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Oh so it's satire? That's pretty cool.
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I'm trying to figure out how in the world you get to Frank Miller becoming a character in a Watchmen spin-off and I can't do it. It's like having Joe Kubert meeting Captain Carrot.
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I read the first issue and it was very tough to get a bead on it. Definitely not the normal Tom King thing but I also wouldn't go so far as to call it good based on the first issue alone. It referenced the very weird true anecdote about Frank Miller and Otto Binder conducting a seance and chatting about UFOs at Binder's house in the 70s so like-- weird Frank Miller trivia has been baked in from the beginning. Frankly I think more comics should talk about Otto Binder doing seances.
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Apr 14, 2021 04:35
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I can't think of anything more Inside Baseball WRT to comics than to make a Watchmen spinoff comic about Frank Miller. Like whooooo gives a gently caress at that point.
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Apr 14, 2021 05:49
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Haven't you seen the success of Cates' crossover and Kirby as God in the 616
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site posted:Haven't you seen the success of Cates' crossover and Kirby as God in the 616 The Kirby as God thing is like a couple panels and even if you have no idea who Jack Kirby is, God in the 616 being a guy sitting over a comic drafting board isn't that hard of a metaphor to understand. Plus you know, Kirby created the F4, the comic that appeared in. Frank Miller had gently caress all to do with Watchmen, the only connection is both Frank Miller and Alan Moore being blamed for later horrible comics that they inspired, whereas I blame the people who wrote and illustrated those bad comics, and the companies that said "make us more comics like that."
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Apr 14, 2021 07:22
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well, they're right that it's not what i'd think. it is dumber and more masturbatory than i would have guessed.
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Apr 14, 2021 11:04
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Skwirl posted:The Kirby as God thing is like a couple panels and even if you have no idea who Jack Kirby is, God in the 616 being a guy sitting over a comic drafting board isn't that hard of a metaphor to understand. Should've made it so Alan Moore is the god but whenever he shows up it's always 20 pages of text instead of comics.
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Apr 14, 2021 11:09
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That would require admitting Alan Moore created Watchmen, which is something DC hates doing.
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Apr 14, 2021 11:15
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Kwyndig posted:That would require admitting Alan Moore created Watchmen, which is something DC hates doing.  Did he ask for his name to be taken off of it, like with that "The Original Writer" credit on Miracleman a while back?
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Apr 14, 2021 11:30
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he just refuses to let people attach his name to an adaptation of one of his works
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Apr 14, 2021 11:37
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Zetsubou-san posted:he just refuses to let people attach his name to an adaptation of one of his works Alan Moore did allow his name to be credited on the JLU episode "For The Man Who Has Everything". It may actually be the only adaptation his name is on as far as I know.
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Apr 14, 2021 13:03
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Should've made it so Alan Moore is the god but whenever he shows up it's always 20 pages of text instead of comics. I'm pretty sure Alan Moore has prepared for the scenario where one of his creations knocks on his front door, and he would blast them on sight.
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Apr 14, 2021 13:10
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AfroSquirrel posted:I'm pretty sure Alan Moore has prepared for the scenario where one of his creations knocks on his front door, and he would blast them on sight. With a massive spliff.
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Apr 14, 2021 14:13
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Kirby as God has been done before. Predates Cates.
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Apr 14, 2021 14:24
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Mark Waid's Fantastic Four. It was wonderful.
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Apr 14, 2021 14:31
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Alan Moore already did the meet his creation shtick. And he did it better. The ultimate secret of magic (i.e. any artistic endeavor) is that any fool can do it.
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Apr 14, 2021 14:32
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Saoshyant posted:Alan Moore already did the meet his creation shtick. "Wide" as opposed to straight-and-narrow?
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But enough about Tom King's cringe.jpg Here's the final pages of Sobek by Stokoe, where a cult tries to have their god save their city from another god's takeover. After a grueling fight ensues:   I just looove the faces in this thing Saoshyant fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Apr 14, 2021 14:43
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 God needs a nap too, occasionally.
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Apr 14, 2021 14:53
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3D Megadoodoo posted:"Wide" as opposed to straight-and-narrow? Wideboy is British slang for a bloke who's a bit of a chancer, a diamond geezer, like.
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Apr 14, 2021 15:00
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 Sobek knows what Sobek did.
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Android Blues posted:Wideboy is British slang for a bloke who's a bit of a chancer, a diamond geezer, like. Yeah, but being wide is if you are a spiv or are gein it laldy while acting a pure belter.
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Saoshyant posted:Here's the final pages of Sobek by Stokoe, where a cult tries to have their god save their city from another god's takeover. After a grueling fight ensues: Dang, I wanted to pick this up on Comixology but it looks like it's not available digitally and with shipping it comes out to $25 CAD. Maybe I'll wait on that and grab some of his other stuff that is available on Comixology.
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Vlaphor posted:It may actually be the only adaptation his name is on as far as I know. Nope. The reason he started this was a run of terrible adaptations of his work like the film From Hell. After that and LXG (let us not call it by the comic's title) in particular where a producer talked up how much Moore loved the movie, Moore started demanding his name not be used on things.
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Apr 14, 2021 16:34
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Grendels Dad posted:Sobek knows what Sobek did. 
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Apr 14, 2021 16:39
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Random Stranger posted:Nope. The reason he started this was a run of terrible adaptations of his work like the film From Hell. After that and LXG (let us not call it by the comic's title) in particular where a producer talked up how much Moore loved the movie, Moore started demanding his name not be used on things. Have not seen From Hell, so I didn't know if his name was on it or not, but I did know that he's basically wanted nothing to do with adaptations of his work for a long time. One of the reasons I was shocked to see his name on the opening credits for that episode of JLU (didn't watch the series till years after it came out).
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According to IMDB (which can be inaccurate), he's credited on From Hell, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and the Watchmen TV show. They have him listed on the other stuff, but it's marked as "uncredited".
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Apr 14, 2021 16:45
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Saoshyant posted:But enough about Tom King's cringe.jpg This isn't the first time Stokoe's done a comic about a gigantic aquatic lizard who wrecks up a city in the process of saving it before loving off back to whatever it was doing earlier, and I'm betting it won't be the last
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It might've started with League, not so much because they made a garbage movie adaptation of it, but because they ripped off another guy's script to do it and then Moore got dragged along into court to defend himself over another person's fuckup.
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Random Stranger posted:Nope. The reason he started this was a run of terrible adaptations of his work like the film From Hell. After that and LXG (let us not call it by the comic's title) in particular where a producer talked up how much Moore loved the movie, Moore started demanding his name not be used on things. The main reason is the he was part of a lawsuit where someone claimed that they had the idea for the plot of LXG. He was basically accused of stealing the idea for the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Kwyndig posted:That would require admitting Alan Moore created Watchmen, which is something DC hates doing. I think you vastly underestimate how much of a selling point it would be to have Alan Moore's official seal of approval on those comics.
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 Mystery Men Comics #14 (1940)  The Unstoppable Wasp #1 (2018)
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davidspackage posted:It might've started with League, not so much because they made a garbage movie adaptation of it, but because they ripped off another guy's script to do it and then Moore got dragged along into court to defend himself over another person's fuckup. Yeah it started with League, From Hell was a few years before that.
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The From Hell adaptation was loving terrible
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Alhazred posted:The main reason is the he was part of a lawsuit where someone claimed that they had the idea for the plot of LXG. He was basically accused of stealing the idea for the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Not being credited doesn't protect you from that kind of lawsuit that inevitably occurs for any Hollywood production.
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Random Stranger posted:Not being credited doesn't protect you from that kind of lawsuit that inevitably occurs for any Hollywood production. Can't be sued if nobody knows you wrote the base for the adaption. 
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Vlaphor posted:Alan Moore did allow his name to be credited on the JLU episode "For The Man Who Has Everything". It's a good ep
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Random Stranger posted:Not being credited doesn't protect you from that kind of lawsuit that inevitably occurs for any Hollywood production. It wasn't about avoiding lawsuits, Moore was just really incensed that he got accused of ripping off the idea for League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and that the studio settled instead of fighting it. The only reason the claimants had a case was because all the stuff the screenwriters changed for the League script (such as throwing in Tom Sawyer) made it awfully similar to a 90s pitch for a movie called Cast of Characters. I'd love to see someone take another stab at a League movie or series, but the copyright tangle doesn't seem worth the headache.
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Kwyndig posted:That would require admitting Alan Moore created Watchmen, which is something DC hates doing. It's more Alan Moore hates admitting he created it at this point.
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