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Straight White Shark posted:I like that Solomon Dave can tell what's going on and knows it's a good idea but he's still pissy about them loving with his house GRNNNNNNNN is just the sound Solomon makes when people touch his stuff.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Chaos just starts doing the Shin Getter thing where it uses combining into people as an attack maneuver It's going to be Gurenn Lagann with giganto-Voltron woman spitting out smaller and smaller women until it's just Alison popping out to punch Jaggatron in the eye.
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jsoh posted:when maya shows up to kill incubus aspected chaos is just going to eat her. Now I have an invisible sword HO - HO - HO
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https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1382182164142424065 Jaggs is a Vogon poet, apparently.
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Zoss not actually having beaten Metatron and then being allowed to play act as supreme badass ruler of all would be a bit of a swerve. I take it that the other demiurges would probably also be surprised to learn that.
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Unveiling! And here is the time loop. According to Jagganoth Zoss has given his power to others before - Allison is not the first being to be The One. But that heir fails and Zoss tries again.
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the way i read it, assuming Jagg is not misinformed or lying, is that Zoss beat the poo poo out of Metatron and then Metatron, lying there defeated, volunteered the names of god, giving Zoss power over creation in order to... curse and/or subvert Zoss in some manner that is not entirely spelled out but appears to be related to either literal time travel or metaphorical cycles of violence and eternal recurrence. also, the first panel with the floating island is incredibly pretty.
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Apr 14, 2021 05:18
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I would not trust Jaggs to have this more than 50% correct.
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a computing pun posted:the way i read it, assuming Jagg is not misinformed or lying, is that Zoss beat the poo poo out of Metatron and then Metatron, lying there defeated, volunteered the names of god, giving Zoss power over creation in order to... curse and/or subvert Zoss in some manner that is not entirely spelled out but appears to be related to either literal time travel or metaphorical cycles of violence and eternal recurrence. My take would be Metatron suckered Zoss by giving him the names so he'd act unwittingly to Metatron's design. Like the whole reveal with Mass Effect's technology; Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along the paths we desire.
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habeasdorkus posted:https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1382182164142424065 WHY ARE PEOPLE OUT FOR A SAIL JESUS CHRIST
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Bilirubin posted:WHY ARE PEOPLE OUT FOR A SAIL JESUS CHRIST They may have been trying to escape the fires in the part of the city that wasn't completely obliterated. And then suddenly some rear end in a top hat went and yanked a mountain out of the sea!
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Metatron, lying in a crumpled heap and bleeding feathers from every wound: "I freely gave Zoss the names, he didn't beat me to a feathery pulp at all. These wounds? An entirely unrelated issue."
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"im not owned! im not owned!", i continue to insist, as i slowly shrink and transform into a cool white flame
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a computing pun posted:the way i read it, assuming Jagg is not misinformed or lying, is that Zoss beat the poo poo out of Metatron and then Metatron, lying there defeated, volunteered the names of god, giving Zoss power over creation in order to... curse and/or subvert Zoss in some manner that is not entirely spelled out but appears to be related to either literal time travel or metaphorical cycles of violence and eternal recurrence. it has been hammered into us one thousand times that being royalty sucks, has it not? that's all you need to curse someone
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Is it really a huge surprise that the guy who is known to have hosed up everything in the first place is perhaps a bit of a fuckup? Like, I never really took Zoss at face value anyway, because the theme of an old man telling a young woman what to do being a right and good thing doesn't really jive with the rest of the comic.
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Bilirubin posted:WHY ARE PEOPLE OUT FOR A SAIL JESUS CHRIST It’s only been like 20 minutes since the massive tournament finale was interrupted with the start of the apocalypse. They were probably all drunk wealthy assholes on the gorgeous little lake Solomon setup.
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i've been ruminating over a further theory even before today where zoss might not be the first Conquering King, just the first one to beat the poo poo out of Metatron the first X Quadrillion accepted his gift willingly or defeated him less thoroughly, Zoss was slightly more royal or at least slightly more incubussy and that's what originally threw the whole monomyth off kilter but it wasn't enough to prevent Metatron from getting his very nearly perfect, very nearly infertile circle on
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M_Gargantua posted:It’s only been like 20 minutes since the massive tournament finale was interrupted with the start of the apocalypse. They were probably all drunk wealthy assholes on the gorgeous little lake Solomon setup.
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Bilirubin posted:WHY ARE PEOPLE OUT FOR A SAIL JESUS CHRIST I think those boats were moored to the arena island, while it was still there. Alternatively
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Reclaimer posted:Is it really a huge surprise that the guy who is known to have hosed up everything in the first place is perhaps a bit of a fuckup? I'm not so sure about that. Zoss has been pretty much 100% on the money so far. It was he who told her to trust White Chain, which was pretty much objectively correct, and he hasn't ever really told her directly to do anything I don't think? He mostly showed contempt at IncubusAllison being kind of a shithead and a repetition of the sins of old which...well. Yes.
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I mean Zoss pretty much says the same thing as Jags here: https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/king-of-swords-10-141/ Guildenstern Mother fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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nimby posted:Metatron, lying in a crumpled heap and bleeding feathers from every wound: "I freely gave Zoss the names, he didn't beat me to a feathery pulp at all. These wounds? An entirely unrelated issue." Maybe he already looked like that. 
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Or to put it another way, I think the reason why Zoss is probably MOSTLY trustworthy is he is not an Old Man telling a young woman what to do, he’s an Old Man telling a young woman “here’s how I hosed up REAL bad please try anything other than that and hopefully be better than me”.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Or to put it another way, I think the reason why Zoss is probably MOSTLY trustworthy is he is not an Old Man telling a young woman what to do, he’s an Old Man telling a young woman “here’s how I hosed up REAL bad please try anything other than that and hopefully be better than me”. He's got his finger on the reset button in case she doesn't resolve this impossible situation to his liking. He's still loving up. Guildenstern Mother posted:I mean Zoss pretty much says the same thing as Jags here: Jags' revelation is that Zoss is Metatron's catspaw though.
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Reclaimer posted:He's got his finger on the reset button in case she doesn't resolve this impossible situation to his liking. He's still loving up. Quite possibly yes! But I also do not trust Jaggs to be 100% accurate here either. He is still an antagonist at the end of the day and is convinced that he can fix things via omnicide. He can be correct that there is a time loop but that doesn’t mean Zoss is necessarily Metatron’s catspaw. It’s too early to fully trust Sadbrains McOmnicide. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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I'm just glad Jagg's finally straight up said what the story had been hinting at re: time loops so that topic is no longer up for debate.
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Yeah, now the new ambiguity is over whether Jagganoth knows that Zoss had a change of heart or not.
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It's equally likely that Jagganoth is being played by Metatron, up to being tricked into believing Zoss had complete mastery of the wheel, including a reset button. If he's correct, though, that does raise some interesting questions about what exactly Jadis saw when she looked at the shape of the universe. If it's all time-loopy, could be a good source of her ability to 'see' the future. It's not that she sees the future, she actually just remembers a past reset. (Also a reason why she wrongly identified Zaid as the successor)
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Is this the first time anyone has mentioned capital-R Royalty in the comic proper?
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YaketySass posted:Yeah, now the new ambiguity is over whether Jagganoth knows that Zoss had a change of heart or not. And/or whether he truly did
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GunnerJ posted:Is this the first time anyone has mentioned capital-R Royalty in the comic proper? White Chain first introduces herself back in chapter 1 with "I am an ardent student of the 47 Empty Palms and know of the 4th syllable of Royalty."
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The one eyed Allison is going to be the next cycle's Zoss figure. Her cycle will be better than this one, with less cruelty, bloodshed, hatred, and death... but still a lot of cruelty, bloodshed, hatred, and death because she can't get it perfect.
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habeasdorkus posted:The one eyed Allison is going to be the next cycle's Zoss figure. Her cycle will be better than this one, with less cruelty, bloodshed, hatred, and death... but still a lot of cruelty, bloodshed, hatred, and death because she can't get it perfect. i wonder if that isn't the future this allison ends up trying to avert
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Alternatively, we're going to get some straight-up Odin poo poo, and she'll voluntarily sacrifice her eye for knowledge of how to break the cycle.
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GunnerJ posted:Is this the first time anyone has mentioned capital-R Royalty in the comic proper? Nope: https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/king-of-swords-1-7/
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nimby posted:Metatron, lying in a crumpled heap and bleeding feathers from every wound: "I freely gave Zoss the names, he didn't beat me to a feathery pulp at all. These wounds? An entirely unrelated issue." Victory plumage
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nimby posted:Metatron, lying in a crumpled heap and bleeding feathers from every wound: "I freely gave Zoss the names, he didn't beat me to a feathery pulp at all. These wounds? An entirely unrelated issue." victory angel wine
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joke's on you; i actually love being body slammed by one dozen cubut spears. and my mouth isn't filled with names, it's victory words
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Jagganoth actually just implied Zoss can't reset the world again, because Zoss no longer has all the Names of God. Allison does. Maybe the intention is that Zoss doesn't need them to spin the wheel and laugh at God, but that would be surprising given Zoss' general demeanor and his whole 'strength beyond strength' monologue. It would be a really good move to have the time loop actually have ended, and Jagganoth has been treating everyone as disposable because hey, time travel! It would be one way of making him more amenable to reason. However... I am disappointed that Jagganoth's 'time itself' is apparently only and solely a time loop, not the basic nature of violence and transience, because it makes his position much less compelling if he's just specifically mad about time travel, and not the futility of all action within a world of limitation.
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