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zoux posted:Oh it for sure is and in fact is and has been a huge priority of rural Republicans, just the lib-owning crowd instantly seized on it because I guess only effete latte sipping libs need to surf the web and not burly grain-tossing conservative men. I think the missing part of this is "A billion dollars is a lot of money for one person..." e: gator tax https://twitter.com/GatorsDaily/status/1384930153168523268?s=20
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FizFashizzle posted:Which Senators intern is tasked with putting those lovely charts together? As I understand it there is a permanent Congressional graphic design department that makes all these charts for everyone
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Halloween Jack posted:He filed a police report against Zoey Tur. I assume anyone who tries to Richard Spencer him is going to get criminally charged and sued into oblivion. "Conservatism requires an ingroup that the law protects but does not bind, and an outgroup that the law binds but does not protect."
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syntaxrigger posted:I think the missing part of this is "A billion dollars is a lot of money for one person..." The conflation of personal and sovereign wealth is central to conservative austerity politics. https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1385263393074991104 Not surprising, but still historic.
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I really don’t get republicans resistance to infrastructure spending. If they were smarter they would aim to treat it exactly like defense spending and tailor their proposals for maximum grift and wealth transfer from tax payers to construction conglomerates. They did it in Iraq. Why not in America?
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funkymonks posted:I really don’t get republicans resistance to infrastructure spending. If they were smarter they would aim to treat it exactly like defense spending and tailor their proposals for maximum grift and wealth transfer from tax payers to construction conglomerates. They did it in Iraq. Why not in America? they have to pretend to care about the deficit now that a democrat is president
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Kraftwerk posted:I know a guy who was a serial entrepreneur. Ran a shady print shop out of some industrial unit in a non-name neighborhood. He opened up businesses like exotic car rental services, some weird scheme with uber where he bought lovely used cars (before uber had standards for vehicles) and he paid you an hourly wage while the actual earnings from uber went into an account somewhere. It was always some kind of scheme or scam. Now he's making it rich and living out of a penthouse apartment because he found a way to modularize crypto mining by selling modified ocean freight cargo containers set up to take mining rigs and vent heat into atmosphere. Basically he found a way to make crypto mining scalable while using real estate efficiently. I swear I used to work with this exact same guy. Did your guy also at one point try to get into both the cracklins/pork rinds business and start a Vietnamese crawfish restaurant? That guy had like ten bitcoins back in 2015 and constantly checked their value, I can’t imagine how loaded he is now.
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zoux posted:The conflation of personal and sovereign wealth is central to conservative austerity politics. Surprised at how unified the House dems are here, would've thought at least one random blue dog would oppose.
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funkymonks posted:I really don’t get republicans resistance to infrastructure spending. If they were smarter they would aim to treat it exactly like defense spending and tailor their proposals for maximum grift and wealth transfer from tax payers to construction conglomerates. They did it in Iraq. Why not in America?
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Is it possible for the republicans to sabotage DC statehood by delaying until the midterms or undoing it?
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:they have to pretend to care about the deficit now that a democrat is president They don't have to do anything to get Republican voters apart from being suitably racist and kissing the feet of Trump.
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ryde posted:Is it possible for the republicans to sabotage DC statehood by delaying until the midterms or undoing it? Delaying with the filibuster maybe. Undoing it I think is impossible. You need the consent of a state to subdivide it, but I don't think it was ever conceived that a state would be nullified. Undoing it might also fall under "no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."
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ryde posted:Is it possible for the republicans to sabotage DC statehood by delaying until the midterms or undoing it? Democratic Senators will do it themselves.
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Youth Decay posted:They don't have to do anything to get Republican voters apart from being suitably racist and kissing the feet of Trump. I read this as “subtly” racist and was gonna say there is nothing subtle about it anymore
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ryde posted:Is it possible for the republicans to sabotage DC statehood by delaying until the midterms or undoing it? The Senate resolution will be filibusterable, so unless the filibuster is modified it's dead. If it passes there is no procedure for eliminating a state without the consent of that state so it's effectively permanent.
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The same people who are against taxes being used for infrastructure are the ones who bitch and moan everytime toll roads go up in price.
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Wait, I thought Serious Conservative Intellectuals were complaining about broadband not being real infrastructure, but the conservative plan includes it? Lmao
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Inferior Third Season posted:Republicans don't need to sabotage D.C. statehood. Can we not; after the past few months since Biden got the (with qualifiders) trifecta there's been no evidence of this. The main issue is can the GOP filibuster, and if they do is there a way to modify or rules lawyer around it; and if not does the political will exist to do what needs to be done or do they need to use it as a campaign issue for 2022.
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haveblue posted:The Senate resolution will be filibusterable, so unless the filibuster is modified it's dead. If it passes there is no procedure for eliminating a state without the consent of that state so it's effectively permanent. If the Dem senators can't change the filibuster to literally give themselves like 4% more votes....
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Pakistani Brad Pitt posted:If the Dem senators can't change the filibuster to literally give themselves like 4% more votes.... Manchin and Simena, not "Dems".
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Arist posted:Wait, I thought Serious Conservative Intellectuals were complaining about broadband not being real infrastructure, but the conservative plan includes it? Lmao Obviously they’re making compromises in the interest of bipartisanship. Look how generous they’re being!
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If there weren't Manchin and Simena, the left wing of capital would invent another Manchin and Simena.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/ESCochrane/status/1385260526943547393 There's 0% chance this is real. Republicans would never propose spending money on public transit systems.
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Lol don't you love the republicants just want to buy roads. Because roads benefit existing capital and trains benefit workers
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Ruzihm posted:If there weren't Manchin and Simena, the left wing of capital would invent another Manchin and Simena. This isn't true, and it's pointless nothing matters nihilism.
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zoux posted:Oh it for sure is and in fact is and has been a huge priority of rural Republicans, just the lib-owning crowd instantly seized on it because I guess only effete latte sipping libs need to surf the web and not burly grain-tossing conservative men. So this is what it feels like to be low balled by an insurance company by an insulting amount on a claim. Doctor Butts fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:Manchin and Simena, not "Dems". Piggy backing on this, they're smart enough to know that DC statehood gives them, personally, less power. You can hold poo poo hostage for money if you're not longer a deciding vote. So the real uphill battle is going to be seeing if they can convince Sinema she will lose re-election by not abolishing the filibuster to vote DC into statehood. I think Manchin will feel enough pressure and has already been vaguely setting himself up to do so, so he'll do his usually bullshit and go along with the party line anyway, but I don't really trust Sinema after her curtsy vote to gently caress over the US worker with lower wages and followup gently caress Off ring in the face of criticisms.
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My opinion is: they will not end the filibuster for DC statehood. Not happy about it, but that's just the way it looks to me.
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zoux posted:My opinion is: they will not end the filibuster for DC statehood. Not happy about it, but that's just the way it looks to me. This is where I'm at, but it's pretty drat popular, so I'm looking forward to the blowback from this combined with blowback from the next thing (probably HR1) might make them finally do it, which means DC statehood could very well be revisited.
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zoux posted:My opinion is: they will not end the filibuster for DC statehood. Not happy about it, but that's just the way it looks to me. i think they will end it/modify it over voting rights.
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I actually don't think they'll do it at all for any reason. They used up all their courage on ARP.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/ESCochrane/status/1385260526943547393 Lol who was the dork that was saying Republicans might negotiate in good faith yesterday? I am now certain in my belief that what everyone assumed was cutthroat Republican political acumen was just coasting on democratic incompetence. They seem completely unprepared for democrats doing anything at all. Sedisp fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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Saxophone posted:Piggy backing on this, they're smart enough to know that DC statehood gives them, personally, less power. You can hold poo poo hostage for money if you're not longer a deciding vote. I think there's wiggle room because seating DC's senators wouldn't happen right away, would it even be possible before the 2022 election? They're the deciding vote now but if dems lose a hypothetical seat they'd still be the tiebreakers.
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Blorange posted:I think there's wiggle room because seating DC's senators wouldn't happen right away, would it even be possible before the 2022 election? They're the deciding vote now but if dems lose a hypothetical seat they'd still be the tiebreakers. DC has shadow senators for expressly this purpose, they are elected like senators and can fill the seats immediately. There's also an unofficial (not sanctioned by Congress) shadow rep though I think the official plan is for Delegate Norton to become Representative Norton.
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zoux posted:My opinion is: they will not end the filibuster for DC statehood. Not happy about it, but that's just the way it looks to me. I thought there was an open question on whether granting statehood is even subject to the filibuster. Is it filibusterable?
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Saxophone posted:Piggy backing on this, they're smart enough to know that DC statehood gives them, personally, less power. You can hold poo poo hostage for money if you're not longer a deciding vote. That's a really good point and it might be more than those two assholes. Why would any of those people want the percentage of their power to be lowered?
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ryde posted:I was looking around for a frame of reference, such as typical yearly spending on roads or broadband infrastructure, and came up short. The numbers seem low to me but I have no way to evaluate them -- they could just seem that way because of anchoring against multi-trillion infrastructure plans put out by Democrats. It's for building new. It's going from the Seatac airport to Seattle all the way up to the deep north suburbs. We'll probably all be dead before it's completed but progress is being made! But it's already been quite a lot of building.
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Youth Decay posted:DC has shadow senators for expressly this purpose, they are elected like senators and can fill the seats immediately. There's also an unofficial (not sanctioned by Congress) shadow rep though I think the official plan is for Delegate Norton to become Representative Norton. Oh that looks interesting, let’s see if there’s a Wikipedia page on this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Donald_Brown quote:Brown is known colloquially as "white Mike" to distinguish him from Michael A. Brown, another Washington D.C. politician who shares the same name.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Oh that looks interesting, let’s see if there’s a Wikipedia page on this Well this is the year 2021 after all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdilb_yErAk
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https://twitter.com/allyversprille/status/1385280291082838020?s=20 Pretty good. The rich got massively richer in the past year and maybe even more so in 2021 with the current housing bubble. I'm sure they won't mind splitting a piece of their big fat pie.
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