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CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Syncopated posted:

https://twitter.com/MilanEye/status/1384625465424416771?s=20

UEFA has correctly identified the enemy and the weak spots I guess?

Lol

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Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Syncopated posted:

https://twitter.com/MilanEye/status/1384625465424416771?s=20

UEFA has correctly identified the enemy and the weak spots I guess?

People keeping quoting this but there’s no article at that link so

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


an_mutt posted:

edit: it would be cool if people realised that actually billionaires have been doing this to literally every public service and good we have had access to for the last 40+ years. Football is loving infinitesimal compared to having homes/healthcare/transport/utilities taken from and sold back to us at obscene mark-ups, lol. I hope a lot more socialists are created as a result of EFL sleaze!

At the very least I hope a lot more people recognize that most billionaires and business executives are actually incredibly loving stupid

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



your friend wicka posted:

At the very least I hope a lot more people recognize that most billionaires and business executives are actually incredibly loving stupid

this will be football's greatest service to mankind

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

Syncopated posted:

https://twitter.com/MilanEye/status/1384625465424416771?s=20

UEFA has correctly identified the enemy and the weak spots I guess?

I hope this is true because if correct and Juventus is also without a "here's more money" proposal, then this is just the right amount of evil to almost vindicate UEFA's conduct*

*in this specific matter only

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/joel-glazer-writes-open-letter-to-man-utd-supporters-april-2021
tl;dr: We'd have got away with it if not for those meddling fans, oops, our bad

Rad Russian
Aug 15, 2007

Soviet Power Supreme!
EUFA is still going ahead with the changes of giving two champions league spots to "super teams" that didn't qualify on merit. They'll let this simmer for a few years, and expand it to 4, then 8, then 12 before it just becomes EUFA super league anyway.

A better outcome would have been for Super League to run for a year to collapse the champions league, before collapsing itself due to public outcry and govt regulations. Then a better and more fair body could have been formed.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
Even though I'm glad this is dead, Sky are such shameless fucks

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1384888404861587460

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

peanut- posted:

Even though I'm glad this is dead, Sky are such shameless fucks

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1384888404861587460

If they keep the pressure on for legislative changes I don't care if they're shameless fucks. If they just want to do a victory lap they can gently caress off

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

peanut- posted:

Even though I'm glad this is dead, Sky are such shameless fucks

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1384888404861587460

I didn't know Trebek was such a thorn in their side all these years

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

mfcrocker posted:

If they keep the pressure on for legislative changes I don't care if they're shameless fucks. If they just want to do a victory lap they can gently caress off

Do you really think Sky wants actual legislation? This is a total PR victory lap.

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

I'm mildly interested in the legal knife fight that will still probably take place, and likely to be initiated by Perez against the English clubs. On paper, the SL still exists, and I don't believe Perez has publicly announced Madrid's withdrawal. Is that correct? And so the legal prohibitions and penalties for withdrawal that Perez earlier alluded to still exist as liabilities to the clubs who publicly commented they have exited. I wonder if all that legal aggro will take place? And will the penalties come out of the club's money? And paid to whom? The paper SL as war chest for future mischief?


Bundy posted:

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/joel-glazer-writes-open-letter-to-man-utd-supporters-april-2021
tl;dr: We'd have got away with it if not for those meddling fans, oops, our bad

This, "You spoke, we listened, we heard you," shite is nauseating.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Akileese posted:

Barcelona and Real Madrid are carrying more than 2 billion dollars in debt between them so yep, definitely the weak spot.

I want to see a world where Barca and Madrid actually have to declare bankruptcy and go into administration

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
I'd love it, love it if Barca and Real got Rangersified and had to become new entities at the bottom of the pyramid.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Chas McGill posted:

I'd love it, love it if Barca and Real got Rangersified and had to become new entities at the bottom of the pyramid.

All the big money stars enacting the relegation clauses that were agreed to in their contracts as a joke, because they'd never be used, to leave both teams on a free transfer

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

Chas McGill posted:

I'd love it, love it if Barca and Real got Rangersified and had to become new entities at the bottom of the pyramid.

This but all 12 teams.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
There's now talk about undoing some of the recent CL changes, especially the plan to let in teams that didn't qualify but have high European coefficients.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/21/uefa-could-be-forced-to-alter-champions-league-plans-amid-backlash-super-league

The funny part is that it's the ECA that's pressuring UEFA to rescind these changes, which they can do because the Super League 12 all resigned from the ECA when they announced the Super League.

TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


Azhais posted:

I didn't know Trebek was such a thorn in their side all these years

Alex died, Super League plans happen months later...coincidence???

#QtheSuperLeague

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
Kinda weird how fans mobilized and got this shut down in days but their governments have been doing this same poo poo for decades and nothing

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Well unless it turns out that UEFA did actually bribe all the English teams to quit, nice easy win there to then act like it was all for the fans.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Rad Russian posted:

EUFA is still going ahead with the changes of giving two champions league spots to "super teams" that didn't qualify on merit. They'll let this simmer for a few years, and expand it to 4, then 8, then 12 before it just becomes EUFA super league anyway.

A better outcome would have been for Super League to run for a year to collapse the champions league, before collapsing itself due to public outcry and govt regulations. Then a better and more fair body could have been formed.

a better and more fair body will not be formed regardless of circumstance

Redczar
Nov 9, 2011

vyelkin posted:

The funny part is that it's the ECA that's pressuring UEFA to rescind these changes, which they can do because the Super League 12 all resigned from the ECA when they announced the Super League.

This is the most delectable detail

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

African AIDS cum posted:

Kinda weird how fans mobilized and got this shut down in days but their governments have been doing this same poo poo for decades and nothing

welcome to rainy fascism island

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

Flayer posted:

Well unless it turns out that UEFA did actually bribe all the English teams to quit, nice easy win there to then act like it was all for the fans.

Is there anything beyond an angry Spanish article about this? Not that I don’t believe it, but you know.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

Gigi Galli posted:

Is there anything beyond an angry Spanish article about this? Not that I don’t believe it, but you know.
It's entirely speculation basically, haven't seen anything concrete.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
100% chance that once their super league was established they'd allow new teams to join by paying huge expansion fees that the existing owners all divvy up just like what happens in the ponzi scheme that is MLS

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



African AIDS cum posted:

100% chance that once their super league was established they'd allow new teams to join by paying huge expansion fees that the existing owners all divvy up just like what happens in the ponzi scheme that is MLS

just wait til MLS creates European franchises associated with old clubs, then slowly transforms those franchises into the old clubs, and buys all their players for suspiciously cheap, and form their own super league.

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

BUG JUG posted:

just wait til MLS creates European franchises associated with old clubs, then slowly transforms those franchises into the old clubs, and buys all their players for suspiciously cheap, and form their own super league.

The nadir league

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.
Can someone give me a summary of how Germany's fan ownership requirement works? I see lots of posters and internet commentators pointing to it like it's some amazing model, but you still have Red Bull able to get a foothold and Bayern have been ridiculously dominant over the past decade and a half. Is it really all that in terms of preventing financial fiascos and promoting stability and competitiveness?

BUG JUG posted:

just wait til MLS creates European franchises associated with old clubs, then slowly transforms those franchises into the old clubs, and buys all their players for suspiciously cheap, and form their own super league.

Sporting Kansas City! Real Salt Lake! It's there for the taking.

Slotducks
Oct 16, 2008

Nobody puts Phil in a corner.


Eric Cantonese posted:

Can someone give me a summary of how Germany's fan ownership requirement works? I see lots of posters and internet commentators pointing to it like it's some amazing model, but you still have Red Bull able to get a foothold and Bayern have been ridiculously dominant over the past decade and a half. Is it really all that in terms of preventing financial fiascos and promoting stability and competitiveness?


Sporting Kansas City! Real Salt Lake! It's there for the taking.

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/german-soccer-rules-50-1-fifty-plus-one-explained-466583.jsp

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/08/why-rb-leipzig-has-become-the-most-hated-club-in-german-football

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


Eric Cantonese posted:

Can someone give me a summary of how Germany's fan ownership requirement works? I see lots of posters and internet commentators pointing to it like it's some amazing model, but you still have Red Bull able to get a foothold and Bayern have been ridiculously dominant over the past decade and a half. Is it really all that in terms of preventing financial fiascos and promoting stability and competitiveness?

To ensure that clubs belong to the community that they're in, they're not allowed to sell more than 49% of their shares to commercial interests. Red Bull gets around it by charging exorbitant membership fees so that the only people who can afford it are Red Bull executives.

e:f,b

Weaponized Cum
Aug 31, 2004


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https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/1384940501988675589?s=19

Ffs

FullLeatherJacket
Dec 30, 2004

Chiunque può essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett

are the german fans allowed to call someone a son of a whore yet without the refs abandoning the game

because I feel like that's a key part of the UK ownership model

Al2001
Apr 7, 2007

You've gone through at the back

African AIDS cum posted:

Kinda weird how fans mobilized and got this shut down in days but their governments have been doing this same poo poo for decades and nothing

Are Phil has only been in the ground a few days, have some respect

General Probe
Dec 28, 2004
Has this been done before?
Soiled Meat
So I'm trying to learn more about ECA membership since it seems relevant now. Do the clubs that resigned that were founding members of the ECA and resigned to form the ESL lose that status forever or do they get it back if they rejoin? Since ECA membership is based on UEFA coefficient do they automatically get membership again at the next cycle assuming they finish high enough or do they have to apply? The website mentions they have to be nominated, if so by whom, another club? Do the teams from Milan and Liverpool lose the legacy status they seem to have been granted?

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003


all those fuckers got out-politicized by a guy who did nothing lol

3peat
May 6, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zOrdScv6ZE

Slotducks
Oct 16, 2008

Nobody puts Phil in a corner.



Holy poo poo John loving Bercow

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Gigi Galli posted:

Is there anything beyond an angry Spanish article about this? Not that I don’t believe it, but you know.

it's probably salty bullshit lol, apparently both barca and occasionally perez fed stories through that paper

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wicka
Jun 28, 2007



Bercowns, no one tell me a single bad thing about this man

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