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Apr 26, 2021 12:25
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Josef bugman posted:So I'm planning on reforming the Norse Faith. Is there way to keep Blots and not have the human sacrifice?
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Apr 26, 2021 12:37
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Just choose the no-human-sacrifice option every time and pretend the others don't exist. I've held a lot of blots, had lots of prisoners every time, and never got a prompt for a chief sacrifice. I haven't noticed any prisoners dying in the blot at all, but I may have missed that. Do I need some special kind of prisoner?
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Apr 26, 2021 12:45
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When will we get the völsablót DLC?  I guess if you work in s nunnery
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Apr 26, 2021 12:46
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this is the völsi blót of good fortune. you must post "May Mörnir receive the holy sacrifice!" or you will be blood eagle'd within the year!
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Apr 26, 2021 13:09
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Azhais posted:Blot literally means "blood sacrifice" I mean I am fine sacrificing a tonne of horses/cows/sheep/pigs. Because there is good eating on them. It'll just have to be roleplaying, well I am cool with that. Plan is to have my 76 year old King of Norgr do a mass sacrifice and then have a sudden shacking awareness of all the murder he's done and reform the faith. Kind of like Ashoka but more personal.
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Apr 26, 2021 13:16
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pidan posted:I've held a lot of blots, had lots of prisoners every time, and never got a prompt for a chief sacrifice. I haven't noticed any prisoners dying in the blot at all, but I may have missed that. Do I need some special kind of prisoner? There isn't a prompt, you have to (after choosing an option for human sacrifice from the blot planning event) manually go to your prison and designate a single prisoner as Chief Sacrifice (it'll be an interaction option in their right click menu). I THINK this is mentioned in the tooltip for that event option but I can't remember.
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Apr 26, 2021 15:51
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Dallan Invictus posted:There isn't a prompt, you have to (after choosing an option for human sacrifice from the blot planning event) manually go to your prison and designate a single prisoner as Chief Sacrifice (it'll be an interaction option in their right click menu). Ah, nice, thanks! I'll try that at my next blot.
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Apr 26, 2021 16:01
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Becoming Caliph was a huge mistake. It overwrote all my succession laws and generally screwed with my entire realm. Also, my idiot grandson and first son's only son went and converted to Ibadism and now I have to decide whether to let my new character's brother succeed and play a string of old guys or to just give the Caliphate to my other brother with 33 learning.
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Apr 26, 2021 16:09
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For the people who try playing small, do you find there's enough to do when you choose not to grow your realm beyond reasonable borders? Like, are there enough things going on within your borders? The idea of this appeals to me a lot more than painting the map, I'm just not sure what you actually do if you aren't pressing claims and raising your armies all the time to see your number go up. I'd like to poke around in my vassals' courts and stuff, but it doesn't seem like anything happening there would be especially impactful, unless I'm missing something. I suppose you can always turn the speed up really fast if nothing much is going on, and focus on technology and buildings. I always want a dozen more active decisions to make, you'd think there would be mods that add more than the typical feast, pilgrimage and hunt.
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Apr 26, 2021 16:13
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When I play small, I usually make sure I start as a vassal to somewhere bigger. If I dislike my liege, it gives me ample opportunity to make him miserable. If I like him, I spend a lot of time making sure they're successful.
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Apr 26, 2021 16:24
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Lately, I have taken great joy from loving with France. They had a boy emperor ascend to the throne, and one of the first things he did was imprison and kill his strongest vassal, which of course makes that vassal's son hate him. So for decades I have taken a territory here or there to try and clean some of these borders and I just undid all of that by Holy Warring for Poitou since it's like, the one duchy I could take that will most throw their entire empire into chaos.
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Apr 26, 2021 16:25
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:When I play small, I usually make sure I start as a vassal to somewhere bigger. If I dislike my liege, it gives me ample opportunity to make him miserable. If I like him, I spend a lot of time making sure they're successful. Yeah this is pretty much my goal. And do my best to use partition to spread my dynasty within the realm.
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Apr 26, 2021 17:49
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Internal management is still a bit weak (and you'd think there'd be mods for a greater variety of schemes or slice-of-life decisions but, alas, not yet). Setting a goal of realm development and building and keeping the plates spinning long enough for that to happen is one thing (though if you're big enough that there are no internal or external threats to interrupt this -- which is very easy to accomplish! -- then it's just Number Go Up which gets dull), but there's also managing the external situation - if you're a vassal, manipulating or supporting your liege or other characters you like within the realm. If you're independent and done expanding, scheme to advance your dynasty or religion by planting random relatives on indepedent foreign thrones via inheritance and/or various scales of murder. Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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Apr 26, 2021 19:28
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Is there a way (or good mods for) vassal contract management en masse? Getting tired of some random duke catapulting themselves on the council because of a weak hook on my heir as soon they inherit and want to be able to review all vassal contracts (and ideally standardize them on Scutage / Forced Partition with high taxes and low levies). This might be a pain point just because I'm a massive Empire at this point in the game.
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Apr 26, 2021 20:02
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Not in Vanilla, no. One more feature I'd love to see is more involvement with the council. Like why did you agree to the independence of half of Aquitaine there King? Would love to have had the chance to encourage him to fight, in exchange for backing him up in said fight.
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Apr 26, 2021 22:24
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I haven't played since launch because I get distracted easily. Did they fix the AI tendency of making non-matrinileal marriages even if your culture favours women rulers?
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Apr 27, 2021 07:48
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Yes. If anything they are now overly aggressive about it.
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Apr 27, 2021 08:28
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When reforming a religion, is there any reason to pick Pursuit of Power over Warmonger and Gruesome Festivals over Human Sacrifice? From looking at them, they do the same thing but the first gives vassal relation penalties and the second is missing the raid for captives casus belli so I'm not quite sure what the point of them is.
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Apr 27, 2021 10:37
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-50% Tyranny Gain and not *having* to be at war? But also PoP can be taken by Cristians while Warmonger can't, I think is the main thrust of it.
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Apr 27, 2021 12:06
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Serephina posted:not *having* to be at war? Does not compute.
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Apr 27, 2021 12:08
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Fat Samurai posted:Does not compute. I'd say the warmonger penalties are more about if you want your vassals to be somewhat stable and not have massive popular opinion penalties all the time. Weak AI vassals simply don't wage war often enough to keep the warmonger penalties away, especially if you have crown authority 3/4.
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Apr 27, 2021 13:46
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Asehujiko posted:When reforming a religion, is there any reason to pick Pursuit of Power over Warmonger and Gruesome Festivals over Human Sacrifice? Gruesome Festivals allows Blots (but somehow it's available for non-Norse faiths so presumably they, like, rename the decision/event or something). I'm honestly not convinced that it removing the Raid for Captives CB wasn't an oversight but until then I guess that's just the trade. For pursuit of power - yeah, basically if you have access to Warmonger then you're basically trading off GHWs, Berserkers, and less revolts while you paint the map for "cheaper titles, less tyranny, and making Ambitious a virtue" so....
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Apr 27, 2021 14:34
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Another summer patch preview DD. This time more childhood/lifestyle events, which seems like a universally good thing. After the varying degrees of mess from the last couple EU4 and to a lesser extent Stellaris releases I’m increasingly happy they’re seemingly taking their time with CK3 stuff so far.
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Apr 27, 2021 15:12
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I don't remember who posted about the Pillaging legacy being nice, but they weren't kidding. You gain so much prestige/fame that it kind of breaks the game as a tribe. This was one of several battles I had where the enemy kept throwing their army into mine, giving me well over 1k fame each time. I'm halfway to the legacy that gives you gold for kills, which is going to fuel my conversion to feudal and endless retinues. 
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Apr 27, 2021 19:35
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Yeah, it's super strong, and makes me hopeful for more culture- or region-exclusive legacy trees. Going from playing Norse to playing as Mongolian just feels so empty without the insane prestige gains from fights and money from kills.
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Apr 27, 2021 20:39
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so when’s the best time to feudalize/clanize? is it just when you have lots and lots of gold
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Apr 27, 2021 22:42
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The best time to feudalize is as soon as you can. Only reason to wait is to build up a bunch of gold.
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Apr 27, 2021 22:50
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Raskolnikov38 posted:so when’s the best time to feudalize/clanize? is it just when you have lots and lots of gold It's whenever you feel like you can support the number of MaA you were able to build cheap with prestige. You'll gain a random castle building for every building you have in your tribes, so I personally wait until I don't have any active construction. PittTheElder posted:The best time to feudalize is as soon as you can. Only reason to wait is to build up a bunch of gold. Basically, yeah. If you have several hundred MaA and aren't in immediate danger from one of your neighbors, mash that feudalize button.
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Apr 28, 2021 03:41
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How do you guys handle king titles? Playing as Norse, I've managed to form my own Empire/Kingdom in England, form Brittinia Empire out of the remaining dejure counties and now have just finished Scandinavia. With the exception of Sweden where I used a Vassalization war, I hold all titles of King or above (and apparently too many duchies as well) I was trying to scrounge up enough Fame to institute the Scandinavian Elective law for the Swedish throne but is it really worth it? If you were me, would you be giving away a lot of those thrones to family members? Would you destroy the titles?
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Apr 28, 2021 15:32
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Kris xK posted:How do you guys handle king titles? Playing as Norse, I've managed to form my own Empire/Kingdom in England, form Brittinia Empire out of the remaining dejure counties and now have just finished Scandinavia. With the exception of Sweden where I used a Vassalization war, I hold all titles of King or above (and apparently too many duchies as well) Depends on the situation, but destroying the titles won't help you if you're in Confederate Partition. Generally I just don't try to get a lot of king titles if I'm still in Confederate Partition, and if I do I'll just roll with it and let them get handed out or hand them out pre-emptively. Elective titles can help keep them together, and I did manage to handle the North Sea Empire for a few successions this way until I was able to feudalize (on the path to reaching the decision), but you do need to pay attention to it. If you're in Partition, I tend to just destroy all but one kingdom title until I reach single-heir succession. Recently I've also been using feudal elective on my duchies to make sure they go to my primary heir.
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Apr 28, 2021 15:54
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Magil Zeal posted:Depends on the situation, but destroying the titles won't help you if you're in Confederate Partition. Generally I just don't try to get a lot of king titles if I'm still in Confederate Partition, and if I do I'll just roll with it and let them get handed out or hand them out pre-emptively. Elective titles can help keep them together, and I did manage to handle the North Sea Empire for a few successions this way until I was able to feudalize (on the path to reaching the decision), but you do need to pay attention to it. Yeah Sorry I totally didnt give enough info. While I am in Partition, I've been able to fire that decision to institute the "old laws" (Scandinavian Elective) for what seems to be most of my titles. So it terms of actually losing titles, I'm okay and not in danger (right now at least). I was more curious if people actually give out King titles or if they horde them all like me.
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Apr 28, 2021 16:02
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Kris xK posted:Yeah Sorry I totally didnt give enough info. While I am in Partition, I've been able to fire that decision to institute the "old laws" (Scandinavian Elective) for what seems to be most of my titles. So it terms of actually losing titles, I'm okay and not in danger (right now at least). Speaking personally, I give out king titles when I need to in order to stay under the vassal limit, as when I have a big empire that seems inevitable, even if I don't expand my vassals will. Otherwise I keep duke-level vassals as long as possible because king vassals don't tend to give much in taxes. Unless they're one-duchy kingdoms like Brittany or those islands below Anatolia, I just give those out.
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Apr 28, 2021 16:11
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Similar boat / different question -- I started a Norse game and am currently trying to form North Sea (almost have all the land). I have Norway/Sweden/Denmark all on Scandinavian Elective -- right now my brother is the top vote getter, not my preferred heir. But that's fine I guess? I haven't usurped England yet -- I assume I'll be able to make it Scandinavian Elective too once I do? Q: When should I form North Sea? As soon as I can? Should I form a custom empire at the same time so I can have two top tier titles and try to use Scandinavian Elective for both? (I'm trying to use the multiple elective titles approach outlined in this post from a while back) .. Separately, once I form I plan to try to grow tall as the North Sea and not expand further (got my WC kicks by forming a huge Roman Empire last game, and don't want to do that again). Any tips or advice for things to focus on when trying to grow tall? Thus far this Norse game has been pretty fun -- managed to defeat a Crusade for England that triggered almost immediately after I conquered England.
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Apr 28, 2021 16:54
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alcaras posted:Similar boat / different question -- I started a Norse game and am currently trying to form North Sea (almost have all the land). You need to be a king to form the north sea empire. Scandinavian Elective for large titles is incredibly difficult to control because every direct and indirect vassal under the title gets a vote, and they can have really large voting power because of popular opinion bonuses. I would keep one big empire title without elective, and your duchy titles with elective.
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Apr 28, 2021 17:02
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I just realized I'm stilling using Confederate Partition in my huge-rear end late feudal Russian Empire. I've gotten so used to my coping strategy of a) seeding my dynasty as far and wide as I can ALL THE TIME for maximum renown gains (I peaked at +30/month or so this run, but its fallen down to +20 at this point) b) prioritizing the ability to Embrace Celibacy so I can stop banging once I got enough heirs (or if I'm blocked due to Eager Reveler, marrying old and infertile women) and then c) strategic use of Disinherit and Restore Inheritance to guide the path of inheritance. Once I intentionally disinherited ALL my sons so my Genius, Hale, Comely daughter could gain the throne and I could use the Strengthen the Bloodline decision for my first time in 300+ hours of gameplay. It's wild how healthy my dynasty is now. Tsar Rurik III 'the Scholar' of Kievan Rus' still has Good health at 66, while his heir, Prince Rurik, is somehow not dead of leprosy after catching it at age 45 (thankfully before he sired grandchildren). My grandson, Rurik, went and gave me an heir I'm very excited to play as: Rurik, my Great-grandson, who's Herculean, Genius, and Handsome. Look at this sweet little guy. 
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Apr 28, 2021 17:06
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alcaras posted:Similar boat / different question -- I started a Norse game and am currently trying to form North Sea (almost have all the land). The North Sea empire decision can be a PITA to meet the requirements for (particularly one ruler lifetime ruling all three kingdoms for 30 years). So I'd take it as soon as I can.
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Apr 28, 2021 17:07
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Magil Zeal posted:The North Sea empire decision can be a PITA to meet the requirements for (particularly one ruler lifetime ruling all three kingdoms for 30 years). So I'd take it as soon as I can. 100% this. I've yet to manage it because I've never had anyone last long enough.
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Apr 28, 2021 17:50
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After successfully forming the High Kingdom of the North Sea in one game, I'm now on another going for King of All the Isles. Started up in Iceland, and as my first ruler is hitting his late 60s I've managed to grab those North Sea islands, a bit of Scottish island, Sjaelland, and a couple of islands in the Baltic. Then I formed a Kingdom and I think I'm in a good spot to continue. There's tons more to do, and I suspect this is going to be a much harder achievement to get since you can't ever let your realm size go over 80. I can see there are going to be a ton of powerful kingdoms adjacent to all my little islands. Anybody done this one yet?
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Apr 28, 2021 18:56
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Oof, my kingdoms split because my 66 year old decided to keel over. My heir has Norway/Denmark but doesn't have Swedengland (not the heir I wanted, I was trying to get my genius/beautiful 13 year old daughter onto the throne, which might have been a bridge too far). And still had a high Tyranny bonus from breaking up a super duke (he had four dukedoms! four!). I guess I didn't do Scandinavian Elective properly -- I suppose keeping the titles unified and within my dynasty is a priority over getting Just the Right Heir. Now to put the pieces back together... .. Dumb q: If I have a truce with someone after a war, I can't raid them, right? It doesn't seem to say this anywhere, I had raiders on holdings and nothing was happening which was confusing to me :-/ But I think it would have had to have been truce? .. Separately, I think I'm going to not take the Blood Lineage in games going forward unless I'm minmaxing -- it's way too strong. By the end of my last game I had everyone in my dynasty be Genius/Beautiful/Herculean which was a bit insane. alcaras fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 19:04
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