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BTW that Paul Gilbert JHS pedal is incredible. Instant Marshall about to explode tone at any volume
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I'm trying out more hendrix, mayer, etc. stuff in rocksmith which necessitates thumb over the neck type technique. What's the right way to do this? Specifically, should your palm be touching the neck? I can't really seem to fret cleanly without doing this, but I wanted to get some opinions before I practice too much. If I try to let my palm float, I have nothing for my fingers to squeeze against and my finger joints end up needing to bend the wrong way to let the weight of my arm pull the string to fret. Edit: Ha that PG video is actually touching on this obliquely. Still interested in thoughts. havelock fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Apr 14, 2021 17:26
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Gramps posted:BTW that Paul Gilbert JHS pedal is incredible. Instant Marshall about to explode tone at any volume So this got me REALLY curious sooo... I just looked up the schematic for the PG-14 and it is pretty interesting: Josh took his Haunting mids pedal, in whole, put it first then tacked on three triode (jfet) stages with Marshall coupling/voicing at the end. The tone control is a simple and effective low-pass filter. It's an incredibly well-executed evolution of his own refinements* of basic ideas. I would buy it if I wasn't now going to make my own version that I think is cooooler. 😎 *lol took years to get here, but hey!
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Apr 14, 2021 17:29
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:So this got me REALLY curious sooo... I knew there had to be something special going on with that one. It seems to have a very nice responsive feel to it, at least to my ears. It’s incredibly musical. Always tempted to grab one when I see them. The art/color palette is great too.
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Apr 14, 2021 17:42
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Any time Paul Gilbert is mentioned I feel obligated to link this video of him and Nathan East jamming over an A chord for roughly seven minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYpzAw0IiCM
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Kilometers Davis posted:I knew there had to be something special going on with that one. It seems to have a very nice responsive feel to it, at least to my ears. It’s incredibly musical. Always tempted to grab one when I see them. The art/color palette is great too. Yea it's really, really cool. What I think would be more fun: JHS Haunting Mids -> Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret. DLS* is an arguably "better" version of what JHS is doing, imo, but there's more parts for, again, arguably marginal improvement in tone. We shall see! If any of you have those two specific pedals run the Haunting mids into the DLS! *DLS is a commercial version of an old "open source" circuit called the Brown Sound in a Box 2. homewrecker posted:Any time Paul Gilbert is mentioned I feel obligated to link this video of him and Nathan East jamming over an A chord for roughly seven minutes: This is awesome thank you. Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Apr 14, 2021 17:57
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homewrecker posted:Any time Paul Gilbert is mentioned I feel obligated to link this video of him and Nathan East jamming over an A chord for roughly seven minutes: They are both having so much fun! Thanks for sharing
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Apr 14, 2021 18:09
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homewrecker posted:Any time Paul Gilbert is mentioned I feel obligated to link this video of him and Nathan East jamming over an A chord for roughly seven minutes: Did they actually sell a Fender scale SSS fireman or is that a custom?
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Apr 14, 2021 18:23
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mango sentinel posted:Did they actually sell a Fender scale SSS fireman or is that a custom? Looks like it was a custom model but apparently 50 production models were made, assuming this site is accurate: https://www.musicstore.com/en_OT/EUR/Ibanez-AS-Paul-Gilbert-Fireman-Custom-Limited-DEMO/art-GIT0024929-000
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When you guys are learning hard stuff, for instance, I'm trying to learn what I can of the Symphony of Destruction solo, specifically the part where it gets fast, and you are slowing it down to play to a metronome/drum beat, after like 10 or 15 minutes do you ever just kind of start naturally zoning out and find you start to get worse because of it? I'm thinking it might be better to break this sort of thing up into smaller frequent chunks or something. I think it's the repetitiveness of it.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:When you guys are learning hard stuff, for instance, I'm trying to learn what I can of the Symphony of Destruction solo, specifically the part where it gets fast, and you are slowing it down to play to a metronome/drum beat, after like 10 or 15 minutes do you ever just kind of start naturally zoning out and find you start to get worse because of it? I'm thinking it might be better to break this sort of thing up into smaller frequent chunks or something. I think it's the repetitiveness of it. Yes. It's only worth drilling passages until this happens, then you should stop for a while and try again later. I usually wait at least an hour before drilling a given passage again. Your hands will get tense from the repetition too. Really it's a waste of time to practice anything while zoned out, because you'll end up memorizing errors and poor technique. Muscle memory is extremely sensitive. beer gas canister fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Apr 15, 2021 |
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Apr 15, 2021 02:17
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Pretty sure I know the answer already but just to vent, does anybody else have those weeks where you're putting in the time and trying to practice things correctly but you just feel that you're getting worse and worse? And your brain keeps coming up with new and different ways to gently caress up?
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Apr 15, 2021 20:18
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How have you been sleeping lately? Been outside much since it turned pretty? Taken a couple days off since the problems started?
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Apr 15, 2021 20:29
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Mozi posted:Pretty sure I know the answer already but just to vent, does anybody else have those weeks where you're putting in the time and trying to practice things correctly but you just feel that you're getting worse and worse? And your brain keeps coming up with new and different ways to gently caress up? Just put it away for a few days/a week. It's supposed to be a satisfying thing to do.
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Apr 15, 2021 21:11
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I was going to say. Take a break. Playing guitar should be fun, not a job. Come back to it when your enthusiasm returns.
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Mozi posted:Pretty sure I know the answer already but just to vent, does anybody else have those weeks where you're putting in the time and trying to practice things correctly but you just feel that you're getting worse and worse? And your brain keeps coming up with new and different ways to gently caress up? if you are making mistakes during practice, something is going wrong. you need to be playing it perfectly during practice, even if that means going SLOOOOOOW... other posters have suggested taking a break from playing. probably a good idea, especially if the alternative is loving up during practice. don't train yourself wrong by loving up during practice! i would say to keep playing guitar, but return to your comfort zone for a little while and consolidate what you already know, before pushing yourself to learn new stuff again. BTW it's good to get in the habit of recording yourself from time to time, so you can make an honest assessment of your progress. it's hard to assess your playing in the moment!
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Hey so I only just got a new guitar like a couple weeks ago but I'm already looking at getting my next one. Is this what it is to play the guitar because it seems like a very expensive hobby if so.
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Apr 15, 2021 22:40
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Frankston posted:Hey so I only just got a new guitar like a couple weeks ago but I'm already looking at getting my next one. No. But also yes. I just learned bar chords and I already own 9 guitars and $4000 in pedals
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Mozi posted:Pretty sure I know the answer already but just to vent, does anybody else have those weeks where you're putting in the time and trying to practice things correctly but you just feel that you're getting worse and worse? And your brain keeps coming up with new and different ways to gently caress up? You are stressed, sick and or tired, most likely. I'm guessing your coordination/nerves aren't internally syncing up with the same efficiency it would if you were feeling tip-top?
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Frankston posted:Hey so I only just got a new guitar like a couple weeks ago but I'm already looking at getting my next one. It's just the easiest way to get a kick without the potential stress and self doubt of practice. Also guitars are cheaper and more visible than drat near every other instrument
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Frankston posted:Hey so I only just got a new guitar like a couple weeks ago but I'm already looking at getting my next one.
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Frankston posted:Hey so I only just got a new guitar like a couple weeks ago but I'm already looking at getting my next one. Yes, but it’s not cars level of expensive or even some other instruments’ levels of expensive. The worst expense is the space they take up. I own eight guitars, one Boss Katana 100 with footswitch, and zero pedals. I am moving from a 1000 square foot basement suite to a 600 square foot condo. I don’t know what I’m going to do with all my guitars other than put them in the living room. 
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My partner has a music degree she got on scholarship by playing French horn. Her horn is worth more than any car I've ever owned not to mention more than every guitar, amp, or pedal I have all put together. All in all guitar is a pretty cheap instrument.
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Thumposaurus posted:My partner has a music degree she got on scholarship by playing French horn. Her horn is worth more than any car I've ever owned not to mention more than every guitar, amp, or pedal I have all put together. All the french horns I'm finding are only around $5000 on the high end, what in the world have you been driving?
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Gramps posted:I have watched this a dozen times. Paul and Josh should do everything together. My favorite part is when they play basketball and the ref shows up.
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Thumposaurus posted:My partner has a music degree she got on scholarship by playing French horn. Her horn is worth more than any car I've ever owned not to mention more than every guitar, amp, or pedal I have all put together. It's actually cheaper for me to buy refurbed Noblet clarinets (bottom of the intermediate pile) than it is to get my main one repadded and tuned up. My guitars now are a 25 year old semi-hollowbody Epiphone and a 40 year old Fender Bullet Strat that I will pull apart and do whatever to in a second and then get back to recording. I think the only instruments that are as cheap for entry and beyond now are Behringer synth people.
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Helianthus Annuus posted:if you are making mistakes during practice, something is going wrong. you need to be playing it perfectly during practice, even if that means going SLOOOOOOW... Hard disagree. Playing along to a new song at full tempo, allowing yourself to gently caress it all up, is empowering and fun if you're in the right mental space. With my 2-year-old I like to play a new song for him, pull up the bass tab, then do my best to play along. Then when we do it again the following day, I'm a lot closer to it. By the fifth play through I've got the main parts nailed down with the correct feel. This sort of practice also helps my speed, forces me to relax my plucking fingers, and uses different parts of my brain compared to, say, sitting down with a metronome and drilling a particular part of a song. All I'm saying is, there are many ways to learn and get better and have fun with music. Sometimes if you're doing it wrong but staying engaged, you're doing it right.
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Preggo My Eggo! posted:Hard disagree. Playing along to a new song at full tempo, allowing yourself to gently caress it all up, is empowering and fun if you're in the right mental space. With my 2-year-old I like to play a new song for him, pull up the bass tab, then do my best to play along. Then when we do it again the following day, I'm a lot closer to it. By the fifth play through I've got the main parts nailed down with the correct feel.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:All the french horns I'm finding are only around $5000 on the high end, what in the world have you been driving?  
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GreenBuckanneer posted:All the french horns I'm finding are only around $5000 on the high end, what in the world have you been driving? Look at money bags over here buying cars less than a dozen years old But for real the most expensive car I’ve ever had was $4k so that tracks Also I’ve got 7 guitars a couple amps and a picnic basket’s worth of pedals and all of it together definitely costs less than my brother’s one student grade violin he had in high school. I think the combo of modern cheap rear end guitars plus getting a way bigger variety of sounds with different guitars/pedals compared to different violins/tubas/etc encourages a bigger collection
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Yeah classical instruments are stupid expensive. My step brother played an upright bass and my parents definitely just rented it. A professional musician friend of mine has a bassoon that cost like stupid money, as much as 20k or more if I recall.
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Preggo My Eggo! posted:Hard disagree. Playing along to a new song at full tempo, allowing yourself to gently caress it all up, is empowering and fun if you're in the right mental space. With my 2-year-old I like to play a new song for him, pull up the bass tab, then do my best to play along. Then when we do it again the following day, I'm a lot closer to it. By the fifth play through I've got the main parts nailed down with the correct feel. I know it's against the go slow and speed it up method a lot of people use, but this is always how I learn songs. I start out real bad at tempo, and my brain just seems to auto-correct everything over time until I am playing dead on eventually. Of course I'm sitting here with a crippled hand from trying to brute force something way above my level so it's probably terrible. 
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havelock posted:I'm trying out more hendrix, mayer, etc. stuff in rocksmith which necessitates thumb over the neck type technique. What's the right way to do this? Specifically, should your palm be touching the neck? I can't really seem to fret cleanly without doing this, but I wanted to get some opinions before I practice too much. If I try to let my palm float, I have nothing for my fingers to squeeze against and my finger joints end up needing to bend the wrong way to let the weight of my arm pull the string to fret. I fret with the bone at the first joint, and keep the rest of my hand free. Like the fretting contact is the anchor and my hand moves freely around that. I can drone on the note my thumb is fretting and play scales or w/e comfortably with my other fingers. Below:  Above:  Fingers in place: 
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Stringent posted:I fret with the bone at the first joint, and keep the rest of my hand free. Like the fretting contact is the anchor and my hand moves freely around that. I can drone on the note my thumb is fretting and play scales or w/e comfortably with my other fingers. Thanks! Can you play chords this way? I've figured out that I can play something like 5x7650 Just fine with my palm not touching by squeezing at the thumb and the first joint of my pointer, but once I try to fret anything on the high e I have to glue my palm to the neck (and thus bend my wrist weirdly) to get enough leverage Eg 7x9877 / 7x9777
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havelock posted:Thanks! move your index finger higher, it can basically be touching your thumb *edit* you should pretty much be barring the top two strings the same way you would in a regular barre chord, just one joint off because your thumb has the bass note. like this, but without the white joints: 
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Wowporn posted:Look at money bags over here buying cars less than a dozen years old google says a student violin is about $100-400, roughly the cost of one good guitar depending on what you go for, I guess I'm confused at how cheap you're getting your guitar supplies 
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The difference between a student violin and a "decent" violin is like comparing a First Act accoustic to a Martin D28 with few real options in between.
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Most classical instruments you can basically buy an instrument-shaped toy for a couple of hundred or something actually playable for three times the price. Accessible classical instruments are tough to get hold of if you aren't lucky enough to be at a school with a decent accessible music program. My friend does a lot of brass workshops in schools and he's a big fan of the PBone, which is a perfectly usable plastic trombone for a tenth of the price of a normal starter one. I believe they do a range of PTrumpets and PCornets now. This should probably be in the SMS thread, but here's him doing a demo of one anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCMc6HPWLS0
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darkwasthenight posted:PCornets now ah poo poo
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