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Vince MechMahon posted:I always looked at it as if Danny hit Shang with the fist, it's over. But Shang is good enough he wouldn't get hit with it. In general, how high up the flag pole do you have to be for this to not be true? I feel like he'd sleep Luke or Thing with the fist too.
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SonicRulez posted:In general, how high up the flag pole do you have to be for this to not be true? I feel like he'd sleep Luke or Thing with the fist too. He's punched out Hercules, Skaar and Ragnarok.
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Apparently the trailer for Shang-Chi is getting a negative response in China and among other things like it looking too "westernized" a big part of it is also a lot of people over there think Simu Liu is ugly for some reason. I don't see it but that's gotta be tough on him.
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X-O posted:Apparently the trailer for Shang-Chi is getting a negative response in China and among other things like it looking too "westernized" a big part of it is also a lot of people over there think Simu Liu is ugly for some reason. I don't see it but that's gotta be tough on him. I mean I think it’s mostly shot in SF, right?
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X-O posted:Apparently the trailer for Shang-Chi is getting a negative response in China and among other things like it looking too "westernized" a big part of it is also a lot of people over there think Simu Liu is ugly for some reason. I don't see it but that's gotta be tough on him. An entire country thinks he's ugly? Huh, we have more in common than I thought.
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By "a negative response in China", we mean "there's a few guys mouthing off about it on Weibo", right?
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Fangz posted:By "a negative response in China", we mean "there's a few guys mouthing off about it on Weibo", right? not taking youtube likes/dislikes as gospel, especially since people love to brigade poo poo, but the trailers on what look to be marvel’s taiwan and hong kong channels are definitely getting a mixed reaction
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I thought the shang-chi trailer looked OK. I was hoping for less cgi and more practical effects for the martial arts movie. Something like John woo, man of tai chi, or Donnie years work.FlamingLiberal posted:Not enough mention of the Glorious PRC for them? Nice casual sinophobia Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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X-O posted:...... a lot of people over there think Simu Liu is ugly for some reason. Yeah, like Jackie Chan. It's probably just their version of perpetually online melenials/zennials who think he should be a beautiful pop star pretty boy instead of a hunky slab. I guess if you go back, guys like Bruce Lee, Gordon Liu, and Jet Li were pretty so maybe it's always been a thing. He's definitely got a butch look for an Asian actor, I'm kinda surprised that matters in China more than it does here. Edit:VVVVV Absolutely, it's an American character written for an underrepresented demographic of Americans. Sgt. Politeness fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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That's unfortunate for Disney's long term marketing but I don't give a flip. I care way more about what Asian-Americans think about it, since that's where representation will have an effect.
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Idk if I’m super hype for Shang Chi (I’m just a lil burnt on Marvel atm) but this seems like ridiculous criticism; Simu Liu is clearly very handsome?
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Conrad_Birdie posted:Idk if I’m super hype for Shang Chi (I’m just a lil burnt on Marvel atm) but this seems like ridiculous criticism; Simu Liu is clearly very handsome? Different cultures have different standards for beauty. This is fine.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I mean I think it’s mostly shot in SF, right? It's set in SF but apparently was mostly filmed in Sydney, Australia.
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Mr Hootington posted:Different cultures have different standards for beauty. This is fine. I mean, if Chinese Twitter is going in on him for being ugly in a really mean-spirited way, idk if that is “fine.” Seems lovely, actually!
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Conrad_Birdie posted:I mean, if Chinese Twitter is going in on him for being ugly in a really mean-spirited way, idk if that is “fine.” Seems lovely, actually! If people are expressing an opinion about a public figure this is fine. If they are invading his private life to say so this is not.
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Lurdiak posted:That's unfortunate for Disney's long term marketing but I don't give a flip. I care way more about what Asian-Americans think about it, since that's where representation will have an effect. They're not going to be happy either, he's Canadian!
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Leading men in live action stuff from China, Japan, and S. Korea seems to have moved closer to the youthful prettyboy type and away from the more rugged dad-ish type since... maybe the mid 00s? Idk why or if/when it will move a different direction, but the US has had similar swings in the past. You look at American action movies from before the 80s and your leads mostly look like Burt Reynolds, Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson; modestly in shape, mostly regular style dudes with faces like your alcoholic uncle. Then the 80s come and you have your absurdly yoked, larger than life types: Arnie, Stallone, Dolph, with Bruce Willis being the odd man out for his everyman look. Then the 90s wash that macho style out and bring in what is probably closest to Asia's current prettyboy trend with mostly guys that look like they were pulled from 90210. There's probably some politics and social science to be mined from figuring out why these decades produced these heroes (or didn't, in other places), but I'm lazy and I'm not gonna do it
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Spider-Man films finally coming to Disney+ as Sony now has a bigger deal in place with Disney. Sony movies will temporarily hit Netflix after release before ending up on Disney+ and Hulu for good after that. This bodes well for Spider-Man continuing to be a part of the MCU for a long time. https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1384968196294418446
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SlimGoodbody posted:Then the 90s wash that macho style out and bring in what is probably closest to Asia's current prettyboy trend with mostly guys that look like they were pulled from 90210. I dunno, if you say 90's action movie star the first name that comes to my mind is Nic Cage.
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SlimGoodbody posted:Leading men in live action stuff from China, Japan, and S. Korea seems to have moved closer to the youthful prettyboy type and away from the more rugged dad-ish type since... maybe the mid 00s? Idk why or if/when it will move a different direction, but the US has had similar swings in the past. There could also be a racial thing we're missing too. There's multiple different ethnicities within what we would call Chinese and I know they haven't always been treated equally. I hope it's not that.
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Sgt. Politeness posted:There could also be a racial thing we're missing too. There's multiple different ethnicities within what we would call Chinese and I know they haven't always been treated equally. Oh jeez I hadn't even thought of that, but totally. Like how it was really hard to have a non-white action lead in US action movies for quite a while unless you couched it in a genre like "kung fu" or "blaxploitation"
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Cythereal posted:It's set in SF but apparently was mostly filmed in Sydney, Australia. Yeah they did some location work in San Fran too though.
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X-O posted:Spider-Man films finally coming to Disney+ as Sony now has a bigger deal in place with Disney. Sony movies will temporarily hit Netflix after release before ending up on Disney+ and Hulu for good after that. This bodes well for Spider-Man continuing to be a part of the MCU for a long time. Huh, honestly surprised. I thought that after Sony and Disney's very public spat over Spider-Man a few years back was pretty much the end of MCU Spider-Man after the new deal was up. Like I was convinced that with No Way Home doing multiverse stuff was going to end with Spidy and his cast leaving the MCU and ending up in their own universe.
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Veotax posted:Huh, honestly surprised. I thought that after Sony and Disney's very public spat over Spider-Man a few years back was pretty much the end of MCU Spider-Man after the new deal was up. They very publicly reconciled after a new deal got signed. That's why No Way Home is in the MCU still, it originally wasn't going to be.
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Everyone on both sides adores Tom Holland in the role. His passion over being Peter certainly helped spur them along to making a deal.
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That whole thing was just about money anyway. Sony's negotiating position was terrible after TAS2 and after the successes they wanted a better split.
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That is . . . wow. They're bringing in the Olympians to the MCU. Crowe is going to get killed in about 5 seconds in that movie though, right? mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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Hercules, Hercules, Hercules!!
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Huh! Sure, I'll take it. Hopefully it's not just Zeus but the rest of the fam as well; I wanna see them decked out MCU style.
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site posted:Hope they get kevin sorbo as a fakeout who gets killed within the first 10 minutes No, because they'd still have to pay him. How about they just don't have him at all and not pay him anything and let him rot in lovely right-wing DTVs with Dean Cain and Gina Carano.
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Lager posted:Hercules, Hercules, Hercules!! I want full on pansexual Hercules. And the best line I ever saw from him, that sums up how the character should be written is "I was in the library looking up stories about myself!"
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site posted:Hope - kevin sorbo - gets killed
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mikeraskol posted:That is . . . wow. Almost definitely. I can see them opening with Gor wiping out a pantheon, and the Greeks are a well known enough one to general audiences and they are easily resurrected if they want to use them again
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