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Preggo My Eggo! posted:Hard disagree. Playing along to a new song at full tempo, allowing yourself to gently caress it all up, is empowering and fun if you're in the right mental space. With my 2-year-old I like to play a new song for him, pull up the bass tab, then do my best to play along. Then when we do it again the following day, I'm a lot closer to it. By the fifth play through I've got the main parts nailed down with the correct feel. don't you remember what it's like to be a beginner? if you're mastering a new song after 5 play-throughs, maybe you're at a level where you don't really need practice to achieve those goals! and by practice, i mean focusing on learning to do something you couldn't do before. when you're pushing you limits like this, its easy to form bad habits or learn something you'll have to unlearn later.
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Lester Shy posted:Those plastic instruments are cool as hell. Like all fat kids, I played the tuba in the school band, and I would've liked to keep up with it, but there's no way in hell I was gonna spend the $3k-$10k it costs to do so. It always bummed me out, because in my school all the less-advantaged kids got shuffled into large brass (and percussion), because they wanted to make music but couldn't afford their own instruments, which all the trumpet/flue/clarinet/sax/bone kids were expected to do. So while I still have my trumpet in the closet and pull it out now and again, all those tuba/bari/fhorn kids just graduated and never had a chance to make another peep. Even the really good ones who were interested in pursuing music in college steered away from it because they knew the expense of school was going to be plenty without also needing to find a semi-pro instrument to play.
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Apr 16, 2021 20:07
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there's no skill level you can reach where you suddenly don't have to practice. also saying you should only practice something 'perfectly' is pretty misguided, there's no such thing as playing something perfectly. you can always improve your technique. and there are plenty of techniques that are literally impossible to do accurately the first time you sit down, that you can only achieve by building over time
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Apr 16, 2021 20:18
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Stringent posted:move your index finger higher, it can basically be touching your thumb Oh duh. When I was doing 5x7655 I was only putting my pointer on the B and E strings, rather than laying it across 3 or 4 or 5 of em and using a lower joint on the pointer. I'll go try this after work, thanks.
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Helianthus Annuus posted:don't you remember what it's like to be a beginner? if you're mastering a new song after 5 play-throughs, maybe you're at a level where you don't really need practice to achieve those goals! My goal I suppose is to have fun and trust that I'll get better over time. Definitely when I was more of a beginner there would be more dedicated practicing on specific techniques, shapes, etc but the amount of time spent on that has declined while my total playing time has remained steady.
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Apr 16, 2021 20:34
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mango sentinel posted:The difference between a student violin and a "decent" violin is like comparing a First Act accoustic to a Martin D28 with few real options in between. I saw a video of a youtuber playing a $100 guitar and $10,000 guitar and honestly the $100 guitar sounded fine. There was a difference, but I'm not sure the difference was worth $9,900 more dollars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDA9iw4po1c
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Apr 16, 2021 20:46
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Whoever suggested the plexi-m puzzle-- thanks!
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Apr 16, 2021 21:30
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I saw a video of a youtuber playing a $100 guitar and $10,000 guitar and honestly the $100 guitar sounded fine. There was a difference, but I'm not sure the difference was worth $9,900 more dollars This is true of guitars, especially electrics, but not so for other instruments. Especially bowed strings instruments.
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beer gas canister posted:This is true of guitars, especially electrics, but not so for other instruments. Especially bowed strings instruments. Yeah there are a few notable breakpoints for electrics where you can get notable bumps in quality but it's pretty flat overall. For acoustic guitars and other stringed instruments, every dollar your spend is gonna be a better instrument because materials and construction quality have a much bigger effect on the sound. It's also easier to understand outside of youtube audio quality. In person, the difference between a $100 student violin and a $2000 workman quality one is staggering, and that's before you get into centuries old models with wood tempered by the Little Ice Age. Same thing with brass instruments.
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Apr 16, 2021 21:42
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I'm sure there is, but to a degree it's all beside the point: I'd play with the best instrument I can afford and if I'm dead set on playing with a $200 violin, unless I'm yo yo ma with platinum awards or something, I'll still be using a $200 violin or whatever comparable other instrument
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Apr 16, 2021 21:47
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the thing with electrics is that generally the amp is going to be doing the work that the body of an acoustic would be doing, so that's where you start seeing more immediately favorable returns on higher end items. acoustics the entirity of the sound is coming from the body itself, so all the intricacies of construction are much more important
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Today in wiggle bar news: Ironically this seems to have actually improved the tuning stability. I have no idea either but it's a pleasant experience. Didn't add as much weight as I'd feared either. I've been a bit unhappy with the bridge pickup sound being really dull, but got my Boss ME80 back from loan this afternoon and it sounds fantastic through the Clean models on that so perhaps it just doesn't get on with my preamp. What's the flagship multi Boss do these days? I quite like the COSM on the ME80 so wouldn't mind something more up to date for recording.
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Apr 16, 2021 22:08
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm sure there is, but to a degree it's all beside the point: I'd play with the best instrument I can afford and if I'm dead set on playing with a $200 violin, unless I'm yo yo ma with platinum awards or something, I'll still be using a $200 violin or whatever comparable other instrument I mean if you're only playing in your bedroom who cares. My point is you can easily gig a Squier, but you're unlikely to find much work with a student violin.
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Apr 16, 2021 22:09
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Sweaty IT Nerd posted:Whoever suggested the plexi-m puzzle-- thanks! I remember talking about this being the Carl Martin Plexitone hell yeah that's awesome it scratched the itch.
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:there's no skill level you can reach where you suddenly don't have to practice. also saying you should only practice something 'perfectly' is pretty misguided, there's no such thing as playing something perfectly. you can always improve your technique. and there are plenty of techniques that are literally impossible to do accurately the first time you sit down, that you can only achieve by building over time oh man -- why the gently caress did i use the word "perfect"? it's completely obscuring the point i was trying to make. here, let me clarify: the post i had replied to initially was describing a situation where a poster was putting in lots of practice time, but making more and more mistakes. i advise that poster (and anyone in a similar situation) to change what they're doing! slow it down so you can get it right. or switch to practicing something more attainable until you're ready to work on the thing that is too hard right now. or just take a break from practicing. whatever you do, don't keep practicing the mistakes!
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Apr 16, 2021 23:41
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Ngl when I heard someone playing one of those toy instrument looking $99 epiphone single coil guitars it made me really want one cause the pickups are so brash sounding
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Apr 16, 2021 23:43
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Preggo My Eggo! posted:My goal I suppose is to have fun and trust that I'll get better over time. Definitely when I was more of a beginner there would be more dedicated practicing on specific techniques, shapes, etc but the amount of time spent on that has declined while my total playing time has remained steady. cool. i think im separating practice time from playing time in a way that isn't generally accepted. practice means really focusing in improving in a systematic way. that's not to say you can't improve by just playing, but its not as fast or as consistent. i'm in the same boat as you though. i play WAY more than i practice.
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Helianthus Annuus posted:cool. i think im separating practice time from playing time in a way that isn't generally accepted. practice means really focusing in improving in a systematic way. It’s important to think about what your goals are- plenty of songs have been, and still are, written and performed by people with a limited skillset or understanding. Plenty of important and good songs have been written by people with a beginner-level competency or intermediate-level and so on. Likewise, you shouldn’t let your current skill level prevent you from writing songs or improvising or feeling like you could write a song or have your playing on a song. Hell, all of Sonic Youth’s best poo poo is just them banging their guitars on the ground and whatnot. But a lot of players reach a point where they play or noodle more at a specific competency level and just kinda stay there or fail to branch out or develop as quickly as they otherwise could because they replace “practicing” with “playing”, if that makes sense. It’s important to know why you’re choosing to play or practice and to be intentional, so as to avoid falling in the procrastination trap of only doing the thing you’re comfortable with or find enjoyable in order to low-key avoid the discomfort of failing or struggling with something that intimidates you. It’s like the whole “ten years of experience’ vs ‘the same year of experience done ten times” aphorism trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Apr 16, 2021 |
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mango sentinel posted:I mean if you're only playing in your bedroom who cares. My point is you can easily gig a Squier, but you're unlikely to find much work with a student violin. I mean, I guess so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSpNIjzoGT4 There's an obvious difference in the cheap one sounds squeakier, but even the 10k isn't an appreciable difference and while I could still pick out the cheap one in the blind test, if you're playing on a stage with other music going on, I doubt anyone is going to notice
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So what's the deal with telecaster bridges? What's the purpose of the huge chunk of metal? Why don't other guitars feature a similar chunk of metal? I like having it there, the lip works as a reference point to rest my palm against when not muting any strings, but otherwise what's it for?
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:I remember talking about this being the Carl Martin Plexitone hell yeah that's awesome it scratched the itch. It really does. A little delay and you're right in the 80s.
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ColdPie posted:So what's the deal with telecaster bridges? What's the purpose of the huge chunk of metal? Why don't other guitars feature a similar chunk of metal? I like having it there, the lip works as a reference point to rest my palm against when not muting any strings, but otherwise what's it for? It helps it make that good bwang bwang bwang sound
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ColdPie posted:So what's the deal with telecaster bridges? What's the purpose of the huge chunk of metal? Why don't other guitars feature a similar chunk of metal? I like having it there, the lip works as a reference point to rest my palm against when not muting any strings, but otherwise what's it for? Was originally sold with a cover and the whole enclosure was supposed to shield the bridge pickup from electrical interference and focus the magnetic resonance. Everyone took the cover off and would just use it as an ash tray since it didn't really do anything and mostly got in the way. It's now generally accepted the base plate interacts with the coil in a way that contributes some to the tele twang.
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Life goal: get "that good bwang bwang bwang sound" laser etched into my tele bridge.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I mean, I guess so: the other players will notice. if you're playing in an orchestra and your instrument is a squeeling mess it is going to throw off the other players. not to mention the playability issues entailed with playing a cheap violin. Even if you manage to make the orchestra auditioning with a $50 violin, certainly possible if your technique is really solid (or you're Itzhak Perlman), there's still absolutely no way the conductor would allow you to actually perform on it.
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:the other players will notice. if you're playing in an orchestra and your instrument is a squeeling mess it is going to throw off the other players. not to mention the playability issues entailed with playing a cheap violin. Even if you manage to make the orchestra auditioning with a $50 violin, certainly possible if your technique is really solid (or you're Itzhak Perlman), there's still absolutely no way the conductor would allow you to actually perform on it. I am not sure how good the instruments I had back in band class in HS, and maybe you try to make this a dig at me or something but I played the drums exclusively back then. When we were bopping the timpani, or playing a drum riff or xylophone, you don't really pick up anything else unless someone's gone completely off key. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsxzIbSD_wY This has four different levels and the only one I got right was the cheapest and the most expensive (and truth be told, it was only more of a giveaway because the most expensive one happened to be the most visually worn in, and the cheapest was "scratchier"). In any case, this is all moot because I'm 32 now and I haven't really doubled down and started playing instruments since HS and I'm not going to play in an orchestra, and at most I might try to do some band stuff or just direct record music and throw it on soundcloud/youtube/bandcamp or w/e
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Apr 17, 2021 03:00
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I did it, I paid money for Reaper
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:there's no skill level you can reach where you suddenly don't have to practice. also saying you should only practice something 'perfectly' is pretty misguided, there's no such thing as playing something perfectly. you can always improve your technique. and there are plenty of techniques that are literally impossible to do accurately the first time you sit down, that you can only achieve by building over time You can also lose skills if you don't practice. For example, if I go a while without playing I lose some of my endurance when playing super fast. But after a few days of practice it will come back to normal.
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It's gonna be a while, but like the guy last page, I'm already thinking of what my next guitar is going to be. I would like a really nice one, what guitars would you guys say are the best in the 1000-1200 dollar range for metal, if the main thing I'm looking at is just overall quality/playability? Are Solar guitars overpriced for what they are? Because I really like how some of them look. A lot of people like them, but since a popular youtuber owns them there could be a lot of bias there which makes me a bit cautious. I don't want to pay 1200 bucks for a guitar that's more like a 600 dollar one.
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My picking hand is always “ahead,” developmentally, versus my fretting hand. This makes a certain sense if your picking hand is your dominant hand, I suppose. It’s frustrating because I can pick out patterns that my note-makers just can’t keep up with.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:It's gonna be a while, but like the guy last page, I'm already thinking of what my next guitar is going to be. I would like a really nice one, what guitars would you guys say are the best in the 1000-1200 dollar range for metal, if the main thing I'm looking at is just overall quality/playability? Are Solar guitars overpriced for what they are? Because I really like how some of them look. A lot of people like them, but since a popular youtuber owns them there could be a lot of bias there which makes me a bit cautious. I don't want to pay 1200 bucks for a guitar that's more like a 600 dollar one. Past 600 to 800 there's a lot of diminishing returns. At that point you have good pickups and good components (bridge/tuners/etc) so past 600 you're paying for branding or aesthetics. If you really want a $1200 guitar go for it but they're not really worth it in my opinion. Good news is that things are going to be returning to normal soon and you'll be able to go to a guitar store again and really try out guitars for yourself. Spanish Manlove fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Apr 17, 2021 |
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Apr 17, 2021 19:26
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$1200 is like four Affinity Telecasters plus aftermarket pickups and finishing kit for each of them or five Affinity Telecasters if you like them how they are stock
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Spanish Manlove posted:Past 600 to 800 there's a lot of diminishing returns. At that point you have good pickups and good components (bridge/tuners/etc) so past 600 you're paying for branding or aesthetics. Ah, I wasn't sure where that point was, I always heard the diminishing return point as being around 1K dollars, so that's where I got that figure from. There's a cool looking used Charvel for around 450 at my local music store I might try out, but it might get scooped up by the time I can actually justify buying another guitar.
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Apr 17, 2021 19:46
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Anything from the WMI factory in Korea is usually a solid deal and you can usually nab a used Ibanez prestige or older MIJ one for a song.
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Ok Comboomer posted:$1200 is like four Affinity Telecasters plus aftermarket pickups and finishing kit for each of them Or it's three contemporary active squiers https://www.musiciansfriend.com/gui...0active&index=3 A starcaster would be pretty fun for death metal https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/StarCAIBM--squier-contemporary-active-starcaster-ice-blue-metallic
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Apr 17, 2021 19:53
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Just got the Katana 50. Holy poo poo.
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Drunk Driver Dad posted:Ah, I wasn't sure where that point was, I always heard the diminishing return point as being around 1K dollars, so that's where I got that figure from. There's a cool looking used Charvel for around 450 at my local music store I might try out, but it might get scooped up by the time I can actually justify buying another guitar. there’s a good crop of <$1k shredder guitars out there. Ppl here have posted about a bunch of them
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So it's been about a week and half and I'm just not getting it. I don't know how to tell my teacher. Precisely picking and strumming DUDU is just not how my brain works. Maybe I'm not meant to play guitar. 
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Travic posted:So it's been about a week and half and I'm just not getting it. I don't know how to tell my teacher. Precisely picking and strumming DUDU is just not how my brain works. What's the problem? Too boring or you can't get your hands to cooperate or what? e: buck up in either case. A week and a half is nothing.
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I'm also interested in the Solar guitars for a baritone because I think they look cool, but also don't want to pay $300 markup vs a comparable Ibanez just because it's coming from a youtube guy.
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