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raditts posted:Wasn't the version of BD1 we got in the US actually the second revision, where they added some extra features and plot hooks? Maybe they'll do that again this time before making a direct sequel, and maybe the plot will make sense after that. BD1 in the West was the second revision of that game. A lot of stuff was added for the Western release, although it was mainly quality of life stuff. So for example, the Japanese didn't have the encounter slider. Bravely Second was also the second revision of that game. In the second version side quest plots were changed. Basically in the original Bravely Second if you beat an Asterisk then your characters would be sad about the decision they made and this would be true regardless of which Asterisk you chose. It was only when you played through a second time that they'd end up happy with their choices. Japanese players hated that so in the Western release, when you beat an Asterisk your party immediately gets the happy end.
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 10:23 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 18:07 |
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Octopath’s modified version of essentially the same system flows so much better it’s crazy. Still holding out hope for an Octopath 2: Now With Better Connected Stories.
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 13:27 |
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Bussamove posted:Octopath’s modified version of essentially the same system flows so much better it’s crazy. Still holding out hope for an Octopath 2: Now With Better Connected Stories. Aren't they busy making Triangle Tactics Ogre (WHich I am also super psyched for)
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 13:33 |
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Octopath 2 should just do the FFIX thing of having clusters of stories it flits between that gradually pull together until the entire party is united at the midpoint, the 8 separate narratives with 8 separate progression paths didn't really bring anything to the table and constrained the game's story and structure heavily and if they're not going to let you do a load of freeform jank stuff like a Saga game they may as well tack closer to a traditional JRPG structure
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 13:38 |
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I quite liked my time with BD2. Didn't leave me with a lot to think about besides the intricacies of the battle system but that's more than what the average jrpg leaves me with. Honestly if it had more post-game content I'd be pretty happy overall, I would have loved to have more boss fights and maybe a few extra dungeons that were designed with the assumption that you unlocked the extra job levels. Srice fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Apr 19, 2021 |
# ? Apr 19, 2021 13:44 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Aren't they busy making Triangle Tactics Ogre (WHich I am also super psyched for) Yes. The demo fight was fun with the battlefield effects (a thing TO had to a much lesser extent too) and the story will probably be better when you're taking part from the beginning and not several acts in. I just hope it's not a railroad progression and you actually can run around like in FFT/TO to find side stories, hidden characters, and so on like in those games.
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 14:48 |
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I'm at chapter 5 and the game is just OK. The characters and writing aren't grabbing me at all. Rimedhal is the only really interesting area and the dungeon design is tedious in general. The sidequest design is so loving tedious and reminds me of Xenoblade 2 where the developers seem to determined to piss off their audience. Its annoying padding at best. The battle system carries the game but finding Godspeed Strike has really made the rest of it less important. I still think the games technical issues really drag it down too - the frequent and overlong loads, odd hitching/lag in the interface and etc. What are some broken magic combinations I can fart around with? Right now nothing touches Godspeed Strike. I have a character who trash clears with full force, sky high and some other stuff but for bosses it seems like nothing beats Godspeed Strike.
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 15:29 |
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Almost nothing approaches Godspeed Strike until wayyyyyyyy later. Magic in particular is difficult to work with until endgame. One thing to shoot for is once you get two jobs focused around status ailments later, one of which you may already have. In general, status ailments are powerful since they work on more things than you’d expect, but are also very hard to land. Might be worth trying to figure out what you can do with them right now, but they’ll be easier to work with once you get the above jobs.
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 15:57 |
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Srice posted:I quite liked my time with BD2. Didn't leave me with a lot to think about besides the intricacies of the battle system but that's more than what the average jrpg leaves me with. Same. I’d love some postgame dungeons. Now that I have all these cool abilities and ultimate weapons, there’s no one to use it on but refights. Across the Board Ninefold Flurry is doing a great job of wrecking the portal fights. I just wanna get all the ultimate weapons.
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 22:39 |
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Lol did this game make a foot fetish joke?
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# ? Apr 20, 2021 05:16 |
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Does high wind apply solid stance to jump? I want to run my Edna with sword master/dragoon and bp subjob saver, surpassing power, critical flow, who dares wins, and idk maybe crit amp or multitask
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# ? Apr 22, 2021 18:00 |
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AverySpecialfriend posted:Does high wind apply solid stance to jump? I want to run my Edna with sword master/dragoon and bp subjob saver, surpassing power, critical flow, who dares wins, and idk maybe crit amp or multitask It doesn't seem like it does, since Solid Stance specifically wants the Attack command but I don't know for sure. Another skill that can be combined with Highwind and Jump is Berserker's Indiscriminate Rage, which allows the Jump to damage all enemies, if you're interested in that sort of thing.
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# ? Apr 22, 2021 18:21 |
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Salastine posted:It doesn't seem like it does, since Solid Stance specifically wants the Attack command but I don't know for sure. Another skill that can be combined with Highwind and Jump is Berserker's Indiscriminate Rage, which allows the Jump to damage all enemies, if you're interested in that sort of thing. Yeah I do that for mobs but looking for single target dps. highwind says anything that affects attacks also affects jumps so idk
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# ? Apr 22, 2021 18:29 |
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AverySpecialfriend posted:Yeah I do that for mobs but looking for single target dps. highwind says anything that affects attacks also affects jumps so idk I just did some light testing and it seems like Highwind and Solid Stance don't work together, which is a shame. I suppose the game views the "Attack command" and "regular attacks" to be separate things. Salastine fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Apr 22, 2021 |
# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:33 |
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I'm finished with this game and it was pretty unsatisfying. It feels like there are huge sections of content missing, I don't know if this is a pandemic thing or not. It seems like the game entirely lacks a true post-game section or dungeon. This felt like a 6/10 for me. You finally get the last asterisk and use it against all of two things. The story really peters out into nonsense and the characterization was threadbare despite a significant play clock. The job system and variety it entailed was really the high point of the game but I never felt like I got to really go nuts with it. The halls of tribulations felt really lazily thrown together but were the only significant challenge in the game. Grinding them for a bit of gear that you never get to use anywhere is pointless though. It's a shame because the systems and mechanics came together in fun ways but you didn't get to do much with them. I guess there is new game plus though I'm not sure I want to bother. The game had a lot of technical annoyances that really detracted from the experience for me too, I probably ran up 4 hours of staring at that stupid loading lantern by the end. The high points of the game to me were the music, world design was solid and the job system. I will also credit them for attempting to give the characters a bit of inter-party banter in the party chats, something that was glaringly missing from most of Octopath unless you really sought it out.
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# ? May 5, 2021 14:47 |
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This game is p ok 5 hours in, but wtf is with undead + healing vulnerability? I just cured a demon thats supposed to be weak to white magic and it healed him? What am I doing wrong how do I weaponize the healing magic
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# ? May 20, 2021 12:41 |
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Demons aren’t undead. They have to be classified as Undead.
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# ? May 20, 2021 12:43 |
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The eyeglass says weak to [white magic icon] so what are they weak to?
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# ? May 20, 2021 12:48 |
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black.lion posted:The eyeglass says weak to [white magic icon] so what are they weak to? Light. There are like only two jobs that have access to that element, and they're relatively late.
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# ? May 20, 2021 15:29 |
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black.lion posted:The eyeglass says weak to [white magic icon] so what are they weak to? Capture some Petunia's. They cast banishra when released. It's the strongest light magic attack you will get for quite a while. It's also extremely useful vs many enemies and bosses and the bosses you are fighting will die to two of them.
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# ? May 20, 2021 15:49 |
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black.lion posted:The eyeglass says weak to [white magic icon] so what are they weak to? Healing spells are classed as light magic (which is distinct from white magic), but only undead enemies are weak against healing spells specifically.
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# ? May 20, 2021 17:00 |
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Light. There are like only two jobs that have access to that element, and they're relatively late. Painter is chapter 2.
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# ? May 20, 2021 18:28 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Painter is chapter 2. The very end of chapter 2.
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# ? May 20, 2021 18:49 |
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:The very end of chapter 2. Thats still very far from late even relatively. Its the halfway point of getting jobs.
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# ? May 20, 2021 20:26 |
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I noticed I had a bunch of exp and JP scrolls in my inventory. Did I pick those up from the exploration mechanic and just didnt know it because I didnt pay attention? :p it came in big handy against a boss just now.
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# ? May 23, 2021 03:41 |
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I said come in! posted:I noticed I had a bunch of exp and JP scrolls in my inventory. Did I pick those up from the exploration mechanic and just didnt know it because I didnt pay attention? :p it came in big handy against a boss just now. You can also get them from stealing. You can get a lot of things from stealing, up to and including stat boosting items. This is also true for enemy drops, and there is at least one way to make enemies drop rare loot more often.
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# ? May 23, 2021 03:47 |
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:The very end of chapter 2. You can get access to light element attacks in chapter 1, as previously mentioned. Sure in the prelude (and before getting the ch1 job) it's annoying but not having immediate access to all elements isn't a new thing in RPGs.
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# ? May 24, 2021 02:45 |
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This just released on Steam and someone wrote a Steam review of the technical differences. https://steamcommunity.com/id/Xbob42/recommended/1446650/ quote:This is just a quick tech comparison to the Switch version for those curious, not an actual "review":
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# ? Sep 3, 2021 03:11 |
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Hey, who wants to listen to someone talk for three hours about Bravely Second? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6h66VXVhOo
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# ? Sep 10, 2021 02:10 |
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Thinking of buying this. Is the general consensus it's a good buy? The OP is from pre-release days. For the record I enjoy JRPGs.
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 04:52 |
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LiterallyATomato posted:Thinking of buying this. Is the general consensus it's a good buy? The OP is from pre-release days. I liked it just fine. Have you played any other games in the series? If so, you'll probably enjoy it, but it's a little more by the numbers than previous games in the series.
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 05:27 |
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I played this and now I’m thinking of getting FF5
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 05:27 |
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https://twitter.com/bdff_official/status/1478896894009298951?s=21 More games forthcoming!
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 16:28 |
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LiterallyATomato posted:Thinking of buying this. Is the general consensus it's a good buy? The OP is from pre-release days. It's fine. Don't play on hard. I didn't like it but that's because it's a big step back from its predecessors.
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 16:39 |
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Schwarzwald posted:Hey, who wants to listen to someone talk for three hours about Bravely Second? not gonna watch this but Bravely Second is the best one in the series
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 16:57 |
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LiterallyATomato posted:Thinking of buying this. Is the general consensus it's a good buy? The OP is from pre-release days. I think the general consensus is it starts really good and interesting and fun and by the end is a bit of a chore to finish Probably not the best jrpg to buy if you have others you’re waiting on I guess but I’d give it a solid 7/10 (big FF5 fan)
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 17:07 |
I would've enjoyed BD2 a lot more if not for the serious issues with optimization on the Switch. There's no reason load times needed to be this long and the framerate drops bug me.
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 17:10 |
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I feel the same way, but so many switch owners don't seem to care, which is frustrating
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 18:09 |
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it's on pc tho but thanks for the 2.5 hr video on bravely second I do love listening to people talk about videogames
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# ? Jan 6, 2022 18:14 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 18:07 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I think the general consensus is it starts really good and interesting and fun and by the end is a bit of a chore to finish I agree with this, I didn't hate it but the way it fails to deliver on almost anything interesting plotwise is pretty disappointing. If the appeal of FF-ish job system games is to see how badly you can break the game, this is easily the most breakable of the bravely games by far.
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