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the show runners had absolutely no idea what they were doing but they hired good professionals initially who all read the books to know what they were supposed to be doing. once they ran out of books they had no idea what to do and how the vague plot points GRRM had scribbled down are foreshadowed or how they’d work. like, I bet bran on the throne, Sansa ruling the north, Jaime doing a full 360 and running back to Cersei, Danny going nuts and so on were from GRRM and all can be built to.
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PostNouveau posted:GoT had an easy layup in front of them and botched it so bad. The only thing the fans wanted to see was like Jon Snow and Dany overthrow Cersei and kill the zombies. Dany going beserk had been built up for literal decades.
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^^^they canceled the one they'd picked with Naomi Watts, so now they're going back to the well of like 5 pilots they ordered and I think moving forward with more than one of them.Cpt_Obvious posted:Dany going beserk had been built up for literal decades. Yeah in the books Oh the show, meh, not especially hobbesmaster posted:the show runners had absolutely no idea what they were doing but they hired good professionals initially who all read the books to know what they were supposed to be doing. Yeah you can see him going in those directions in the book.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Dany going beserk had been built up for literal decades. Yea What she did to King's Landing wasn't really even the most brutal thing she did to people she views as appeasers and collaborators during the course of the show PostNouveau posted:Yeah in the books all the crucifixions were a hint they spent an entire season establishing she was a lovely, terrible ruler who put her personal politics, friends (and pets!) above the people she was ruling, and it still took everybody by surprise when she "heel turned" and killed a bunch of civilians Dany was an antihero, we loved her because she was an underdog and people missed her flaws because they were invested in her arc. Mirthless has issued a correction as of 00:34 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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lumpentroll posted:
All of the bad men are simultaneously Bernie Sanders, their Dad, and that guy that ghosted them who they totally don't think about and was probably a huge sexist..
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galenanorth posted:https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-04-16/garland-rescinds-trump-era-restrictions-on-federal-investigations-of-police-departments Oh man yeah this changes everything
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lumpentroll posted:
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galenanorth posted:https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-04-16/garland-rescinds-trump-era-restrictions-on-federal-investigations-of-police-departments All those investigations that ended in convictions and reforms lol
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Eggplant Squire posted:GRR Martin is never finishing those books so the TV show writers should have just ended it how the fans wanted and dared him to do anything about it. I have seen in this forum, in any number of discussion articles, and just in talking with other people numerous fan-fictions for the 8th season that would have been more logical and satisfying that what we got. Like its not hard to just imagine an ending that would be at least mediocre. Something that at least delivered on all the promises and closed all of the threads from the previous 7 seasons. Season 8 was so bad, that it feels like it couldn't be just from apathy. Like, it seems like it was maliciously, intentionally bad. My recommendation for anyone who hasn't seen GoT or wants to rewatch it is to stop at the end of season 6. Sure, seasons 4-6 were kind of Meh, but they set up the end game perfectly. Danaerys is victorious in the east, has her army, navy, and dragons, and is coming to Westeros. Cerci has eliminated all of her foes in south, but potentially at grave cost. Sansa has secured power in the North. Brandon knows the secret of Jon Snow. Winter is here and the Night King marches south. Its all set up perfectly. Imagine the final scenario yourself and be happy. Its kind of like the Matrix. Either pretend there were no sequels or pretend that there was no third movie and fan-fiction yourself a better ending.
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Lol fox crying about inflation you morons that's what you want in capitalism
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There was a very good article I read about how the GoT ending was excellent if you read it that Dany didn't Go Nuts but that's just what monarchy is really like
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Gendry should have been king He even got legitimized by Dany right near the end, making him the only remaining heir of KING Robert! Perfect setup for a twist putting a common-born smith prentice on the throne Gendry stammers, "B-b-but I don't know HOW to run a kingdom! Isn't there some way we could have the people govern themselves somehow?" Sam looks directly at the camera, "actually I've read a few books discussing the idea..." Iris out on Tormund marrying a bear This is of course the  compromise ending since it's too late for the brotherhood without banners to kill all the noblemen but I would have wanted them to make Gendry king too
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the most succ part of the GoT ending is that they stabbed the Global Warning metaphor with the magic sword and it all went away
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Atrocious Joe posted:the most succ part of the GoT ending is that they stabbed the Global Warning metaphor with the magic sword and it all went away
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Atrocious Joe posted:the most succ part of the GoT ending is that they stabbed the Global Warning metaphor with the magic sword and it all went away I guarantee that’s what GRRM is stuck on and hence d&d were left completely on their own.
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Granted, it wasn’t just Season 8 but everything since towards the end of Season 5. Stannis setting his daughter on fire specifically. You could tell they had no idea what to do with the characters or their motivations. That is also when Tyrion started to get progressively more dimwitted. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 01:05 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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Sorry about the GoT derail. Good points all around though. I just thought season 8 was super drawn out, slow, and boring. I got the metaphor for Obama's drone program though.
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loquacius posted:Gendry should have been king Right after the finale Dan Olson tweeted an alternate ending with text displaying the fates of characters that the show never revealed and for Gendry it was something like "Gendry went to Storm's End claiming to be lord of it, he was beaten up and left to die in a ditch by Stannis loyalists" Fake edit - found it: https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1130581319593783296?s=20
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Chillgamesh posted:I'm really struggling to think of another situation where a finale was so bad it retroactively ruined the entire franchise. I had friends who were utterly obsessed superfans, who refuse to even talk about the series any more in disgust over Season 8. Not even out of a sense of betrayal over Daenerys's heel turn - it was more over how absolutely dogshit terrible the entire season was. Every single character was rock loving stupid and nothing they did made any sense. It was a goddamn parade of idiotic nonsense with every single scene being dumber than the last. every star wars movie after the empire strikes back ruins the franchise in new and exciting ways each time
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I definitely remember nobody giving a single gently caress about game of thrones after the last season. It just disappeared immediately.
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hobbesmaster posted:I guarantee that’s what GRRM is stuck on and hence d&d were left completely on their own. spoilers fatty: global warming wins
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Il Federale posted:every star wars movie after the empire strikes back ruins the franchise in new and exciting ways each time The prequels were good though.
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All of it is bad, just less bad in retrospect. At least with the prequels, Lucas was trying to do something different. It came out third baked but it at least was an attempt. The third Matrix movie specifically is a blur.
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Organ Fiend posted:I have seen in this forum, in any number of discussion articles, and just in talking with other people numerous fan-fictions for the 8th season that would have been more logical and satisfying that what we got. Like its not hard to just imagine an ending that would be at least mediocre. Something that at least delivered on all the promises and closed all of the threads from the previous 7 seasons. Season 8 was so bad, that it feels like it couldn't be just from apathy. Like, it seems like it was maliciously, intentionally bad. Yeah I checked out of the show when it started going off what I considered the rails (the affirmationed Stanis setting his daughter on fire being part of that) but I didn't begrudge it or whatever. I did have a bunch of friends that were still invested and it was pretty funny hearing about what a train wreck the last season was. Eggplant Squire has issued a correction as of 01:28 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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"i drink and know things"-Hillary Clinton
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Peter Daou Zen posted:"i drink"-Hillary Clinton
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WampaLord posted:Right after the finale Dan Olson tweeted an alternate ending with text displaying the fates of characters that the show never revealed and for Gendry it was something like "Gendry went to Storm's End claiming to be lord of it, he was beaten up and left to die in a ditch by Stannis loyalists" This is what finally canceled those guys for me, gently caress this 
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Ardennes posted:All of it is bad, just less bad in retrospect. At least with the prequels, Lucas was trying to do something different. It came out third baked but it at least was an attempt. the prequels are actually really funny, it’s unfortunate the sequels don’t even seem to work at that level because the main cast did everything they could with what they were given
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Dixon Chisholm posted:Isn't the uk really weird about defamation and it means you printed true bad things about someone? yep and deepak is extremely litigious about being called a crank
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Nichael posted:there will be no opportunity like 2016 or 2020 again for at least eight to twelve years. thanks bernie for really giving it your all! yep time to hunker down or get out while you still can folks
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hobbesmaster posted:the prequels are actually really funny, it’s unfortunate the sequels don’t even seem to work at that level because the main cast did everything they could with what they were given Also, Lucas is clearly both an incompetent director and editor. At best should have thrown some ideas down for the script and should have allowed professionals to do the heavy lifting.
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Ardennes posted:Also, Lucas is clearly both an incompetent director and editor. At best should have thrown some ideas down for the script and should have allowed professionals to do the heavy lifting. he wanted Spielberg, Zemeckis, or Richie Cunningham to direct Phantom Menace but they turned it down so then it was just him and the yes men at Lucasfilm left
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