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xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

V. Illych L. posted:

BJG has been going progressively more insane as the biden admin has been rolling along, i suspect she's in a genuine sort of spiritual crisis at the moment and since it's her mission to try to find some plausible way forward for the american left she's taken it for granted that there must be some such way which works within the strictures of the formal american political system. she seems to be getting more frantic as she tries to avoid admitting that there probably isn't and that there's no such way forward within the time we have left before ecocide

https://mobile.twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1385351761112805380

She's still talking about FTV right this minute. It's like Trump 2020 people at this point.

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Fighting Elegy
Jan 2, 2007
I do not masturbate; I FIGHT!

DirtyRobot posted:

Anyway, I'm really enjoying Ghost Stories for the End of the World. It's excellent. But I interrupted my listening based on gh0stpinballa's post ITT to listen to that Christman Superstructure episode so I'm not really sure how I feel about gh0stpinballa right now tbh

gh0stpinballa posts here? I mostly just lurk but I'd really like to tell him his podcast is good. Usually it takes a while for podcasters to figure out how to organize their research in a way where everything makes sense and isn't boring but I feel like he came right out of the gate being pretty good, and he has a nice voice.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

V. Illych L. posted:

BJG has been going progressively more insane as the biden admin has been rolling along, i suspect she's in a genuine sort of spiritual crisis at the moment and since it's her mission to try to find some plausible way forward for the american left she's taken it for granted that there must be some such way which works within the strictures of the formal american political system. she seems to be getting more frantic as she tries to avoid admitting that there probably isn't and that there's no such way forward within the time we have left before ecocide

Pair this with Virgil's obvious buyers remorse :discourse:

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


Fighting Elegy posted:

gh0stpinballa posts here? I mostly just lurk but I'd really like to tell him his podcast is good. Usually it takes a while for podcasters to figure out how to organize their research in a way where everything makes sense and isn't boring but I feel like he came right out of the gate being pretty good, and he has a nice voice.

yeah he's here https://forums.somethingawful.com/member.php?action=getinfo&username=gh0stpinballa

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

V. Illych L. posted:

BJG has been going progressively more insane as the biden admin has been rolling along, i suspect she's in a genuine sort of spiritual crisis at the moment and since it's her mission to try to find some plausible way forward for the american left she's taken it for granted that there must be some such way which works within the strictures of the formal american political system. she seems to be getting more frantic as she tries to avoid admitting that there probably isn't and that there's no such way forward within the time we have left before ecocide

she's also been destroying her brain by watching every West Wing episode to keep up with the West Wing Thing podcast

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

Nothus posted:

Pair this with Virgil's obvious buyers remorse :discourse:

I haven't listened in a while is it getting bad

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I don't usually watch this kind of debate because I don't have the stomach for it, so I was bemused at Destiny just Gish Galloping as much gibberish as possible. I don't know if he was trying to get under Wolff's skin by thanking him for conceding points he hadn't conceded, or if he is really just that confused.

I also don't like doing this "Help me win arguments with my uncle next Thanksgiving," but I can't help myself. So China is Communist when they're oppressing people, and capitalist when they achieve any success of note. Likewise Norway, which is not socialist but is too socialist for us to adopt their social welfare policies. (You're Scandinavian, right? What's it like to live in some abstract quantum state?) Is there some straightforward argument that cuts through this bullshit, or is it like libertarians with the crony capitalism thing, where it's an article of religious faith?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i caught the end right after the goodbyes and the first thing destiny said was "he didn't let me talk :(" so lol

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

Joementum posted:

she's also been destroying her brain by watching every West Wing episode to keep up with the West Wing Thing podcast

that podcast is even worse than hers lol

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

papa horny michael posted:

that podcast is even worse than hers lol

this week's episode was three hours long and i think they talked about the show for about 30 minutes

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
watching West Wing for a podcast is like filming a video for youtube of you hitting your own hand with a hammer, you need to think about the choices that have led you to this.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

uber_stoat posted:

watching West Wing for a podcast is like filming a video for youtube of you hitting your own hand with a hammer, you need to think about the choices that have led you to this.

speaking of, goon project the worst wing is apparently still going with ~90 plays per ep on soundcloud

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

i say swears online posted:

speaking of, goon project the worst wing is apparently still going with ~90 plays per ep on soundcloud

jesus christ. at what point is it acceptable to just throw in the towel

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Halloween Jack posted:

Is there some straightforward argument that cuts through this bullshit

a simple argument that cuts through ideology?

no

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

we effectively got a "force the vote" type situation with the $15 min wage, is there a reason why m4a would play differently than that did? i mean maybe sinema will face some sort of consequence, but i'd guess it won't have an impact when she's up for reelection

I hate this subject but my thought on the 15 dollar wage was that Manchin and Sinema would not have voted to kill the entire COVID bill that a new democratic president NEEDED to have pass in order to kill the 15 dollar wage as opposed to the M4A vote where over half the D caucus would happily vote against it and face zero political consequences.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
the bad faith panel was about the ways that Dems use boring senate voting/procedures/etc that no one pays attention to to make it look like they're doing something but aren't. brie keeps going on about ftv because she wants to get that concept out there instead of the excuses that dems give and isn't so far gone that she doesn't believe that good things can come out of the system

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

How much of the west wing do you need to watch to cover all the ways its bad and also the ways sorkin is bad

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Joementum posted:

this week's episode was three hours long and i think they talked about the show for about 30 minutes

Yeah it owns.

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


Bootleg Trunks posted:

How much of the west wing do you need to watch to cover all the ways its bad and also the ways sorkin is bad


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVgK5HKj3P4

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

some plague rats posted:

jesus christ. at what point is it acceptable to just throw in the towel

maybe they're having fun making it :shrug:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

some plague rats posted:

jesus christ. at what point is it acceptable to just throw in the towel

Its great though the last ep they covered was just super racist towards Koreans

Like, Aaron Sorkin did a Nick Mullen bit on primetime TV and it just skated by unscathed

Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

Trueanon JFK just dropped. Everyone go to sleep so you can be primed for some pilling tomorrow.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

i say swears online posted:

speaking of, goon project the worst wing is apparently still going with ~90 plays per ep on soundcloud

Is this The Worst Idea Of All Time but with a West Wing episode they watch over and over and if not why not?

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Worst Wing is also good, I'm one of those 90 listeners.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Finicums Wake posted:

maybe they're having fun making it :shrug:

They have to watch the west wing. I cannot imagine how much money I would need to be getting paid for that

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
if Gunshow Poophole wants to extend the show to The Newsroom after finishing West Wing I'm all for it

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

V. Illych L. posted:

BJG has been going progressively more insane as the biden admin has been rolling along, i suspect she's in a genuine sort of spiritual crisis at the moment and since it's her mission to try to find some plausible way forward for the american left she's taken it for granted that there must be some such way which works within the strictures of the formal american political system. she seems to be getting more frantic as she tries to avoid admitting that there probably isn't and that there's no such way forward within the time we have left before ecocide

I think she's just too online. She's always been extremely "plugged in" to whatever is trending on Twitter and what have you.

She's at least coming at things from a good perspective and is better than all the deranged anti-FTV people, but she really needs to detach some from these things.

Nothus posted:

Pair this with Virgil's obvious buyers remorse :discourse:

I feel like Virgil has some level of attachment to mainstream/serious politics/institutions and wanted to be a more "serious" politics talker than he can be with Chapo. It's why he's one of the two (I think?) Chapos with a blue check.

I haven't listened to much Bad Faith because it's not really funny and doesn't have enough actual interesting content to make up for that.

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

Virgil is not a chapo anymore, they didn’t even mention him on their 500th episode

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

Chapo never recovered from bernie

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
it was clear how things were gonna go after hearing virgil shouting some insanely cringe poo poo at the end of live show (las vegas?) before they all sang a song. he sounded unwell.

so his later disappearance was unsurprising

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Danger posted:

the buzzfeed guy wrote his thesis on A Thousand Plateaus lol

lmao

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

gradenko_2000 posted:

if Gunshow Poophole wants to extend the show to The Newsroom after finishing West Wing I'm all for it

please do this, you might as well continue pounding your hand with a hammer

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

A Russian troll farm posted:

Trueanon JFK just dropped. Everyone go to sleep so you can be primed for some pilling tomorrow.

nice. i feel like a JFK episode needs MSJ to show up at some point since his entire podcast is virtually all pynchon-beatnik JFK era but its a series so it'll be interesting to contrast between the 5-parter on death/corner.

the rose cherami story is insane

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Bootleg Trunks posted:

Chapo never recovered from bernie

nah, their immediate post-bernie loss moment was pretty bad but they've gotten better. in retrospect becoming bernie hour every week kinda stifled it if anything

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Halloween Jack posted:

Is there some straightforward argument that cuts through this bullshit, or is it like libertarians with the crony capitalism thing, where it's an article of religious faith?

I find repeatedly asking for more and more details and more and more clarification whenever they bring something up, really letting them get lost in the woods of details, especially when they use weaselly words like "capitalism" "socialism" "essence" etc. Sort of a reverse gish gallop, if you will, because if they're so smart and understand this so well, why can't they get you to understand it?

Doesn't work on everyone, but it at least lets everyone around listening "enjoy" the slow decline into inevitable racism.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



i say swears online posted:

i caught the end right after the goodbyes and the first thing destiny said was "he didn't let me talk :(" so lol

Even if Wolff was right about everything, he did interrupt Destiny a lot. Even the moderator admitted this after the debate and said he should have stepped in more.

NikkolasKing has issued a correction as of 06:51 on Apr 23, 2021

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

Slanderer posted:

it was clear how things were gonna go after hearing virgil shouting some insanely cringe poo poo at the end of live show (las vegas?) before they all sang a song. he sounded unwell.

so his later disappearance was unsurprising

i missed that hwat did he say

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

NikkolasKing posted:

Even if Wolff was right about everything, he did interrupt Destiny a lot. Even the moderator admitted this after the debate and said he should have stepped in more.

that the moderator was a living, breathing human who also felt the common courtesy not to start debating Wolff and Destiny is pretty much a golden standard here

tiberion02
Mar 26, 2007

People tend to make the common mistake of believing that a situation will last forever.

MonsieurChoc posted:

Worst Wing is also good, I'm one of those 90 listeners.

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studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

not allowing destiny to speak is a moral obligation

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