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Haramstufe Rot posted:no I get that it's a systemic issue, obviously. I'm still gonna be mad at England tho, in broad strokes. Unfair as that may be. Germany doesn't do that bullshit, and Bayern still makes money. Heck, they even have decent players without being 1.2 billion in debt lmao. Oh ok so you're just here to be a prick about it and make some jibes about the English
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There is no way Barca or Real Madrid backs out unless the project is clearly falling apart already. There's been some murmuring about City and Chelsea not being fully as on board as everyone else, so I expect they'll be the first to abandon ship if this starts to look like a losing bet.
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Haramstufe Rot posted:no I get that it's a systemic issue, obviously. I'm still gonna be mad at England tho, in broad strokes. Unfair as that may be. Germany doesn't do that bullshit, and Bayern still makes money. Heck, they even have decent players without being 1.2 billion in debt lmao. Bayern are not in debt because they get rammed with hundreds of millions of euros of corporate subsidy from a range of pet companies. The moral dividing line that their massive cash injections come from the insurance industry instead of the oil industry doesn't seem that clear. Also if this is actually, meaningfully successful they will 100% join lol.
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Bundy posted:Oh ok so you're just here to be a prick about it and make some jibes about the English Well I do think that the PL started all this bullshit. I don't really think you personally are responsible. However, if I can't be a dick to the English anymore, Football is truly dead. peanut- posted:Bayern are not in debt because they get rammed with hundreds of millions of euros of corporate subsidy from a range of pet companies. The moral dividing line that their massive cash injections come from the insurance industry instead of the oil industry doesn't seem that clear. The difference is probably that Bayern execs are too incompetent, not that they are unwilling.
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my impression was that this was driven forward mainly by the spanish superclubs in conjunction with the glazers and juventus, with everyone else mostly along for the ride and the promise of free cash?
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Apparently the source for Perez's claim that "young people think games are too long" is the figures for people watching highlights on youtube, loving hell that's not because the games are too long it's because they're too expensive you dickhead
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V. Illych L. posted:my impression was that this was driven forward mainly by the spanish superclubs in conjunction with the glazers and juventus, with everyone else mostly along for the ride and the promise of free cash? its real + american owners basically. I have no idea what this guys source is because he's a political journalist but he's also one of the few in the UK to actually break stories instead of being a stenographer https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1384454232867233792?s=20
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Well it seems my extremely informed deep dive analysis of the situation was entirely wrong and it is, in fact, the exact opposite. heh Edit: Being a dick to the Spanish isn't as much fun tho :-(
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https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1384464497553911808?s=20 Having a desperately populist PM might work out well for once.
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me stakeholders!!
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Vando posted:me stakeholders!! what can i say man, i live for the bantz
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quote:The notion that a puffed up group of clubs could form a breakaway motivated by greed was abhorrent to the Premier League 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbxvgwvaX_4 dis good
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That "enjoy all the dead rubbers" jibe from Squires made me think of how they'll have to have the playoffs going down to like 14th place in some kind of convoluted tortured system to make the bottom half of the table relevant. Of course this will make the whole league a dead rubber as finishing in a higher spot will become relatively meaningless. Or maybe they are banking on Spurs vs Athletico battling for 13th place as being a major draw. I'm guessing all the refs will be nobbled to make sure Real, Man U and Juve finish in the top 3.
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Lots of spirited discussion itt, lots of new posters and so on. Gigi, if you need an IK to manage it all I'm standing bye.
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The more I’m thinking about this the more loving pissed off I am. I hope someone blows up an empty stadium
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oliwan posted:Lots of spirited discussion itt, lots of new posters and so on. Gigi, if you need an IK to manage it all I'm standing bye. Thank you oliwan I will let you know if you need to autoban 
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Bundy posted:As for "English" not a single one of the ownerships bar Spurs are based in or are from England. Technically Spurs ownership is based out of the Bahamas, so it's CONCACAF fuckery all the way down Heavy suggestions that if anyone's going to get cold feet, it's City and Chelsea, not particularly because of any great moral concerns about the good of the game but because their ownership doesn't actually need the additional revenue and aren't willing to be dragged down if this can't ride out the PR impact
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But seriously other than the guy who was unaware of the existence of Portuguese this thread has been good. Thank you everyone.
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It still amazes me, as a long suffering Carlisle fan, that many of those clubs that used to come up here with the begging bowls to "save our club" are now members of the Prem. It makes me hopeful that we will not always be the whipping boys of the north. This ESL is antithetical to such a hope. It is never going to happenThe cynicism of it it spectacular. oliwan posted:Lots of spirited discussion itt, lots of new posters and so on. Gigi, if you need an IK to manage it all I'm standing bye. It's coming home.
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nah james corden can gently caress off the stupid fat oval office
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Looke posted:nah james corden can gently caress off the stupid fat oval office
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Guarantee the talk from Perez of shorter games means they're going for four 15 minute quarters, but the broadcast stays the same length because the cut 30 minutes is now ad breaks, just like all the other American sports
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Looke posted:nah james corden can gently caress off the stupid fat oval office
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Looke posted:nah james corden can gently caress off the stupid fat oval office 
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No idea though how much of the City/Chelsea thing is legit and how much of it is Sky trying to generate a wedge via their friends at UNNAMED SOURCE It's not like Chelsea has a real board that's going to vote on this poo poo, and iirc even people who work for the club seem to speak to Abramovich once a year and deal with his PA the rest of the time so I somehow doubt he's giving regular briefings to Helen Chamberlain
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Brexit Means Brexit https://twitter.com/john_vassiliou1/status/1384470568028700674?s=20
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NTRabbit posted:Guarantee the talk from Perez of shorter games means they're going for four 15 minute quarters, but the broadcast stays the same length because the cut 30 minutes is now ad breaks. I don't see that happening at least initially but I can see 'Tactical Timeouts' like in the IPL to shoehorn more ads in. poo poo is hosed if we're hoping for the owners of Chelsea & Man City to see sense.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:No idea though how much of the City/Chelsea thing is legit and how much of it is Sky trying to generate a wedge via their friends at UNNAMED SOURCE I imagine the threat of being chucked out of this year's CL was not something they thought of
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I've already seen the tide turn a bit with Barca fans online who are buying into the narrative that they were forced into doing this and that they don't like it but understand how it was inevitable. My instinct is to say it's all bullshit and they would do this even if they weren't so in debt, but I also see how scared some people are of Madrid getting a leg up and loving them on the next tv deal the way the two of them gently caress everyone else at the moment. Personally, I think they are gutless and wish they stuck to more moral behaviour like human trafficking and embezzlement, but such is life. Either way, it sucks seeing one of the grossest parts of North American sports (empathizing with the owners/executive class) become more popular amongst fans.
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peanut- posted:Brexit Means Brexit can't believe brexit saved football
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https://twitter.com/jimpallotta13/status/1384317932654800898?s=21 This is Roma’s former owner, another American businessman who sold the team this year (to another American businessman). It’s weird to see him have this opinion, though I’m sure it’s just a nice PR move.
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Vando posted:can't believe brexit saved football It’s staying home
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Vegetable posted:They could probably make a poo poo ton of TV revenue just by not following the Champion's League schedule of airing games at 3 in the morning in East Asia/Southeast Asia they're absolutely going to make even more money by holding the games themselves in beijing and new york and melbourne and wherever
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