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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
Must suck to be in Ontario, meanwhile here in beautiful British Columbia I can go to any town I want and catch whatever variant I choose :smug:

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Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012

variants just means more choice for consumers

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003



Long* live the free market

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
must suck to live in a socialist country where there are always shortages of just one variant

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003



vyelkin posted:

must suck to live in a socialist country where there are always shortages of just one variant



Thank you doug!

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
As a moron royalist I love what a great job Boris Johnson did incubating a brand new variant for the Commonwealth. SECOND BRITISH INVASION, BABY!!

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

As a moron royalist I love what a great job Boris Johnson did incubating a brand new variant for the Commonwealth. SECOND BRITISH INVASION, BABY!!

cheese ya lungs, guv'nah?

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
I'm just amazed that they only managed to kill 100,000 more people than us so far plus create a vaccine that does gently caress all against the now-prevalent variants. They did a real lockdown, don't you know :downs:

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

a vaccine that does gently caress all against the now-prevalent variants

nonsense

it's still 62% effective against b117. that is actually great in terms of the wider vaccine world and would be a very successful flu season, for comparison.

there does appear to be substantially reduced efficacy vs the south african variant, though.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

It's higher than 0 and it's what's on offer

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

flakeloaf posted:

It's higher than 0 and it's what's on offer

They're still highly effective at preventing death and serious illness!

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Another Bill posted:

They're still highly effective at preventing death and serious illness!

yup! which is the most important part. all we have to do is get through this, which we will (though not as unscathed as we should, obviously), and i expect we'll see substantial effort toward a pancorona vaccine.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
AZ vaccine sites are now being listed on official govt websites as age 40+ in BC so I guess since boomers are vaccine shopping, the AZ vaccine suddenly became safer for people outside the 55-65 age range

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
I'm not 40, so I still want John to tell me where my loving vaccine is

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



My gf was reading about how thanks to the extremely slow rollouts of these vaccines, and number of people who are going to refuse to get one (globally, not just here in Canada) Covid is never going to go away. It's going to constantly mutate, and we'll be looking at getting yearly covid-season shots in the same way we get our yearly flu shots.

enki42
Jun 11, 2001
#ATMLIVESMATTER

Put this Nazi-lover on ignore immediately!
Vaccines were never going to prevent COVID from being endemic. This isn't a failure of a vaccine rollout - it's by far the fastest vaccine development and the largest (and probably fastest) rollout we've ever done, by a significant margin (the previous development record was 5 years for Ebola). The problem is too many places adopted a strategy of minimizing stress on the health care system instead of aiming for eliminating COVID altogether.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

ExecuDork posted:

I spend 8 months of 2018 at LU as a post-doc, working on the ReGreening project, the 40+ years of tree-planting on acidic, polluted soil that's actually working to return Sudbury to a forested city from its previous moonscape status.

I remember 20years ago if you were driving across Ontario you could tell when you were getting close to Sudbury because all the trees literally started getting shorter and then they got taller again as you drove away.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003



There's probably something to be said for patent rights forcing the vaccine into something like COVAX rather than just "open sourcing" the vaccine and letting everyone who can manufacture it. That sounds kind of naive when I say it but I think it's a factor.

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

I remember getting polio vaccinations as a child in Europe, and that wasn't officially declared eliminated until 2000. Hell, you needed to get a yearly shot to protect yourself from tick-borne Lyme disease where I'm from.

Sassafras
Dec 24, 2004

by Athanatos

ZeeBoi posted:

I remember getting polio vaccinations as a child in Europe, and that wasn't officially declared eliminated until 2000. Hell, you needed to get a yearly shot to protect yourself from tick-borne Lyme disease where I'm from.

Got me curious since I'd never even heard of a Lyme disease vaccine and it looks like a GSK one called LYMERix was only available from 1998-2002 as a one(?)-time series of three shots before being abandoned for want of customer demand. Roughly 80% effective.

US-centric info though - Was there a different one only available locally somewhere?

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

Whoops, sorry it's called tick-borne encephalitis.

https://www.who.int/teams/immunization-vaccines-and-biologicals/diseases/tick-borne-encephalitis

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Sounds like a perfect counter to all that head shrinking Zika :thunk:

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Supposedly in May I can get a vaccine here in Qubec.

I'll believe it when I have the needle stuck in my arm.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

MonsieurChoc posted:

Supposedly in May I can get a vaccine here in Qubec.

I'll believe it when I have the needle stuck in my arm.

I don't know how old you are but

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-quebecs-top-doctor-says-province-will-lower-age-of-eligibility-for/

quote:

Quebecs director of public health said the province will lower the age of eligibility for the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine today.

Goosed it.
Nov 3, 2011

ZeeBoi posted:

I remember getting polio vaccinations as a child in Europe, and that wasn't officially declared eliminated until 2000. Hell, you needed to get a yearly shot to protect yourself from tick-borne Lyme disease where I'm from.

Polio isn't officially eliminated. It is still endemic in parts of Asia.

Polio vaccines are part of the routine vaccination schedule in Canada.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...s-children.html

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

Goosed it. posted:

Polio isn't officially eliminated. It is still endemic in parts of Asia.

Polio vaccines are part of the routine vaccination schedule in Canada.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...s-children.html

*declared eliminated in Europe

I suck at posting today :downs:

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Martytoof posted:

There's probably something to be said for patent rights forcing the vaccine into something like COVAX rather than just "open sourcing" the vaccine and letting everyone who can manufacture it. That sounds kind of naive when I say it but I think it's a factor.

No you're absolutely right and if you want to get really mad about this, you can read about how Bill Gates is using his money and philanthropic clout to ensure IP protection on Covid vaccines so that poor people can't get them for cheap, despite the fact that something like the AZ vaccine was developed over the last 20 years based on 97% of its research funding coming from public sources rather than private industry.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕
Post all the vaccines on github so I can download them and sell them as NFTs so that I can afford a downpayment on a house

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

https://twitter.com/CBCOttawa/status/1384260570363301893

could've bought more vaccines instead of a monument to nazis

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
$4M might seem like a bit much for a ring, but it's a pretty large ring

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

I can't wait to tag that thing with a red spraypainted hammer and sickle

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator
We should instead recreate that statue of Chronos punching all those babies and label it CAPITALISM VS POORS

Pretty much the same thing

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

yellowcar posted:

https://twitter.com/CBCOttawa/status/1384260570363301893

could've bought more vaccines instead of a monument to nazis

Great website!
I wonder who some of those donations are dedicated to.



Seems pretty rude to not list his other accomplishments! Being the second most genocidal European ruler during WW2 and architect of the biggest concentration camp outside of Poland was not an easy task. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Paveli%C4%87#Genocide

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
anybody toking up on the hill this year

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator

Starks posted:

Great website!
I wonder who some of those donations are dedicated to.



Seems pretty rude to not list his other accomplishments! Being the second most genocidal European ruler during WW2 and architect of the biggest concentration camp outside of Poland was not an easy task. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Paveli%C4%87#Genocide

Lmao of course

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

I doubt it, I'm 33.

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance

Mameluke posted:

anybody toking up on the hill this year

i can't get high anymore without having vicious panic attacks, possibly due to how terrible everything is. it's also possible that i am a victim of communism.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
canada is a failed state

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


prom candy posted:

i can't get high anymore without having vicious panic attacks, possibly due to how terrible everything is. it's also possible that i am a victim of communism.

Ill just have to burn another one for ya bud

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DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
also my hot take of the day: the libs are mildly better than the cons because the libs actually have some original thoughts it seems while the cons are literally just scratching out state names on american bills and writing their own provinces names on them now

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