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go for a stroll
Sep 10, 2003

you'll never make it out alive







Pillbug
it seems likely that tor and some popular vpn services are compromised by various three letter agencies, but what does snowden dunking on the con artist have to do with it?

e: nevermind, I can't read. I thought the quote about snowden being fishy was part of the post.

e2: can't write either

go for a stroll has issued a correction as of 23:29 on Apr 24, 2021

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smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
reminds me of when sam hyde showed up at TED to poo poo on them for a half hour

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
here's some red meat for this thread, what even in the world?

https://www.kentik.com/blog/the-mystery-of-as8003/

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Ace of Baes posted:

He agreed to take the money and speak just so he could call out the guy running it as a con man running a ponzi scheme and ruined the guys event.

:nsallears:

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

smarxist posted:

here's some red meat for this thread, what even in the world?

https://www.kentik.com/blog/the-mystery-of-as8003/

My money is on the awakening of the internet meta-intelligence, heralding the Technological Singularity.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

smarxist posted:

reminds me of when sam hyde showed up at TED to poo poo on them for a half hour

I would see this

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Inspector Hound posted:

I would see this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cflCyyEA2I

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

it really does suck his brain turned to putty. this poo poo is still so good.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

go for a stroll posted:

it seems likely that tor and some popular vpn services are compromised by various three letter agencies, but what does snowden dunking on the con artist?

e: nevermind, I can't read. I thought the quote about snowden being fishy was part of the post.

TOR was literally created by the US Naval Research Laboratory lol

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

go for a stroll posted:

it seems likely that tor and some popular vpn services are compromised by various three letter agencies, but what does snowden dunking on the con artist?

e: nevermind, I can't read. I thought the quote about snowden being fishy was part of the post.

does epstein thread have a VPN that anyone would recommend?

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Marzzle posted:

does epstein thread have a VPN that anyone would recommend?

no, and i would specifically avoid any that anyone recommends

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

*quickly googles “worst vpn”*

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Just put your browser on private

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

nothing you do on the internet is private and even if it is you should assume future technology will make it no longer private

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

inferis posted:

no, and i would specifically avoid any that anyone recommends

epstein thread compromised by nordvpn referral bots

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

I'm very freaked out by this

https://www.un.org/africarenewal/magazine/february-2021/african-countries-embracing-biometrics-digital-ids

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

inferis posted:

nothing you do on the internet is private and even if it is you should assume future technology will make it no longer private

There's going to be some kind of horrifying "use this trick to find all the porn your parents watched as teenagers" thing I can feel it

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

https://privacyinternational.org/news-analysis/4290/heres-how-well-connected-security-company-quietly-building-mass-biometric

inferis
Dec 30, 2003


one company has 27% of global cell phone users’ fingerprints and or facial scans and they are the one that’s most invested in a public image of respecting users privacy

go for a stroll
Sep 10, 2003

you'll never make it out alive







Pillbug
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nut
Jul 30, 2019

cold case hammarskjold just killed me

Jack Ketch
Jul 5, 2005

:getin:
Lipstick Apathy

nut posted:

cold case hammarskjold just killed me

I just watched it yesterday and it's still sticking with me.

raspurtin
Apr 18, 2005

I remember back in the late 1990s or 2000s hearing about the terrible AIDS crisis in Africa, like Time cover articles, 60 minutes stories, etc. Most of the problem was attributed to lack of education and services, but they always would liberally sprinkle in references to "local traditions" and superstitions. To think now that it might actually have been caused (or exacerbated) by white Africans deliberately infecting people is just mind boggling.

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

raspurtin posted:

I remember back in the late 1990s or 2000s hearing about the terrible AIDS crisis in Africa, like Time cover articles, 60 minutes stories, etc. Most of the problem was attributed to lack of education and services, but they always would liberally sprinkle in references to "local traditions" and superstitions. To think now that it might actually have been caused (or exacerbated) by white Africans deliberately infecting people is just mind boggling.

lack of education, local traditions and superstitions are literally why people don’t get vaccinated in the us

nut
Jul 30, 2019

between cold case and a noble lie, you really see how important corporate news coverage and national policing displacing local sources is to burying a story. In both, seemingly everyone around knows something was wrong to an extent where it almost comes across as mundane.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop


lol'ing at the tone difference between these two articles



This is apparently what a dead eyed psychopath in tech looks like

e: Watch him, I predict this guy will move way up in the world

Happy Thread has issued a correction as of 02:20 on Apr 25, 2021

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Marzzle posted:

does epstein thread have a VPN that anyone would recommend?

Probably any Chinese-owned VPN company. Every time you see the US congress or senators or any US-owned media crying about Chinese apps spying on you they mean "Please don't use these apps because we have a hard time spying on you if you do." Unless you are a Chinese national or travel to China frequently or something you have zero reason to care about the CCP lookin' over your shoulder, at least compared to any US-based service, who could potentially leverage your data against you.

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!

no, my son is also named Finbarr Toesland

smarxist posted:

here's some red meat for this thread, what even in the world?

https://www.kentik.com/blog/the-mystery-of-as8003/

I'm not a nerd, what does this mean? napkin math says the DOD is collecting half a petabyte (and growing) of random internet poo poo every second, up from ~1 gigabyte per second at the start of the year? a 500,000x increase??? Whyyyyy, like, why now?

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Mola Yam posted:

I'm not a nerd, what does this mean? napkin math says the DOD is collecting half a petabyte (and growing) of random internet poo poo every second, up from ~1 gigabyte per second at the start of the year? a 500,000x increase??? Whyyyyy, like, why now?

There are a finite number of addresses possible on the internet. For IPv4 it's a pretty small number (in fact they ran out). A big portion of the addresses were reserved all this time by the Department of Defense but were "unused", until mysteriously they all woke up three minutes before the Biden election power changeover.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
the boring reason given sounds like cyber warfare sabre rattling lol

quote:

Defense Digital Service (DDS) authorized a pilot effort advertising DoD Internet Protocol (IP) space using Border Gateway Protocol (BGP). This pilot will assess, evaluate and prevent unauthorized use of DoD IP address space. Additionally, this pilot may identify potential vulnerabilities. This is one of DoD’s many efforts focused on continually improving our cyber posture and defense in response to advanced persistent threats. We are partnering throughout DoD to ensure potential vulnerabilities are mitigated.

"hey we're still out here and own these, bitch"

this is the curious bit:

quote:

On the second, there is a lot of background noise that can be scooped up when announcing large ranges of IPv4 address space. A recent example is Cloudflare’s announcement of 1.1.1.0/24 and 1.0.0.0/24 in 2018.

For decades, internet routing operated with a widespread assumption that ASes didn’t route these prefixes on the internet (perhaps because they were canonical examples from networking textbooks). According to their blog post soon after the launch, Cloudflare received “~10Gbps of unsolicited background traffic” on their interfaces.

And that was just for 512 IPv4 addresses! Of course, those addresses were very special, but it stands to reason that 175 million IPv4 addresses will attract orders of magnitude more traffic. More misconfigured devices and networks that mistakenly assumed that all of this DoD address space would never see the light of day.

so basically, billions of devices may be set to either ping or in some fashion interact with these dormant ip ranges and when they lit up the DoD received billions of interesting little bits of information to sift through which may not be what anyone intended to happen, and could lead to something. what? i'onno!

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Mola Yam posted:

Whyyyyy, like, why now?

How many articles have been posted in the last couple of pages (and in the Cool Zone thead) about the pentagon bringing the war on terror home against "domestic extremists" i.e. anyone who looks even remotely like they want to protest the deep austerity that's coming down the pipe and the cops that are so blood thirsty they make Robocop look like Sesame Street?

The just had to get the liberals on board, and the mouth-breathers that stormed the capital helped out with that a lot.

Now they're just building out the infrastructure.

The Atomic Man-Boy has issued a correction as of 03:35 on Apr 25, 2021

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

smarxist posted:

so basically, billions of devices may be set to either ping or in some fashion interact with these dormant ip ranges and when they lit up the DoD received billions of interesting little bits of information to sift through which may not be what anyone intended to happen, and could lead to something. what? i'onno!

Happy Thread posted:

An undocumented chip on computers sold to run it (any computer at all, too) was allegedly capable of turning the power lines to it into an antenna. The chip slowly drew ambient power from the board to remain undetected, then released/leaked its data in a burst upon an external signal. The data could be i.e. key logs from the bus the keyboard is on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROMIS_(software)

quote:

A book written in 1997 by Fabrizio Calvi and Thierry Pfister claimed that the National Security Agency (NSA) had been "seeding computers abroad with PROMIS-embedded SMART (Systems Management Automated Reasoning Tools) chips, code-named Petrie, capable of covertly downloading data and transmitting it, using electrical wiring as an antenna, to U.S. intelligence satellites" as part of an espionage operation.[1]

https://web.archive.org/web/2020092...-danny-casolaro

quote:

An NSA integrated circuit manufacturing facility in the Silicon Valley allegedly produced the “Petrie Chip” which the CIA contractor covertly inserted into the computers equipped with the PROMIS software.

These turnkey systems were allegedly sold to foreign intelligence and law enforcement agencies and banks through cutout companies.

The Petrie Chip allegedly replaced an identical-looking integrated circuit and consumed an identical amount of power, making it virtually impossible to discover its presence in the computer.

The Petrie Chip allegedly automatically copied data tracked in the PROMIS system and periodically transmitted the data to a local NSA listening device, defeating any Tempest Shield-type protections.

Our friend cuppy seems to have read about this at some point, because I first heard about the concept from them, of computers designed to leak data even when unpowered.

Ghislaine of YOSPOS
Apr 19, 2020

Happy Thread posted:

https://web.archive.org/web/2020092...-danny-casolaro


Our friend cuppy seems to have read about this at some point, because I first heard about the concept from them, of computers designed to leak data even when unpowered.
[/quote]

drat, it's almost as though cuppy was right

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:


drat, it's almost as though cuppy was right

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

Probably any Chinese-owned VPN company. Every time you see the US congress or senators or any US-owned media crying about Chinese apps spying on you they mean "Please don't use these apps because we have a hard time spying on you if you do." Unless you are a Chinese national or travel to China frequently or something you have zero reason to care about the CCP lookin' over your shoulder, at least compared to any US-based service, who could potentially leverage your data against you.

I’ve had a good experience with HK-based BlackVPN back in 2013, sounds like they’re still OK.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

mdemone posted:

heck, if we wanna do JFK then I will absolutely do this. I'm fresh off McVeigh and my mind is destroyed.

I just started "Dallas 63: The First Deep State Revolt" by Peter Dale Scott and one of the first things he gets into is that there was a tape of someone identifying themselves as "Lee Oswald" on the phone with someone at the Soviet embassy in Mexico City

The FBI knew that the call was fake, but they let the CIA know that the tape existed, knowing that the CIA would suppress all knowledge of it, in order to protect the source: that the Soviet embassy was being wiretapped in the first place

And that's exactly what the CIA did, and the overall effect was that the Warren Commission didn't know of the tape, or of the attempt to suppress the tape, and so even if the tape was fake, its existence would have been important just for the fact that it meant there was a conspiracy surrounding Oswald and JFK even before the assassination happened

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

And so once again we return to the Gangster Octopus. We should talk about how PROMIS was adapted and successor programs inspired by its abilities.

nut
Jul 30, 2019

gh0stpinballa posted:

And so once again we return to the Gangster Octopus. We should talk about how PROMIS was adapted and successor programs inspired by its abilities.

I was trying to find links between PROMIS and CODIS (the latter being the Combined DNA Index System, the FBI's genetic database) but all I found was some proposal from the netherlands forensic institute for programs called Napoleon and Bonaparte that very briefly mentioning making programs compatible with both

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

quote:

Consequently, long before the Intifada, Jordan had become a proving ground for Mossad to develop its electronic skills. In the 1970s, Mossad technicians had tapped into the computer IBM had sold to the country's military intelligence service. The information gained had supplemented that provided by the deep-cover katsa Rafi Eitan had placed inside King Hussein's palace. Promis would offer much more.

To sell it directly to Jordan was impossible because normal business links between both countries were still some years away. Instead, Earl Brian's company, Hadron, made the deal. When the company's computer experts installed the program in Amman's military headquarters, they discovered the Jordanians had a French-designed system to track the movements of PLO leaders. Promis was secretly wired into the French system. In Tel Aviv, Rafi Eitan soon saw results as the trapdoor showed which PLO leaders the Jordanians were tracking.

The next stage was to prepare the sales pitch for Promis. Yasser Arafat was selected as the ideal example. The PLO chairman was renowned for being security-conscious; he constantly changed his plans, never slept in the same bed two nights in succession, altered his mealtimes at the last moment.

Whenever Arafat moved, the details were entered on a secure PLO computer. But Promis could hack into its defenses to discover what aliases and false passports he was using. Promis could obtain his phone bills and check the numbers called. It would then cross-check those with other calls made from those numbers. In that way, Promis would have a "picture" of Arafat's communications.

On a trip he would inform the local security authorities of his presence, and steps would be taken to provide protection. Promis could obtain the details by interdicting police computers. Wherever he went, Yasser Arafat would be unable to hide from Promis.

Rafi Eitan realized that neither Earl Brian nor his company had the resources to market Promis globally. That would require someone with superb international contacts, boundless energy, and proven negotiating skills. There was only one man Rafi Eitan knew who had those requirements: Robert Maxwell.

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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

gh0stpinballa posted:

And so once again we return to the Gangster Octopus. We should talk about how PROMIS was adapted and successor programs inspired by its abilities.

when I think about successor programs to promis I can’t help but think of oracle

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