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skooma512 posted:It is such a bad idea to give the public this crap unless it's basically perfect. Drivers will think autopilot will mean they no longer need to give a poo poo, when they already barely give a poo poo as it is. People will not be paying enough attention to take over from the autopilot, or not be able to react fast enough even if they are, or won't know where the autopilot stops and they're supposed to begin. Even with aircraft, everyone is trained, ATC controls traffic, and there's hardly to hit up there at cruise. Weirdly enough all the other manufacturers' systems that do basically the same poo poo as Tesla don't have this problem. Maybe it's because marketing it as Pilot Assist, Super Cruise, etc. instead of loving FULL SELF DRIVING AUTOPILOT doesn't give people the impression that you can jerk off in the back seat while the car drives for you.
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Laterite posted:Can't wait for the annual covid boosters to run at $500 a pop The hilarious thing about people upset about vaccines because of big pharma is that the business incentive is absolutely pointed towards *not* eradicating diseases through vaccines but instead having people get sick and needing much more expensive treatment instead. Though yeah, having the entire population need a yearly re-up rather than making something more effective for longer/permanent coverage and/or completely eradicating the disease is also an excellent business model. Either way, I maintain that eradicating diseases is easily humanity's peak achievement and capitalism disincentivizes us to do this literally because it is too beneficial for humanity as a group rather than a small subset of humanity. Totally acceptable ideology lol.
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Orange Devil posted:The hilarious thing about people upset about vaccines because of big pharma is that the business incentive is absolutely pointed towards *not* eradicating diseases through vaccines but instead having people get sick and needing much more expensive treatment instead. Though yeah, having the entire population need a yearly re-up rather than making something more effective for longer/permanent coverage and/or completely eradicating the disease is also an excellent business model. All the existing (out of patent) vaccines are so un-profitable the government basically has to beg and subsidize their manufacture so I'm sure the pharma corps are all very excited they finally get a bunch of new patent ground out of this
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The Oldest Man posted:Weirdly enough all the other manufacturers' systems that do basically the same poo poo as Tesla don't have this problem. Maybe it's because marketing it as Pilot Assist, Super Cruise, etc. instead of loving FULL SELF DRIVING AUTOPILOT doesn't give people the impression that you can jerk off in the back seat while the car drives for you. There are multiple people on pornhub with the gimmick of loving in their self driving tesla. Because the public doesn't deserve nice things
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Len posted:There are multiple people on pornhub with the gimmick of loving in their self driving tesla. Because the public doesn't deserve nice things I read this wrong and thought it was people loving their teslas, which is worrying because I wasn't surprised
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blatman posted:I read this wrong and thought it was people loving their teslas, which is worrying because I wasn't surprised How can you gently caress a Tesla? It has no exhaust pipe.
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Inceltown posted:How can you gently caress a Tesla? It has no exhaust pipe. The answer will shock you.
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Inceltown posted:How can you gently caress a Tesla? It has no exhaust pipe. Do they have gear shifts? Because let me tell you
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KozmoNaut posted:The answer will shock you. Doctors hate it!
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Don’t sell me a self driving car unless it works flawlessly 100% of the time. I wanna be able to sleep in my car while driving, not watch the road like I already have to do.
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Inceltown posted:How can you gently caress a Tesla? It has no exhaust pipe. https://twitter.com/tesla_master/status/1380622139447865346
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The Oldest Man posted:Weirdly enough all the other manufacturers' systems that do basically the same poo poo as Tesla don't have this problem. Maybe it's because marketing it as Pilot Assist, Super Cruise, etc. instead of loving FULL SELF DRIVING AUTOPILOT doesn't give people the impression that you can jerk off in the back seat while the car drives for you. I saw some star wars tie-in commercial that featured a mom racing alongside an x-wing, engaging the driver assist, then taking her hands off the wheel as the car jumped to lightspeed. They might've named it something less idiotic than autopilot, but they're embracing the concept in spirit.
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blatman posted:I read this wrong and thought it was people loving their teslas, which is worrying because I wasn't surprised I think you have to go to Clips4Sale for that
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I would think food retailers would have an incentive towards making EBT/SNAP expanded and easier to use, since it's more money for them if people go to their store for these kinds of things. I had noticed 7-11 added food items that could be purchased via EBT and assumed that was the reason they started offering them in the first place. The stupid claim of welfare recipients using food stamps for lobster never made sense to me because if they blow their budget on a single lobster then they have no money for food the rest of the month, in which case what loving difference does it make if it's spent on lobster or a bunch of other random stuff, the total amount of welfare money is the same. It's not like EBT is letting you get X items regardless of cost here. Not only that, but from a capitalistic perspective EBT should be a good thing, since it's more money buying products some company is trying to sell. Shaming and legislating people out of food stamps doesn't just hurt them, it also hurts the people trying to sell these products as well. I thought conservatives liked giving government handouts to support small businesses lol.
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Panfilo posted:I would think food retailers would have an incentive towards making EBT/SNAP expanded and easier to use, since it's more money for them if people go to their store for these kinds of things. I had noticed 7-11 added food items that could be purchased via EBT and assumed that was the reason they started offering them in the first place. It is a good thing and food stamps return like $1.50 for every $1 spent back into the economy, maybe more? It has by far the best return on the investment (for everyone) and no real downside other than everyone can't get some food money
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Panfilo posted:I would think food retailers would have an incentive towards making EBT/SNAP expanded and easier to use, since it's more money for them if people go to their store for these kinds of things. I had noticed 7-11 added food items that could be purchased via EBT and assumed that was the reason they started offering them in the first place. The only thing conservatives like more than helping rich people is hurting poor people, and that will almost always win out regardless of the amount of lobbying. I'd think the "hurting poor people" thing would get them more votes too, nobody's gonna vote for you if you announce you gave $20 billion to Chase Bank or whatever, but they will if you proudly announce that you've made your state's unemployment benefits so incredibly hard to access that virtually nobody's able to get them.
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The Nastier Nate posted:Don’t sell me a self driving car unless it works flawlessly 100% of the time. the russians used a train
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open biden
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Panfilo posted:The stupid claim of welfare recipients using food stamps for lobster never made sense to me because if they blow their budget on a single lobster then they have no money for food the rest of the month, in which case what loving difference does it make if it's spent on lobster or a bunch of other random stuff, the total amount of welfare money is the same. well the argument is more “they don’t actually need food stamps if they’re just using government handouts to buy luxury items. if you actually needed SNAP you wouldn’t buy a lobster because that’d still mean you go hungry at some point so what use is food assistance money anyway”
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indigi posted:well the argument is more “they don’t actually need food stamps if they’re just using government handouts to buy luxury items. if you actually needed SNAP you wouldn’t buy a lobster because that’d still mean you go hungry at some point so what use is food assistance money anyway” Some states let you take your SNAP balance out as cash at an ATM and you can use it for whatever - I had friends who would use it to pay their rent
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Shame Boy posted:The only thing conservatives like more than helping rich people is hurting poor people, and that will almost always win out regardless of the amount of lobbying. "Fatten the rich and oppress the poor" as a policy seems to work far too well for the Tories in the UK.   
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500excf type r posted:It is a good thing and food stamps return like $1.50 for every $1 spent back into the economy, maybe more? It has by far the best return on the investment (for everyone) and no real downside other than everyone can't get some food money Shame Boy posted:The only thing conservatives like more than helping rich people is hurting poor people, and that will almost always win out regardless of the amount of lobbying. A lot of their rhetoric is about atomizing the population. Poverty gets treated as an individual failing, not a societal one. The money spent on social programs is YOUR tax money, not just an imaginary number pulled out of nothing. This makes it easier to get people outraged about food stamps. Consider that a person could lose  or get stolen. Either way they are poorer but they are probably more upset if it was due to theft. This is how they can get people so worked up over welfare. And the more those people struggle doing everything Republicans insist is the key to success, the harder they'll blame the 'freeloaders' for making it harder for them. This is also how they sidestep the issue of child hunger and poverty. When you point out that eliminating housing and food support for needy families will doom those children that didn't have any say in the matter, they'll just blame the parents. Again, individual problem, not societal one. Every time you press them on what the governnent should do about all these neglected children of 'freeloaders' it just loops back to "it's the lazy parent's responsibility". Because to them any kind of aid would just encourage parents to be lazy and neglectful. But they'll seldom directly admit that " yes, those children deserve to suffer on principle to teach their parents a lesson and no, we shouldn't feel guilty about something that was never our responsibility to begin with."
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ynohtna posted:"Fatten the rich and oppress the poor" as a policy seems to work far too well for the Tories in the UK. I got a friend on disability in the UK and sometimes the disability money just like, decides not to come, or comes real late, or they skip a month and then do two payments the next month, and luckily this is exactly how rent and utilities bills work too so there's absolutely no problem. Lol j/k for like 6 months out of the year I have to help cover her rent so she doesn't get evicted
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MorrisBae posted:Some states let you take your SNAP balance out as cash at an ATM and you can use it for whatever - I had friends who would use it to pay their rent that fuckin rules
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I feel like that'd make a good outraged BBC news headline, "Britain's disability so broken an AMERICAN has to help cover rent!!!"
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Conspiracy realities. Yuuuuup. I got called a conspiracy theorist in a healthcare thread a while back for pointing out that companies are actively disincentivized from researching actual cures for things in favor of stringing people along.
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ynohtna posted:"Fatten the rich and oppress the poor" as a policy seems to work far too well for the Tories in the UK. It's working well literally everywhere.
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But you see if they didn't have the monetary motivation, they would never research all the marvelous cures you will never afford. Nobody would ever create life saving medicine if they couldn't get filthy rich from it *pushes insulin patent under a carpet*
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One thing I only learned semi-recently was that when a pharm company says like "it costs $20 billion to bring a new drug to market!!" what they're not saying is that includes the "cost" of the money they could be making if they had just taken that R&D budget and thrown it in the stock market and sat on it like a dragon. Maybe everyone already knew this, idk, but it's a pretty big deal imo.
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Shame Boy posted:One thing I only learned semi-recently was that when a pharm company says like "it costs $20 billion to bring a new drug to market!!" what they're not saying is that includes the "cost" of the money they could be making if they had just taken that R&D budget and thrown it in the stock market and sat on it like a dragon. Maybe everyone already knew this, idk, but it's a pretty big deal imo. I mean ok opportunity cost is a thing but... Not like that
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Shame Boy posted:I feel like that'd make a good outraged BBC news headline, "Britain's disability so broken an AMERICAN has to help cover rent!!!" The actual published headline would be "Untold number of benefit claimants receive undeclared additional funds from wealthy foreign benefactors, possibly totalling to billions!" Followed by an article lauding the innovative new Dyson disability assessment bot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvPIV4WJBqY (e: Thank you for helping your friend. I've only just survived a near-2 year period of not getting my disability benefits (they're doing this to near everyone I know in the same categories), and the appeal process is the most demeaning torturous uphill bullshit designed to make folks give up that one could conceivably design.) ynohtna has issued a correction as of 17:14 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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ynohtna posted:(e: Thank you for helping your friend. I've only just survived a near-2 year period of not getting my disability benefits (they're doing this to near everyone I know in the same categories), and the appeal process is the most demeaning torturous uphill bullshit designed to make folks give up that one could conceivably design.) Ah gently caress that sucks. And yeah, whenever they haul her in to see if "maybe you can work a little now, as a treat" or to question if she really needs this money or whatever, the people actually doing the review start out all hostile since I guess its their job to try to get as many people off welfare (or at least to one of those demeaning work programs) as they can. Then they go over her medical history, maybe talk to her doctors, talk to her some, and pretty universally come away with "wow holy poo poo never mind, in fact why aren't you getting more money what the gently caress". This seems to happen whenever there's any kind of perceived discrepancy and it's incredibly frustrating to watch this repeating cycle of her have a panic attack, then have to psych herself up and very carefully plan out how to navigate this minefield to make sure she doesn't accidentally say anything that could possibly be construed as her being capable of anything ever, etc. I'm pretty sure she only has a place to live at all because her friend and roommate works part time at the low income housing office and pushed the paperwork through for the both of them, because of course the people working at the low income housing office are also living in the low income housing why wouldn't they be.
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Like for context her biggest disability at least as far as being unable to work is concerned is that she has memory problems similar to (but not as bad as) the dude in Memento. Like she has to take constant notes on everything in her life, write poo poo on her hands and arms, cover every surface of her desk with post-its, stuff like that. Every morning she's gotta slowly figure out where the hell she is, how she got there, what year it is etc. She's usually pretty lucid and has good working memory during the day but it's pretty much random whether or not she'll be able to remember anything the next day, or a week from now, etc. Good luck holding any kind of a job with a thinker like that. She's incredibly smart and by far one of the most creative people I know too, brains are fuckin' weird.
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A few years ago in Denmark we had a "fun" story about an early retiree (førtidspensionist, person who can't work due to disability basically) who had dared to post a picture of her baking with her daughter on Facebook. Clearly the fact that she could do basic activity with her kid meant that she could probably squeeze in some work as well, so despite being in chronic pain (I think), she was just being a lazy mooch. I think the whole circus started with the loving social service or whatever literally stalking her online to make sure she wasn't cheating. Clearly it's okay to pay people to cyberstalk disabled people to check if they're really disabled, but let's not waste tax money on anyone who might only be in moderate chronic pain.
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it's 100% the basic assumption that you're somehow cheating or at least trying to. however, if they make a mistake (which they do a goddamn lot), its like pulling teeth to get them acknowledge it. ive had a complaint going since august, and it will probably take another couple months before its decided. they think i tried to cheat them out of 500 bucks, and so docked me nearly 2 grand. the mistake is clearly theirs, but that obviously doesnt guarantee i will prevail. Carthag Tuek has issued a correction as of 20:50 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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But now you're more motivated to not be unemployed or disabled or retired or whatever!
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im definitely motivated to keep an eye on their poo poo and make official complaints every chance i get.
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The US is similar, a friend of mine had her appeal rejected by the judge (because afaik literally all disability claims are denied and go to appeal as part of the process) who just threw out everything the government's own psych evaluation had to say, then put in the official judgement that because she had successful gotten on hrt and that is a difficult process she could obviously work
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