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Duck Rodgers posted:Right, but how willing are they to use these powers without the support of provincial and municipal elected officials? depends on the moh. we were just discussing peel closing schools, and there are other uses; just google ontario section 22 orders. it's not as widespread as it could be. anyway not sure about your point because i was explicitly responding to this: Duck Rodgers posted:interesting to know how much they could do without provincial government support this is how much they can do without any provincial support. whether they want to use it is a different question.
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Duck Rodgers posted:Right, but how willing are they to use these powers without the support of provincial and municipal elected officials? The issue is they don't want to look like the bad guy. It's not even just about unelected vs. elected, Mayors have been huge pussies when it comes to doing lockdowns even though they have the power. Tory said very early on that the health units have a broad range of emergency powers that could do almost any lockdown measure that the province would consider, but that he didn't think it was necessary because the province was doing a good job. He then spent the next 13 months asking the province to pretty please do a better job managing the pandemic. edit: found the article: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...-may-think.html
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I'm not trying to make a point. Just wondering how much unelected health officials are driven by the motivation to open er up vs cowed by the elected officials to fall in line. Probably we won't know until their are some autopsies and what went wrong sort of reports
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DariusLikewise posted:mayors and city councils are essentially useless when it comes to restrictions, anything they do would be instantly overridden by provincial assemblies not necessarily, london for example put in a mask mandate early on
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Starks posted:The issue is they don't want to look like the bad guy. It's not even just about unelected vs. elected, Mayors have been huge pussies when it comes to doing lockdowns even though they have the power. Tory said very early on that the health units have a broad range of emergency powers that could do almost any lockdown measure that the province would consider, but that he didn't think it was necessary because the province was doing a good job. He then spent the next 13 months asking the province to pretty please do a better job managing the pandemic. The other big issue with going out and making a stand is that someone with greater authority who makes decisions on whim goes and overrides you two hours later or perhaps the very next day. That is highly damaging to everybody except that exceedingly rare person who maybe goes and runs against them for their job in the next election and wins. I'm not sure how many states in the US have gone and passed "Hey, PS, cities, screw you and any restrictions you might try to pass" orders/laws but I think it's more than just a couple at this point. (That kind of overrule is by no means automatic, depends on the situation on the ground and electorally.)
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DariusLikewise posted:mayors and city councils are essentially useless when it comes to restrictions, anything they do would be instantly overridden by provincial assemblies the province didn’t override Toronto’s mask mandate, and I was thinking more of Tory’s power in the sense that the PHU and Devilla take their orders from him. we also saw this last week when they finally shut down schools.
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The province hasn't raised a fuss about anything individual cities do, since they're perfectly happy for the restrictions to exist so long as they aren't the ones that the public can blame for them. Ford and Lecce spent weeks talking about nothing other than how safe schools were, but didn't say a thing when local boards decided to close.
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 Chuds can stroll right out of the quarantine hotel anytime if they just pay the fee. Negligently spreading a life threatening illness would seem to be manslaughter to me but what do I know. 
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oh hell yea, the olympics are dumb as hell so you might as well look like clowns from a circus
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I demand our Canadian team march in looking like Rowsdower.
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can someone explain the paris and 1964 references
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1964 was the year we got the new flag.
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RBC posted:can someone explain the paris and 1964 references https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Ontario
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is it made by hbc or is their logo on the shoulder patch supposed to be another piece of canadiana
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i think thats supposed to be a reminder that were genocidal colonists
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RBC posted:i think thats supposed to be a reminder that were genocidal colonists how could you forget? it's a part of our heritage
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infernal machines posted:how could you forget? it's a part of our heritage James Naismith, you're #cancelled
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is that a band album cover? nobody's looking at the camera
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kansas u '99 b-ball team
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Reality Protester posted:feeling patriotic rn, might delete later Not going all-in on the full Canadian Tuxedo with matching blue jeans is a cowardly half-measure and I for one will not stand for it.
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Entropic posted:Not going all-in on the full Canadian Tuxedo with matching blue jeans is a cowardly half-measure and I for one will not stand for it. otoh if those are white denim, i think it counts
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DariusLikewise posted:oh hell yea, the olympics are dumb as hell so you might as well look like clowns from a circus
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mediaphage posted:our (treated) water comes from huron and it's great I grew up on Lake Michigan water and don't (yet) have cancer. That will probably come from the PBB laced milk or PCBs they sprayed around for like weed control or some poo poo IDK I'm no chemist.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Does it count as UK avoiding the third wave if the variant (B117) that comprises our third wave originated there and already worked its way through the population starting in December with 1K deaths per day? Grounds for removing the old lady from our money
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Entropic posted:cowardly half-measure Have you seen our collective COVID response?
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infernal machines posted:otoh if those are white denim, i think it counts nah man it's supposed to be the same shade. why did I post this
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Reality Protester posted:feeling patriotic rn, might delete later I feel like everyone's sleeping on the maple leaf tee shirt that looks like a mashup with the Batman (1989) movie logo
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batman 1989 was insanely good
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Another Bill posted:I feel like everyone's sleeping on the maple leaf tee shirt that looks like a mashup with the Batman (1989) movie logo i feel like that's trying to evoke the OVO look without paying any costly licensing fees
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Reality Protester posted:batman 1989 was insanely good It sure loving was
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A guy I know bought like 1000 dollars worth of tokyo 2020 shirts last summer thinking they would become kind of novelty collectors' item after the olympics were postponed. Turns out they are still calling it Tokyo 2020 so that they can use all the same merchandise.
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RBC posted:can someone explain the paris and 1964 references It was the last year Tokyo hosted the Olympics Reality Protester posted:1964 was the year we got the new flag.  65
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Starks posted:is it made by hbc or is their logo on the shoulder patch supposed to be another piece of canadiana Bilirubin posted:I grew up on Lake Michigan water and don't (yet) have cancer. That will probably come from the PBB laced milk or PCBs they sprayed around for like weed control or some poo poo IDK I'm no chemist. It's not the treated water that kills you, it's the ancient piping leaching lead and other fun poo poo between the water plant and your tap.
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Isizzlehorn posted:until you said this I thought it was a Jamaican reference, that makes a lot more sense that is unlikely to happen without a switch to a more acidic water source which won’t happen because lakes. of course lake acidification is also a concern but not for this so much as for you know life. in re olympics it’s my understanding they were indeed made in partnership with hbc
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