Taerkar posted:

Digging and filling up ditches: Fake Economy
Blowing up foreigners with bombs: Real Economy.

"Wikipedia posted:

By August 2013, Congress had allocated $181 million for buying parts and upgrading Abrams systems to mitigate industrial base risks and sustain development and production capability. Congress and General Dynamics were criticized for redirecting money to keep production lines open and accused of "forcing the Army to buy tanks it didn't need."

In December 2014, Congress again allocated $120 million, against the wishes of the Army, for Abrams upgrades including improving gas mileage by integrating an auxiliary power unit (APU) to decrease idle time fuel consumption and upgrading the tank's sights and sensors.

borkencode posted:

Grimdude posted:

If only there were some easy way to never have to hear this again. Oh well.

Medullah posted:

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Edit: I have actually had a person say that massive government spending of the new deal did nothing but the even larger massive government spending of WW2 did everything. It is crazy out there sometimes.

borkencode posted:

Grimdude posted:

There's just something about the arrogant/smug tone of conservative memes that hits extra hard. Like they're so goddamn wrong about almost everything but boy do they sure act like condescending geniuses anyway.

BiggerBoat posted:

Conservative's idea of what's funny is pretty brutal. Conservative "comedy" is almost always stereotypes, racist, slapstick or some fish out of water thing combining all three. And, man, is it ever ALWAYS dated.

The idea that something used to be considered funny but no longer is flies in the face of their ideology since anything that was ever good (or perceived that way), is automatically always good and things would be better if poo poo was still that same way.

Basically "change is scary therefore it is bad".

BiggerBoat posted:

Conservative's idea of what's funny is pretty brutal. Conservative "comedy" is almost always stereotypes, racist, slapstick or some fish out of water thing combining all three. And, man, is it ever ALWAYS dated.

The idea that something used to be considered funny but no longer is flies in the face of their ideology since anything that was ever good (or perceived that way), is automatically always good and things would be better if poo poo was still that same way.

Basically "change is scary therefore it is bad".

Wikipedia posted:

• Conspiracy Corner - segments where a guest presents generally accepted information about a topic, and that information is treated as far-fetched by the host, who holds stereotypical left-wing views.
  
• Guy White: Closet Conservative — a cartoon featuring a conservative man working in an office in which everyone else is a liberal caricature.
  
• Hollywood Helping Humanity — satirical public service announcements featuring actors endorsing dubious causes, such as recycling breast implants. Actors appearing in this sketch include Leyla Milani, Ken Davitian, Ian Ziering, and Lorenzo Lamas.
  
• I'm the ACLU — satirical advertisements "boasting" of controversial causes supported by the ACLU.
  
• Presidential Addresses — Radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh had a recurring cameo role as the President, with conservative pundit Ann Coulter as his Vice President.
  

the_steve posted:

Conservative comedy centers around punching down.
It's bullying.

DarkHorse posted:

BiggerBoat posted:

Not always. You can punch down and still be funny if the joke is clever, subverts expectations and hits the timing. Or if just isn't just outright cruel just for the sake of it like "asian people sure talk funny, emiright?" and "man, that sure seems gay". HAHAHAHA.

It's a delicate balance and hard to pull off but I don't think it's enough of an explanation to say that "conservative comedy sucks because it punches down" and I hear that said a lot. I make jokes that "punch down" on rednecks like a motherfucker sometimes. A joke just has to be...I dunno...intelligent I guess...which I think is the larger problem with what we're talking about.

BiggerBoat posted:

Conservative's idea of what's funny is pretty brutal. Conservative "comedy" is almost always stereotypes, racist, slapstick or some fish out of water thing combining all three. And, man, is it ever ALWAYS dated.

The idea that something used to be considered funny but no longer is flies in the face of their ideology since anything that was ever good (or perceived that way), is automatically always good and things would be better if poo poo was still that same way.

Basically "change is scary therefore it is bad".

Taerkar posted:

Conservatism, especially modern conservatism, is at its root all about things being right the way that they are. Any change to that means that those things were not right but instead were wrong, and they cannot STAND being wrong. So obviously they're still right and you're wrong.

Over time they've become more and more wrong because our views and understanding of numerous matters have changed, so they've got decades (if not centuries of more) of sunk cost fallacies keeping them from changing.

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I believe that the mass shootings are caused by lack of respect and Discipline. What do you expect when people don’t want to work and believe they are entitled to everything. Too many will take unemployment rather than a job. Have you ever heard anyone say they would rather live on unemployment rather than a low paying job? I hear it more and more.

Medullah posted:

DarkHorse posted:

What if they shoot you before they say a word or you have a chance to respond? Like how child Tamir Rice got shot for playing with a toy gun in an open carry state? Or philando Castile got shot for his legal concealed carry? Or Breonna Taylor shot in her own home while asleep? Or...

And now I made myself sad

Medullah posted:

quote:

I believe that the mass shootings are caused by lack of respect and Discipline. What do you expect when people don’t want to work and believe they are entitled to everything. Too many will take unemployment rather than a job. Have you ever heard anyone say they would rather live on unemployment rather than a low paying job? I hear it more and more.

Medullah posted:

Medullah posted:

jivjov posted:

Why do they think "resisting arrest" causes the officer to die?

Medullah posted:

"People need to understand that if they see a police officer they should immediately lay down on the ground with their hands behind their backs. After all, if they did nothing wrong, they've got nothing to worry about. And they should also not associate with criminals, even if they're related. The important thing to remember is to 100% obey the police even if you believe they're in the wrong. Compliance is key. Now, I have to go buy another gun in case the government tries to oppress me!"

DarkHorse posted:

But what if they give conflicting instructions, like one officer says "freeze!" and another says "show your hands!" and another "on the ground now!"

Medullah posted:

"People need to understand that if they see a police officer they should immediately lay down on the ground with their hands behind their backs.

Twelve by Pies posted:

This shouldn't surprise you but there was, in fact, a man who was shot by the police while lying down on the ground, though he had his hands in the air rather than behind his back so I guess that was what he did wrong (the man was Charles Kinsey, he was shot in the leg and he survived).

Twelve by Pies posted:

This shouldn't surprise you but there was, in fact, a man who was shot by the police while lying down on the ground, though he had his hands in the air rather than behind his back so I guess that was what he did wrong (the man was Charles Kinsey, he was shot in the leg and he survived).