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Crazy Ted posted:That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure so I figured I'd ask in here. Also: Most conservative media figures will be smart enough to say something like this. Even though cops killing black people with impunity is their preferred outcome, throwing Chauvin under the bus lets them blame one of the "bad apples" rather than admit there's systemic rot within the culture of all law enforcement.
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Crazy Ted posted:That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure so I figured I'd ask in here. Also: When this happened literally everyone was outraged. Even that poo poo heap former President said it was wrong. I'm awaiting to see how many of them change their minds with this verdict though.... E: CommieGIR posted:I still believe this only happened because so many police testified against him - From trainers to supervisors.
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CommieGIR posted:Chauvin had a long history of being a bully in uniform, so this is long overdue. He's about to have another long history. It's really going to suck to be Derek Chauvin in state prison, for reasons totally unrelated to the fact that our prison system is inhumane and barbaric.
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CommieGIR posted:I still believe this only happened because so many police testified against him - From trainers to supervisors. I encourage more cops to testify against their murderous coworkers.
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What's the maximum amount of time Chauvin can rot in prison for?
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Kro-Bar posted:What's the maximum amount of time Chauvin can rot in prison for? 40 years.
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Kro-Bar posted:What's the maximum amount of time Chauvin can rot in prison for?
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Kro-Bar posted:What's the maximum amount of time Chauvin can rot in prison for? He's in his mid 40's now. He's gonna be an old man or die in prison. I'd rather he be rehabilitated but unfortunately prison is an industry about vengeance rather than justice. But it's nice to see the bully murderer get his comeuppance.
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Crazy Ted posted:I was kind of wondering that myself? Also, if 2nd Degree Murder means he committed Murder while committing another felony, then technically what is the other felony? Here are the exact laws: UNINTENTIONAL MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.19 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195 MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.205 The second degree charge is because Floyd was in 'protection' at the time. Still weird hows its more of a sentence than third degree murder imo.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:He's in his mid 40's now. He's gonna be an old man or die in prison. I'd rather he be rehabilitated but unfortunately prison is an industry about vengeance rather than justice. But it's nice to see the bully murderer get his comeuppance.
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FizFashizzle posted:Fox News blaming the political climate or joe biden for the unfair verdict? No they're saying that he deserves this and therefore the system works perfectly and all the protestors are idiots who should've trusted the system.
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Kro-Bar posted:What's the maximum amount of time Chauvin can rot in prison for? 2nd degree murder: 40 max 3rd degree murder: 25 max 2nd degree manslaughter: 10 max Overall, somewhere between 10-20 is likely Foxfire_ fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Apr 20, 2021 |
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i'd guess the judge will give him 20-25, and then he'll get time served and good behavior just in time to get out when he's 62 or so.
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Chauvin isn't going to be sentenced to 40 years. I think people expecting him to be locked up for more than 12.5-15 years are going to be highly disappointed. Even with a longer sentence, parole comes into play fairly quickly with state crimes. He won't be a cop ever again, though.
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Very cool. Now do Rittenhouse
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I'm really glad to hear that Chauvin was convicted, but I worry that he will be nothing more than a sacrificial lamb. Floyd's murder was such a massive societal moment that to let his murderer go would have been a catalyst for complete chaos. Real justice would be this level of scrutiny being upheld for future deaths at the hands of the police, and I'm skeptical that it's coming. I'm sure everyone else has already thought these same thoughts, I'm just airing them out. Still, this is an amazing result for the moment. I'm glad things went this way and it's terrible that we even had to consider the possibility that the verdict would have been anything else.
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FizFashizzle posted:Fox News blaming the political climate or joe biden for the unfair verdict? I think we both know they'll blame Maxine Waters.
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Sarcastro posted:I think we both know they'll blame Maxine Waters. 100%. Chuds area already rolling with this, saying she intimidated the jury into a verdict by saying a completely fine and reasonable statement.
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Clarste posted:No they're saying that he deserves this and therefore the system works perfectly and all the protestors are idiots who should've trusted the system. Yeah this is whats going to happen going forward. It's going to be an uphill struggle to argue with bad-faith people that no, it doesn't mean the system works.
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https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1384624882600796167 Jesus Christ Nancy Edit: Also I don't know what "The Recount" is, it's just the best quality clip I could find of this. Hope it's not some Nazi org or something.
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Insurrectum posted:Chauvin isn't going to be sentenced to 40 years. I think people expecting him to be locked up for more than 12.5-15 years are going to be highly disappointed. Even with a longer sentence, parole comes into play fairly quickly with state crimes. Those people need to reckon with their own beliefs that we also should be reforming criminals instead of locking them up for 25+ years.
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Less Fat Luke posted:https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1384624882600796167 Uh sacrifice implies that he chose to get murdered for the greater good, which is terrible framing Nancy.
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Less Fat Luke posted:https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1384624882600796167 Nancy can barely pretend to be a human being while doing this pandering
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Jaxyon posted:100%. While completely ignoring the very simple fact that the jury was sequestered
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Yeah what the gently caress he didn't volunteer for it you lunatic.
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Less Fat Luke posted:https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1384624882600796167 Good God almighty. She had a year to prepare any number of statements for any number of outcomes, and this is what she came up with?
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The Lord of Hats posted:This obviously didn’t solve the problem, but this is definitely the Good Timeline way for things to go down. I can’t even loving imagine how bad things would have been if he’d walked. I would like to report that the muffin is good. Also that Pelosi's state is really fuckin' dumb, what the gently caress.
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Nancy Pelosi does not give a poo poo about any of this, hth She’s a ghoul of a person and it’s not surprising she gave a statement that reflects this fact
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Less Fat Luke posted:https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1384624882600796167 She's the loving speaker. How did this statement make it past the various stages of review that it must have.
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Surprised Pelosi didn't call for black people to get killed en masse to achieve harmony in the world. How do you read those words she had and think they sound good, jesus christ. e: I was feeling good after the verdict was read, of course Pelosi's dumb rear end would chime in to spoil it
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Lustful Man Hugs posted:She's the loving speaker. How did this statement make it past the various stages of review that it must have. Her staffers who vet these statements are also sociopaths
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They're all loving doing it what the gently caress https://twitter.com/MayorFrey/status/1384619597576474625 Is this the same loving idiot who got booed out of a protest he decided to try and speak to?
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Less Fat Luke posted:Jesus Christ Nancy 
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OwlFancier posted:They're all loving doing it what the gently caress George Floyd is not Jesus you loving pod people.
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I am also awful at public speaking and would say things 10,000% stupider and awfuler than that wholly unintentionally if I were speaker of the house, but that is also why I didn't make public speaking my career
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This really has to be drilled into people's heads. It's not training. At bare minimum, it's the police culture that makes them think they are above the law, although I would argue the institution of policing has always been the problem.
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LionYeti posted:George Floyd is not Jesus you loving pod people. Waiting for the first lib political cartoonist to draw George Floyd wearing the Black Panther costume.
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OwlFancier posted:They're all loving doing it what the gently caress Yep!
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