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Acerbatus posted:last I heard it totally shut down, huh. 4.73 was supposed to be the last patch, yeah. The most recent patch was like 3 weeks ago and was 4.91, so that clearly didn't happen lol
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Pryor on Fire posted:Puppet Master was fun, you could create a voodoo puppet attached to an enemy and attack the puppet which transferred all the damage, so your whole team would start beating the poo poo out of the puppet. There was a bug where if you overkilled it enough it deleted their hero from the game iirc
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Maliken was way cooler that dragon knight also rip deadwood, many more... Many.. chipper... I could go on for days. Rip. Just rip.
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Empath had like nothing super interesting about her kit but I can still spam her like 30 games in a row. HoN is only dead if you care about a game you were never going to go pro in not having an esports scene. Same with HotS. I find matches in both of those games seeking way less time than I spend in any of the esports mobas.
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I think there's some sort of Puppeteer coming to Dota, right? It's in Mars' voicelines and in some patch strings.
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The best part of HoN was that disco lady who could make everyone dance on a 70's dancefloor while they took damage Also Flint Beastwood's VA
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Syrinxx posted:The best part of HoN was that disco lady who could make everyone dance on a 70's dancefloor while they took damage That was a Rhapsody skin I think? Maybe it was her base skin.
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Hon sounds like this mystical weird entity from another dimension but then i didn't even really know about dota or lol till 2014 or so
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When I was a kid, Dota was the game that made it hard to find other wc3 custom maps because of how many lobbies it had .
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lobster22221 posted:When I was a kid, Dota was the game that made it hard to find other wc3 custom maps because of how many lobbies it had . I remember joining a wc3 dota game for the first time, immediately failing a quiz because I didn't know how much a tango or something cost, getting booted and then never touching the game again until I got into Dota 2 lol
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Hon sounds like this mystical weird entity from another dimension but then i didn't even really know about dota or lol till 2014 or so It was basically a way to play Dota with a ton of modern QoL updates (in terms of matchmaking, reconnecting to games, having an actual modern UI, etc.), but a worse community (yes really) and bad balance. It can be fun to play really dumb OP poo poo, which I think is why some people still have a soft spot for it, but as soon as Dota 2 was a thing, my friends and I never touched HoN again. It's also a great case study in why allowing players to vote on conceding a game and showing everyone's specific MMRs in the UI all the time are terrible ideas.
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HON during its heyday was the game you played if you wanted to test your resolve on how much toxicity you could handle in a videogame. Easily the most toxic community I've ever experienced in games. Counterstrike had nothing on it. Heck their own CEO got blasted for going off on a racist rampage. Now it's mostly Russians I think.
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Brosnan posted:It was basically a way to play Dota with a ton of modern QoL updates (in terms of matchmaking, reconnecting to games, having an actual modern UI, etc.), but a worse community (yes really) and bad balance. It can be fun to play really dumb OP poo poo, which I think is why some people still have a soft spot for it, but as soon as Dota 2 was a thing, my friends and I never touched HoN again. HoN was a game created so noted porn baron marc 'maliken' deforest could call people the n word and ban them if they fed. 
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You dont like ppl running down mid spamming CC at 15 bc your 1.2 KD isn't good enough to be carry?? Even tho you're 100 MMR higher than them (games were 5 mmr pts compared to dotas now 30)
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Buckwheat Sings posted:HON during its heyday was the game you played if you wanted to test your resolve on how much toxicity you could handle in a videogame. maliken  eat ur heart out gabe
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Buckwheat Sings posted:Heck their own CEO got blasted for going off on a racist rampage. which time lol
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It’s telling what we were willing to put up with in terms of the HoN toxicity in order to get basic quality of life things like matchmaking and a dedicated UI. When HoN came out I played it exclusively and never went back to wc3 DotA. Then DotA2 happened and I had to relearn all the heroes and items again. And the whole saga always makes me laugh at what a massive missed opportunity it was for Blizzard. What a fall from grace that company had going from the D3 hype and WoW domination to..... I guess they have Hearthstone and Overwatch now? bawfuls fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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WC3 dota talk has me wondering if wintermaul wars was actually good or not but i miss playing it either way
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HoN also had mod support so you could automate chat macros for maximum toxicity. It also had a votekick function, which you could use a mod to automatically trigger anytime a teammate died. There were some legit cool new heroes before the game tried to go F2P and started making GBS threads out a new hero every 2 weeks.
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Ironically the most anger inducing chat macros were the 'friendly advice' ones.
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HoN actually hasn't had a new hero added in forever, they've mostly just played around with balance for the last few years, plus a few overhauls for heroes that were just kinda poo poo in their original incarnation. I still play it from time to time, because it still has the best iteration of Mid Wars I've seen. They actually went out of their way to create an entirely new map for it instead of just slashing the side lanes off of the standard Dota/League layout. I also find it kinda impressive at how many notable people they got to make announcer packs. Three I can think of off the top of my head are Richard Ridings, Hatsune Miku and Samuel L Jackson. If I recall the last one was because Maliken is a big fan and just paid him a shitload of money to make it. Bloody Pom fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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ATP_Power posted:HoN also had mod support so you could automate chat macros for maximum toxicity. 
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Bloody Pom posted:I also find it kinda impressive at how many notable people they got to make announcer packs. Three I can think of off the top of my head are Richard Ridings, Hatsune Miku and Samuel L Jackson. If I recall the last one was because Maliken is a big fan and just paid him a shitload of money to make it.
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lol headliner i forgot all about that guy e: lol look at that fat as gently caress enigma bitch e2: oh wow rickonix, the original and master of the deprecated hero name meme. and zephyr, wow, the instawin hero for many patches. loved to get radiance and stack beef on that mfer Smythe fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Apr 23, 2021 |
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funny when goons rip on hon culture since it was beta player goons along with daggius and his drd freaks that shaped that games community. kids getting dumpstered left and right...
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The only MOBA (or A-RTS lol) I've played is Dota 2, and I can't fathom a community being more toxic than Dota. HON has to be insanely bad.
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Nichael posted:The only MOBA (or A-RTS lol) I've played is Dota 2, and I can't fathom a community being more toxic than Dota. HON has to be insanely bad. HoN actively encouraged that most of the time instead of kinda half-heartedly discouraging it like valve
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Acerbatus posted:HoN actively encouraged that most of the time instead of kinda half-heartedly discouraging it like valve
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Nichael posted:The only MOBA (or A-RTS lol) I've played is Dota 2, and I can't fathom a community being more toxic than Dota. HON has to be insanely bad. it was awesome. a game for trolls, by trolls. no mercy. 
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when hon and league came out all the little noobie carebears went to league to jack off to their anime girls and complain about deny mechanics as being unfun and stuns as being "non counterplay" mechanics or whatever, whereas all the real Gamer Men went to HoN to kick rear end and flame each other like a baws. it was the ultimate trammel vs felucca divide. based maliken even added the incredibly homophobic fabulous announcer pack and dumpster taunt to further troll and dominate your foes
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HoN was my first MOBA because I pirated WC3 and never looked much into custom maps or servers. Most of those lobbies/games ended up being weird Korean ARPGs where the other players only knew enough English to tell me they couldn't speak English and that I should play elsewhere (or gently caress off maybe, I don't remember). If I ever accidentally got into a Dota1 map, I definitely left after a few minutes of confusion, but I doubt I did. One friend still plays HoN a few times a year so I still have it installed and never run. Each time I go back for a game or two, the squirrely movement and faster turn rate drive me nuts and I hate every moment of it now. Some people call it fluid movement and love it though. I still skim the HoN subreddit a few times a month. ElementUser does the tiny patches and tweaks, and the community loves him for it. The dark days of WZA being a 1500 or lower ranked player doing the balance are long over (though I suck too much to tell the difference anyway). Annoyingly I think of HoN item names first and Dota names second because of the above. Andrigaar fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Apr 23, 2021 |
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What's the most casual mode to play dota on? I like the fast games of new player mode, but the limited hero pool is unfortunate. All random seems like fun, but if the games still take an hour, do I just want turbo mode instead?
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Yes, play turbo instead.
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To give you some idea of how HoN encouraged toxicity, it literally has a ragequit announcer line for disconnecting shortly after getting killed. And you can pay money to reset your stats and clear your disconnect percentage.
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hit your root and then one shot a noob with deadwood and just go lol
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Nichael posted:Valve's half-hearted discouragement results in threads like this where the OP is asking "hey maybe something can be done about this Nazi guilds?" and then there's tons of comments whining that they're too sensitive.    this is their CEO, and as mentioned there were cosmetics for making ppl ragequit, and landing taunts. All your stats were shown when you had your profile hovered. So you'd see everyons GPM/XPM/KDA, top heroes etc.
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hail to the king baby sugar free jazz posted:hit your root and then one shot a noob with deadwood and just go lol this
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