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Just got Nioh 2 and the amount of spreadsheety stuff and different mechanics feels a little overwhelming
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Apr 15, 2021 07:03
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it's pretty overboard but just remember that - you can respec your skill points for cheap - you can respec your levelups for cheap - you get proficiency with weapons extremely quickly later on - on the first playthrough you will outlevel and replace your gear very quickly - you can change your appearance anytime in other words: You're not locked into anything, so no need to agonize over making the "correct" choice. you can always change it later.
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Apr 15, 2021 07:23
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:it's pretty overboard but just remember that Oh thank god
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Apr 15, 2021 08:43
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And to pass on a tip I got and appreciated: Until you get to NG+ there's no equipment that you need to save for later. Just sell it or dismantle it or offer it. And you also don't need to care about crafting until NG+
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Apr 15, 2021 09:11
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Captainicus posted:Slightly more specifically: Alright thanks. Also what is the titles boost thingy? Should just I dump all my points right away? I don't know if I should keep them or what. And what is up with the abilities, I can't seem to do any of the sword abilities even though I press the correct buttons. Only one I can see is the y execute one which is just a animation when you press y.
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Apr 15, 2021 12:10
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Yeah spend the title points, it's another thing you can respec later if you want. You need to go to the "assign abilities" menu to enable most of your abilities. Or is it "customise skills"? Something like that
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Apr 15, 2021 12:20
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Abilities should auto-equip if it's the first one you've earned for that slot. Many of them are stance-exclusive though so make sure you're in the right stance.
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Apr 15, 2021 12:32
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Ulio posted:Also what is the titles boost thingy? Should just I dump all my points right away? I don't know if I should keep them or what. And what is up with the abilities, I can't seem to do any of the sword abilities even though I press the correct buttons. Only one I can see is the y execute one which is just a animation when you press y. Title boosts eventually (after many many hours of play) become really significant, but you can respec them for cheap as they said. I like to pick 3 that I don't get any points in at all, and max the others. A lot of the abilities you get are things that aren't immediately obvious that you are using them, and they will say something like "strong attack after a light attack". These are essentially combo finishers, essentially what they do is make it so instead of your moveset being limited to X, X, X, you have access to X, X, X, Y. If there's a specific action you can't seem to get to work, just say what it is specifically and we can tell you how to make it happen. Once you're familiar with the way it describes inputs, it'll click and you'll understand all of them.
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Apr 15, 2021 13:49
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Qwertycoatl posted:And to pass on a tip I got and appreciated: Until you get to NG+ there's no equipment that you need to save for later. Just sell it or dismantle it or offer it. And you also don't need to care about crafting until NG+ Absolutely. Don't soul match equipment until divine gear starts dropping.
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Apr 15, 2021 15:17
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Qwertycoatl posted:And to pass on a tip I got and appreciated: Until you get to NG+ there's no equipment that you need to save for later. Just sell it or dismantle it or offer it. And you also don't need to care about crafting until NG+ But what about inheritable traits you wanna keep 
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Apr 15, 2021 15:44
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Tarezax posted:Abilities should auto-equip if it's the first one you've earned for that slot. Many of them are stance-exclusive though so make sure you're in the right stance. Ya looks like the first one and I have right stance/weapon. Qwertycoatl posted:Yeah spend the title points, it's another thing you can respec later if you want. Is this in the menu or shrines? In shrines I could assign jutsu/magic.
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Apr 15, 2021 16:00
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Might be talking about the "Allow certain attacks to do more damage/have an element, based on stat", like much of the Samurai tree.
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Apr 15, 2021 16:15
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Ulio posted:Is this in the menu or shrines? In shrines I could assign jutsu/magic. In the menu. It's one of the options alongside inventory/titles/etc
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Apr 15, 2021 16:47
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:Expeditions continue to be buggy in spite of the patch. Just had another instance of a mission where NPCs in general completely bug out for me (and only me), where if I try to talk to someone, either they simply twitch and their dialogue doesn't trigger or I get completely stuck and unable to do anything at all, not even open a menu. the only way we've found to fix this is for my teammate to slide me away into the water to kill me. I don't know about the black screen part, but we were able to get out of it in co-op by causing the other person to flinch with Straight Punch or Chest Slap emotes. Hopefully that'll work if it comes up again?
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Apr 15, 2021 20:37
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Qwertycoatl posted:In the menu. It's one of the options alongside inventory/titles/etc Ok it was all assigned, I am stupid I was using a Odachi all along but upgrading skills for sword. I just thought the giant sword was a katana for some dumb reason. I was so deadset on using Katana but was playing with Odachi the last 5 hours lol, feels like this game will have lots of replay value.
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Apr 15, 2021 23:07
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Ulio posted:Ok it was all assigned, I am stupid I was using a Odachi all along but upgrading skills for sword. I just thought the giant sword was a katana for some dumb reason. I was so deadset on using Katana but was playing with Odachi the last 5 hours lol, feels like this game will have lots of replay value. Well yes and no. With 5 difficulty levels and being able to change everything about your character at any time, there's no reason to actually start a new game ever, just respec and keep on truckin'. Morter posted:Might be talking about the "Allow certain attacks to do more damage/have an element, based on stat", like much of the Samurai tree. That was one of the last things I figured out how to do  After you buy one of those skills, you have to go over to your individual weapon setup screen and select an attack that has a little circle icon next to it, then hit Square(?) to open yet another menu where you can pick from the skills you've unlocked what to apply to that particular move. I never really use any of them except for Masterful Slice to further buff big ki damage moves, and all of the Damage+ based on <stat> since all of my stats are equal I get a decent boost from all of them. The elemental ones were nice early game, but now if I want a fire sword I just equip one of the 20 I already have in storage. Stuff like Poison or Paralysis seems like they would almost never proc since they're only applied to one move, are any of the other skills particularly useful?
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Apr 16, 2021 00:38
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In Nioh 2, putting a status effect on the ki pulse skill with fists could be useful, since you can do it constantly after every single other attack you do.
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Apr 16, 2021 03:16
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Schubalts posted:In Nioh 2, putting a status effect on the ki pulse skill with fists could be useful, since you can do it constantly after every single other attack you do. IIRC, can't you only apply one skill on one stance? So like in order to cover all 3 you'd have to apply 3 separate skills?
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Apr 16, 2021 03:31
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Morter posted:IIRC, can't you only apply one skill on one stance? So like in order to cover all 3 you'd have to apply 3 separate skills? I just checked, Rising Gale does have the circle indicator that it can have a skill assigned to it, so yeah you should be able to put a different one on each stance, and elemental or poison might be a good fit for those since you can use them so often. In other news, I happened across this old anime clip which looks real familiar when I think back to the final fight of DLC1. I know this whole game is based on Japanese mythology but it's still neat to see how many references they cram into the maps and combat, down to jumping around on fence posts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Abj9_M-hM
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Apr 16, 2021 09:08
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So I just finished Otakemaru for the first time, using mostly odachi medium/heavy armor (mostly whatever set bonuses I could get while sticking under 70% and 200 toughness). Not really sure what to do next, wandered into the opening mission on way of the strong and got thrashed pretty hard. Should I bother with the cups for bonus drop rate? What’s the deal with the stone of the penitent? Should I do the dlc first?
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Apr 17, 2021 14:13
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Stone of Penance will lock away the chosen accessory, until you defeat enough enemies on the difficulty you picked. Completing the stone will upgrade the accessory's level, with a chance of upgrading its rarity. Increasing the + on the stone will make enemies stronger, but will increase drop rates and increase the chance of rarity upgrading the accessory. You can jump straight into the DLC, it's balanced for every difficulty. Defeating revenants in the DLC should get you up to par for Dream of the Strong.
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Apr 17, 2021 14:38
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If you want to be even super min-maxy about things, you actually unlock an entirely new tier of gear in NG+++ (Dream of the Wise) that makes divines obsolete. The only place that gear actually starts becoming something you need to care about is approximately then as well (enemies get a poo poo ton of health, cursed bosses start to appear, etc). The DLC actually rules and has some good to great bosses (looking at you, Vergil from devil may cry) and actually interesting level design so I'd say hop in it right away. The only thing that sucks about the dlc is the loving birds. You will know when you get to them. The cursed one outside the final boss door of the final dlc was harder than the boss itself. Operant fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Apr 17, 2021 |
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Apr 17, 2021 14:49
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Schubalts posted:.You can jump straight into the DLC, it's balanced for every difficulty.
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Apr 17, 2021 16:24
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Morter posted:Wait a second. I've been doing the dlc on the initial NG. Are you doing i should've been doing it from the start of NG+??? Nah, you can't do that right away. You have to unlock them by clearing enough of the non-DLC missions in each difficulty, the same way you have to reopen the main map regions/chapters. Jumping in right after finishing the NG story will set you up nicely for continuing NG+.
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Apr 17, 2021 17:23
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Which is nice, because gently caress it was not that way in the first game. I vividly remember starting the first mission of that immediately after finishing my first playthrough, thinking to myself "man, this is rough, but I'm making steady progress" only to get to the boss door and get one-hit-kill chainstomped by Date Shigazane over and over until I gave up and did Way of the Strong long enough to get +2/+3s in every slot, then went back and did it. It was tough but fair from that point (I didn't go back to Strong until finishing all the DLC). Contrast to this game, where I just pulled up to the 3rd story mission of DLC 2. The balance coming directly from NG is much better this time around.
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Apr 17, 2021 18:57
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playing nioh 2 in multiplayer as opposed to nioh 1 in singleplayer has probably been a big part of it, but nioh 2's curve has definitely felt a lot smoother. we just finished the first DLC and so far there haven't been any huge spikes like the warrior of the west duel in 1. I could tell the DLC would be a lot tougher than the main game in singleplayer though. it was the first time in some time we came pretty close to running out of revives. Yoshitsune's spirit going "yeah sorry he's still kind of a jabroni" if he gets downed and you revive him was pretty good.
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Apr 17, 2021 19:56
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Does dodging actually have invincibility frames? I'm trying to fight the first boss the way I would a Souls one but he just catches me with attacks every time I dodge.
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Apr 18, 2021 05:10
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Joan posted:Does dodging actually have invincibility frames? I'm trying to fight the first boss the way I would a Souls one but he just catches me with attacks every time I dodge.
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Apr 18, 2021 05:27
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Revenants were the jump start I needed to get cruising in way of the strong. Once I had green gear it’s smooth sailing
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Apr 18, 2021 13:00
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Joan posted:Does dodging actually have invincibility frames? I'm trying to fight the first boss the way I would a Souls one but he just catches me with attacks every time I dodge. Rolling is good but you can block a lot more than you think. If you're wearing very heavy armor you want to block instead of rolling as well.
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Apr 18, 2021 19:03
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Heavy armored blocking man is my favourite way to play these games, I really like how different it can feel when you do different kinds of fights in heavy compared to light. Except Yorimitsu randomly having ki damage through the roof despite just using a sword 
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Apr 18, 2021 19:09
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Man Umi Bozu was tough without lighting up the bonfires. It's devious that the devs placed the boss gate so early on, I didn't explore the eastern part of the map to light the 2 other bonfires, I thought I could explore it after I finished the boss. I didn't even realize you could use the fire from the bonfire until my 2nd run on the mission.
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Apr 19, 2021 03:39
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nothing can interrupt this man's vibe https://i.imgur.com/kthY3Py.mp4
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Apr 20, 2021 06:55
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*teleports behind you* Nothing personal ki*teleports behind you* Nothing perso*teleports behind you* Nothin*teleports behind you*
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Apr 20, 2021 09:12
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Still loving Nioh 1, 2 things I noticed though every npc loses their sword on average at least twice, every level is at night or slightly dark ambiguous time.
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Apr 21, 2021 00:02
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Are revenants slanted toward the weapons used by players in the expedition or are fists, glaives and staffs just very popular? Fists are so common they must be 1 in 3 of the weapons I see on revenants. Glaives are second. A fair number of staffs, swords, dual swords and greatswords. very few axes or tonfas.
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Apr 23, 2021 16:41
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Granted, fists are among the newest weapons in the series, so they got that enticing new-gear smell also they're so fun.
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Apr 23, 2021 18:26
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:Are revenants slanted toward the weapons used by players in the expedition or are fists, glaives and staffs just very popular? They are just very popular. Fists are also the newest weapon and easily the most powerful weapon in the game. I'm surprised they haven't been nerfed yet(or give every weapon some / massive buffs to bring them up to fist tier  )
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Apr 23, 2021 19:49
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I've been using hatchets, are they really that bad? I'm 14 levels underleveled for a mission in world 3 and it's kicking my rear end. maybe time to try fists.
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Apr 23, 2021 20:27
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The biggest problem with Axe is the lack of skill variety.
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