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Me, on my deathbed: I wish i had taken fewer sick days.
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Apr 17, 2021 04:23
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Cloks posted:Using your benefits isn't stealing. The employer taking those sick days away is stealing.
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Apr 17, 2021 04:48
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TotalLossBrain posted:The employer taking those sick days away is stealing. 
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Apr 17, 2021 04:49
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To be fair, I've heard company flaks say out loud that they were looking to find ways to disincentivize people from using all of their sick or vacation days. So I don't think it hurts to repeat that using your benefits is not stealing.
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Apr 17, 2021 05:40
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Volmarias posted:
When the banked sick days were done away with, I was in a fairly fortunate position, having already burned through all of mine, after blowing out my back. The replacement sick day system isn't terrible, and we get 5 "Whatever" PTO days each year, for things like moving days, funerals, jury duty, etc. As much as I could go on for days about the dumb poo poo, I have better reasons to stay. I make a lot more than is average for my job title. I am also very good at what I do. The biggest thing though, is that I (mostly) enjoy what I do. That's the Best Job For Me trifecta. Having all 3 of those things means I have a fraction of the problems that the rest of society has with their jobs.
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Apr 17, 2021 06:09
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The Zombie Guy posted:When the banked sick days were done away with, I was in a fairly fortunate position, having already burned through all of mine, after blowing out my back. The replacement sick day system isn't terrible, and we get 5 "Whatever" PTO days each year, for things like moving days, funerals, jury duty, etc. Sure, but be careful not to forget that you work for thieves who will steal from you apparently just because they can .
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Apr 17, 2021 06:40
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In Japan there is government pressure to take your vacation days and in at least one multi-day sequence so my HR sends very panicky emails starting around august telling people to take a loving 3 day time off and use at least 5 days for the year but preferably all of them.
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Apr 17, 2021 07:11
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How many do you get in Japan? E: also sick days still infuriate and confuse me. What happens if you run out because you're seriously ill? Do you just get fired? Or is the company showing goodwill and just not paying you?
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Apr 17, 2021 07:28
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Three sick days usually.
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Apr 17, 2021 07:36
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Ya'll work at some companies that remind of the old thread title from the corporate thread title in BFC: I'm quitting to fulfill my dream of not working here
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Apr 17, 2021 07:56
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TotalLossBrain posted:You know what's the best combo? It's magical
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Apr 17, 2021 08:58
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zedprime posted:Company values are amazing entertainment. This entertainment is the best reason to work for a Fortune 500. It's fun in medium sized businesses watching them cargo cult something that was inane to start with. One of previous VPs spent the better part of a week crafting a mission statement for an IT department.
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Apr 17, 2021 14:38
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:
A job talking about fun is like bright colors on a frog, a sure sign that it’s incredibly toxic and you should stay the gently caress away. I’ve had fun jobs but any job that says “have fun” is guaranteed to be a loving nightmare.
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Apr 17, 2021 16:00
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Social distancing is becoming a distant memory in my kitchen. Gone are those heady days leading up to Thanksgiving, when managers were running from station to station, literally begging people to spread out. I saw seven guys crammed into the same twenty square foot area just to put meatloaf on trays this morning. Vaccines were made available to us and I know a lot of us got them, but I can only imagine the insane Facebook anti-vax nonsense that some of these guys have in their brains. Management is WFH as much as they can get away with, of course.
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Apr 17, 2021 17:03
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AHH F/UGH posted:Three sick days usually. Goddamn. I get 14 days sick and 28 days of vacation.
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Apr 17, 2021 18:06
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I normally roll my eyes at ice breakers but yesterday my manager's team meeting started out with "zoom meeting bingo" and it was seriously legitimately funny (at least to me) "Sorry I was on mute" "Are you sharing your screen?" "Dog barking in the background" (this is me every time lol) "Could you repeat the question? I was multi-tasking" "I don't see the link to the screen share" and a bunch of others
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Apr 17, 2021 18:09
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Son of Rodney posted:How many do you get in Japan? I think the logic is" people get sick, and usually about X days a year, so we'll pay for that, but we can't afford to pay for people to be permanently sick, so there's a limit". What to do after that limit gets hit is up to the company/laws/union.
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Apr 17, 2021 18:19
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Inzombiac posted:Goddamn. I get three sick days at my current US pretty-okay job and that's fine. If I had to use more than three (I've never used a sick day so I don't know) I could just dip into my vacation days, or more likely my boss will just give me the day off and I just won't clock in. In Japan it was the same. I never used any sick days but for the people who did and needed more, you'd just call and cancel all your poo poo for the day and they just don't pay you.
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Apr 17, 2021 18:26
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I get a week of paid “whatever” time for sick/personal absences, but I blew through most of it on side effects getting vaccinated. It’s frustrating because my job does two weeks of paid leave for people who get the virus or are a close contact of someone who did, and some people have done that like three times. It’s a good thing they’re doing the leave, but drat guys, can’t spare me three days of PTO to get the vaccine?
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Apr 17, 2021 18:30
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Inzombiac posted:Goddamn. I get 10 sick days but you get a warning after 5 used in a rolling 12 month period. First is an oral, then a written, so on and so on. BUT: My workplace has a system where all discipline wears off and is automatically expunged from your file 12 months after it happens, making it theoretically possible to time sick leave in such a way that I can get an oral warning or a written warning every so often with no further consequences multiple times a year because before you get the next step the sick out from 12 months ago falls off your record. hosed up colossally? 12 months later never happened.
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Apr 17, 2021 19:22
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BitBasher posted:I get 10 sick days but you get a warning after 5 used in a rolling 12 month period. First is an oral, then a written, so on and so on. I'm confused. You get 10 sick days in 12 months but you're repremanded for using more than 5 in 12 months?
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Apr 17, 2021 19:43
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Volmarias posted:I'm confused. You get 10 sick days in 12 months but you're repremanded for using more than 5 in 12 months? 
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Apr 17, 2021 19:45
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Volmarias posted:I'm confused. You get 10 sick days in 12 months but you're repremanded for using more than 5 in 12 months? That is my understanding as well. And I can say it is most likely real for them as that is what a place I used to work at used to do as well. We started getting warnings after three and the only way to avoid it was to give a sick notice 48 hours in advance.
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Apr 17, 2021 19:46
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I've seen that before and generally it's pretty lax, as in if someone clearly got some kind of serious illness or broke a leg or something then they don't say poo poo if you use all 10 or more. It's only when the same underperforming people are always sick on Friday and Monday with no real justification that the warnings actually start to come out. Is it weird, deceptive and kind of lame? Yeah. But then again so are the vast majority of people in the world.
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Apr 17, 2021 19:54
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On the subject of corporate values nonsense, the company I work for produced this masterpiece last year. See how long it takes you to work out what we actually do. https://youtu.be/I8F7GZnERNU Blockchain! Picture 20 filth covered sailors being dragged onto the bridge to be made to watch this so we could be inspired by our corporate vision.
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Apr 17, 2021 21:38
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Mr Teatime posted:On the subject of corporate values nonsense, the company I work for produced this masterpiece last year. See how long it takes you to work out what we actually do.  Feels like your corporate office has gotten lost at sea
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Apr 17, 2021 22:27
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Lmao, my workplace had also announced we were gonna get into some blockchain bullshit as some sort of rewards program, but they were like "WE CAN'T CALL IT A CRYPTOCURRENCY 'CAUSE THERE'S TAX poo poo AND LAWS INVOLVED WITH THAT."
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Apr 17, 2021 22:31
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We get unlimited sick days but we’re generally shamed if we take any so it’s more of a fake benefit
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Apr 17, 2021 22:44
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vyst posted:We get unlimited sick days but we’re generally shamed if we take any so it’s more of a fake benefit Yeah that’s the trick with unlimited sick time or PTO. They bait you in as if it’s some great benefit but anecdotes from friends tell me they wind up taking less time off than they would if it was a set amount of hours because it’s discouraged.
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Apr 17, 2021 22:54
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We get "unlimited sick days within reason" so about once every forty-five days I just take a sick day. Everyone usually just e-mails the day of and says, "I feel crappy enough that I think I should rest" and nobody questions it.
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Apr 17, 2021 22:55
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I've got unlimited sick days, but on the basis of "Just don't come in if you're sick, we don't want you giving us germs. If you feel bad enough to not come in you should probably just not work from home either." Given that your performance reviews are based on what you've done the whole quarter / half / whatever, it's not unreasonable to expect employees to only call out when they're actually sick, since they'll still need to get the work done.
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Apr 17, 2021 23:00
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Tetramin posted:Yeah that’s the trick with unlimited sick time or PTO. They bait you in as if it’s some great benefit but anecdotes from friends tell me they wind up taking less time off than they would if it was a set amount of hours because it’s discouraged. Yep, studies have shown people take less PTO/sick time when it’s unlimited for exactly that reason. I used to work for a place with no sick days. It was a modular home company. They would give you a “perfect attendance” day if you did 90 straight days without being even a minute late once. Someone in the factory there got norovirus and came in sick because of that. He ended up barfing so hard he poo poo his pants into a toilet that hadn’t been connected (since it was just a box, the house obviously hadn’t been hooked up to the foundation and plumbing at the site). Within the week 180 of the 200 employees ended up missing at least one day.
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Apr 19, 2021 00:25
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Mr Teatime posted:On the subject of corporate values nonsense, the company I work for produced this masterpiece last year. See how long it takes you to work out what we actually do. "You may have noticed that we all love to be together" From that level of vomit inducing brainwashing, I'm guessing - subsidiary of Sea Org?
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Apr 19, 2021 04:53
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TheBlackVegetable posted:"You may have noticed that we all love to be together" I'm only tangentially aware of who Maersk is, but I think they're legit; one of the largest over-the-ocean shipping companies in the world or something. I'm also only tangentially aware of who Sea Org is thanks to this forum, but my impression of them is a floating clown show (at best)
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Apr 19, 2021 05:02
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Zarin posted:I'm also only tangentially aware of who Sea Org is thanks to this forum, but my impression of them is a floating clown show (at best) Pennywise more than Mr Boffo.
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Apr 19, 2021 05:35
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Atopian posted:Pennywise more than Mr Boffo. Boffo...deez nuts?
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Apr 19, 2021 10:50
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I just know from being in the navy they’re one of if not the the largest shipping and merchant fleets in the world Who are they even advertising too? It’s like Siemens or Raytheon making consumer ads, we’re not their customers anyway.
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Apr 19, 2021 12:33
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I have seen Raytheon ads to the public in local newspapers, but that was because they had a factory in town and wanted to keep everyone on side. Not marketing products, obviously, just the brand.
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Apr 19, 2021 13:07
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goatface posted:I have seen Raytheon ads to the public in local newspapers, but that was because they had a factory in town and wanted to keep everyone on side. Not marketing products, obviously, just the brand. With all things, it comes down to budgets. If you have a marketing budget and can't possibly spend it on glossy line cards and paid articles in Newsweek, you dump money into dumb poo poo like TV, internet and radio ads. I can still remember when GE's turbine division started running ads about their super awesome gas and steam turbine product lines in front of YouTube videos and being super confused why they would be trying to sell people on things they couldn't afford in a lifetime. Or have any use for.
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