might come in. It's been better lately, but I have two massive work tasks that got dropped on my lap that my direct boss had no clue about. This both means that I'm busy as gently caress, and that if I could also basically gently caress off and do nothing all day and nobody would notice since my workload often being massive is well known to all. Also our leadership being mindboggled at the fact that nearly everyone under 40 bails after ~5 years or so. Who doesn't want to be stuck in a rural state capitol making half the money you'd make in the public sector?
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Apr 13, 2021 19:03
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poisonpill posted:Boomer bosses hate work from home. That’s why. It's not only this though. It's also justifying all the money they're paying for an office in the first place. Some cities/states also give tax breaks to companies if they have a certain number of butts in seats at offices and a bunch of other dumb bullshit. But yes also command and control management is probably the biggest factor.
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It's the opposite here. Boomer bosses love working from home with their families and gardens and pets and walks round the village green. Actual staff live in tiny shared flats; 5x twentysomething professionals round the kitchen table with laptops and no outdoor space. It has also allowed our lovely managers to abdicate all actual management duties and dump it on us. I had a client mention to me they hadn't even heard from the manager since we started work. I mean if I was them I'd be asking why I'm being billed hourly for a manager I never even spoke to... Strategic Tea fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 13, 2021 |
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Apr 13, 2021 20:02
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Inzombiac posted:Mine is saying we'll probably go to 2-3 days in the office but maybe we get to choose which ones?? Yeah that was a big concern that was addressed on their announcement, they made it pretty clear people can request different days as long as it kept the office not full and everybody is distanced from everybody else, also today they said we can request staggered schedules so we can avoid crowded public transport, 7am through 11am. Which is fine by me, I might take advantage of coming in early to leave early
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Strategic Tea posted:It's the opposite here. Boomer bosses love working from home with their families and gardens and pets and walks round the village green. That was probably what they were doing when they said that
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You know you got the hook really set when you can bill time from completely unrelated managers because it's related indirect 
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TontoCorazon posted:Yeah that was a big concern that was addressed on their announcement, they made it pretty clear people can request different days as long as it kept the office not full and everybody is distanced from everybody else, also today they said we can request staggered schedules so we can avoid crowded public transport, 7am through 11am. Which is fine by me, I might take advantage of coming in early to leave early I'm extremely lucky to have a schedule that is "attend a couple critical meetings but get your hours in wherever you can." Per my AV, I suffer from wicked insomnia so a lot of work days start at 2am.
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My Boss, who lives in a tower blessed by the gods, refuses to come into the office to work but continues to send studies that microsoft employees were craving going back to the office. The gently caress my dude.
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poisonpill posted:Boomer bosses hate work from home. That’s why. Yup. Pre-Pandemic my MegaCorp was kinda thinking about considering letting a tiny number of employees pilot a WFH program and even that had taken years. Zero reason not to offer it as an option other than our senior management disliking the idea. Which I wouldn't mind as much if they offered sufficient parking or if the office was somewhat nice, but they don't and it ain't.
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We have been sent a future working plans survey. They're making noises that suggest everyone who does want to be in the office will be hotdesking. It ain't going down well.
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goatface posted:We have been sent a future working plans survey. They're making noises that suggest everyone who does want to be in the office will be hotdesking. It ain't going down well. Sounds like they want everyone to not want to be in the office.
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There are still plenty of people in my office who are boomers and tea drinking cat ladies and middle aged MAGA women who are going to the office, I suspect by choice? Our department is all email and phone calls to reps around the entire west coast so nothing has been impacted at all really. I pray my boss agrees and realizes we can do the exact same stuff from home that we could in the office. There were some tacit “can’t wait to see you guys back at the office” platitudes like 9 months ago but cases are going up in our state again, which I am secretly almost grateful for and praying that no one suffers but eventually my department will just go permanently remote since for the rest of our company and clients, nothing has changed.
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AHH F/UGH posted:There are still plenty of people in my office who are boomers and tea drinking cat ladies and middle aged MAGA women who are going to the office, I suspect by choice? Was trying to think of legit advantages of being in my office: -I sometimes need to call Canada and if I use an office phone it's not billed to my cell phone. I'm struggling to think of more. I did like walking around a neighboring park during lunch when I was in a different building, but then we were switched to another building and it's just parking lots.
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Barudak posted:My Boss, who lives in a tower blessed by the gods, refuses to come into the office to work but continues to send studies that microsoft employees were craving going back to the office. Hyrax Attack! posted:Was trying to think of legit advantages of being in my office:
All that and I'm not really excited to go back.
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You know what's the best combo? Everyone else is WFH while I need to go in a few hours a week to a completely empty lab. So nice I really dread everyone else coming back.
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zedprime posted:Five minute commute is a perfect jaunty ride to wake up in the morning As a fellow short commuter, this is the thing making the rest of your list even remotely (  ) viable. A low-stress start and end to the day is amazing compared.to the ~25 minute each way average commute time.
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starting a new job tomorrow, i straight up told them during the interview process that i'm never going back to an office and they were fine with it. just have to do an onsite visit maybe 1x a quarter for a couple days, seems reasonable to me
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zedprime posted:People making rules and laws are the ones who most need the rules and laws applied to. Addendum that in certain parts of hell society they are also the ones the rules apply least to.
I guess you could say there are pros and cons that have to be carefully weighted!
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My office is located underneath an overpass, beside a train railway with the other side a cement factory. You open a window to get "fresh" air and all your poo poo is covered in sand and dust in 5 minutes. The building is from 1900 so it got grandfathered in and doesn't have to provide certain features like multiple bathrooms, fire escapes, etc. Also you get to work on a 13" laptop screen in a "private" office where all the paper records are kept, resulting in the water being leeched from the air. I'm not going back.
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boar guy posted:starting a new job tomorrow, i straight up told them during the interview process that i'm never going back to an office and they were fine with it. just have to do an onsite visit maybe 1x a quarter for a couple days, seems reasonable to me This is living the dream. Hopefully once I get my certs I can look for a new job (while still working at my current one) and just be so brazen. I've been on a summer vacation for the past year+ and yet somehow have managed to do the complete the same amount of work and get paid the same mediocre salary for it.
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AHH F/UGH posted:I've been on a summer vacation for the past year+ and yet somehow have managed to do the complete the same amount of work and get paid the same mediocre salary for it. and obviously, this is why they want everyone back at work. the illusion that we all have to share personal space to get anything productive done has been shattered, an entire class of workers (managers) has been shown definitively to be redundant, and restaurants need people to have lunch there and building engineers and custodians and groundskeepers need jobs too and the idea of shifting away from what's always been done to what makes sense now is terrifying
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Volmarias posted:It has already killed my relationship to probably the most perfect partner I've ever or will ever meet, bringing existential questions like "am I actually able to have life long relationships or is every romance destined to end so don't bother getting attached" I think they call this one "getting married" boar guy posted:and obviously, this is why they want everyone back at work. the illusion that we all have to share personal space to get anything productive done has been shattered, an entire class of workers (managers) has been shown definitively to be redundant, and restaurants need people to have lunch there and building engineers and custodians and groundskeepers need jobs too and the idea of shifting away from what's always been done to what makes sense now is terrifying lmao modern America is founded upon middle managers of the real estate, restaurant, custodial services and landscaping companies being welfare queens living off of the work of a competent but disinterested (AKA normal people) working class God forbid the Applebee's near the office closes right AHH F/UGH fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Apr 14, 2021 18:06
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Volmarias posted:[*] Help me you're allowed to go for a walk, yo
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boar guy posted:you're allowed to go for a walk, yo Oh well just kill me now then.
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boar guy posted:and obviously, this is why they want everyone back at work. the illusion that we all have to share personal space to get anything productive done has been shattered, an entire class of workers (managers) has been shown definitively to be redundant, and restaurants need people to have lunch there and building engineers and custodians and groundskeepers need jobs too and the idea of shifting away from what's always been done to what makes sense now is terrifying It's the unspoken understanding that for a lot of people there just aren't forty hours worth of work, so they'll keep paying you for those forty hours, but you gotta sit at the office while you don't work instead of doing it comfortably from home.
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Batterypowered7 posted:It's the unspoken understanding that for a lot of people there just aren't forty hours worth of work, so they'll keep paying you for those forty hours, but you gotta sit at the office while you don't work instead of doing it comfortably from home. absolutely. they should just tell you this straight up, in college. i mean do you know what a huge benefit it is just to have an open window next to me that i can see sunlight and hear birds through while i work? no office is going to ever give me that
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Imagine people just working less than 40 hours intentionally and this not being an immediate sentence to poverty lmao
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Meme Poker Party posted:Imagine people just working less than 40 hours intentionally and this not being an immediate sentence to poverty lmao this is the most deranged, insane thing i've ever seen posted on these god drat forums or anywhere for that matter. what the gently caress is wrong with you
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Meme Poker Party posted:Imagine people just working less than 40 hours intentionally and this not being an immediate sentence to poverty lmao Reporting this to HR.
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ben shapino posted:this is the most deranged, insane thing i've ever seen posted on these god drat forums or anywhere for that matter. what the gently caress is wrong with you Society could be improved somewhat!!!
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boar guy posted:you're allowed to go for a walk, yo Really? I never thought of that! Thanks, I'm cured!
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ben shapino posted:this is the most deranged, insane thing i've ever seen posted on these god drat forums or anywhere for that matter. what the gently caress is wrong with you I don’t understand. Are you mad people are working less than 40 hours a week and skating by pretending to?
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