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The Bloop posted:look at the back of his head. unless he is literally an alien, that's his real hair stuffed into a bald cap You're just jealous that you will never look as good as a man who became famous for polka parody songs.
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Apr 26, 2021 21:57
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ubachung posted:That doesn't look like a bald cap to me. I'd imagine it's straightened (or at least un-permed) & wet down to fit. Check out Weird Al's head bulge 
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Apr 26, 2021 21:57
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Killer robot posted:The world is not ready for NormAl.
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Apr 26, 2021 21:59
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mdemone posted:You're just jealous that you will never look as good as a man who became famous for polka parody songs. I definitely never will, nor be as talented or rich but I don't begrudge him at all because he appears to be a genuine great person
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Apr 26, 2021 22:04
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The Bloop posted:I definitely never will, nor be as talented or rich but I don't begrudge him at all because he appears to be a genuine great person the last time i saw weird al mentioned on the forums someone else jumped in to condemn him and then refused to explain why when i attempted to determine what anyone could possibly have against him the only thing i managed to find was a minor copyright dispute from 10 years ago
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Apr 26, 2021 22:11
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But... my head looked like that when I shaved it 
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Apr 26, 2021 22:15
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And in the sequel, they fight over Penelope Cruz
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Apr 26, 2021 22:16
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I’ve watched dumber movies.
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Apr 26, 2021 22:18
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How does Ted Cruz work into the story?
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Apr 26, 2021 22:19
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Zil posted:How does Ted Cruz work into the story? keelhauled
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Zil posted:How does Ted Cruz work into the story? One ship is going to Cancun?
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Apr 26, 2021 22:24
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Memento posted:Ahh, here it is  I mean, it's possible he's never touched them but I'd be surprised. I'd actually be interested in the timeframe involved; whether it was within a year like those dead-giveaway actor transformations or over a much more reasonable length of time, but IDK man, those delts say 'AAS' more than they say 'modest'. A lot more people than you'd expect are using at his age (TRT counts), and I wouldn't put it past him. He's no stranger to needles, after all. Mister Speaker has a new favorite as of 22:59 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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Apr 26, 2021 22:43
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Apr 26, 2021 22:46
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Niric posted:Cruise's cruise crews Crews's cruise crews cruise cruise Crews's cruise crews The plot just writes its self
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Apr 26, 2021 22:57
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Mister Speaker posted:
He was a skinny dude in the early 90s because of heroin. Then in the late 90s he looked actually pretty decent, regular fit guy who took care of himself. Then he took three years off, twice, and came back well muscled both times. Three years of eating right and training and (probably more importantly) getting professional, expensive nutrition and dieting advice could get basically anyone to where he was. Clearly Tom Hardy and Kumail Nanjiani took the easy way, but people like Trent Reznor and Rob McElhenney (who looked insanely good after he did the Fit Mac transformation) I think you can give the benefit of the doubt. Taking the time and paying for the professional help goes a long way.
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Apr 26, 2021 22:58
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cock hero flux posted:the last time i saw weird al mentioned on the forums someone else jumped in to condemn him and then refused to explain why I think the only time outside that copyright dispute that I heard anyone bash Weird Al was during the whole Amish Paradise song like 20+ years ago. Even with that, I'm pretty sure Al & Coolio hashed out whatever misunderstanding they had & are friends now, because honestly, who couldn't or wouldn't be friends with The Weird One?
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Apr 26, 2021 23:03
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Memento posted:Clearly Tom Hardy and Kumail Nanjiani took the easy way, but people like Trent Reznor and Rob McElhenney (who looked insanely good after he did the Fit Mac transformation) I think you can give the benefit of the doubt. Taking the time and paying for the professional help goes a long way. mcelhenny posted about how even as a wealthy person who had the resources to pay a trainer, work out all day, and whose actual job as an actor it was to get really cut as a joke - it was still a huge amount of work and he never would have gotten that fit if it weren't for the fact that he was wealthy, had plenty of time, and in fact had to get fit as part of his job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPOzOanrNyg&t=75s Mr. Fall Down Terror has a new favorite as of 23:09 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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Apr 26, 2021 23:07
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Memento posted:He was a skinny dude in the early 90s because of heroin. Then in the late 90s he looked actually pretty decent, regular fit guy who took care of himself. Then he took three years off, twice, and came back well muscled both times. Three years of eating right and training and (probably more importantly) getting professional, expensive nutrition and dieting advice could get basically anyone to where he was. Calling gear "the easy way" betrays a bit of a misunderstanding of how it works, but OK. Like I said, I'd be interested in the timeframes involved because that's always the biggest tell - but some of the physical cues (namely the shoulders as I mentioned) strongly suggest there's something more going on than just clean eating and a personal trainer. People who don't know how AAS really works often think that when someone says "needles were involved," they're saying "they didn't work hard," and understandably they take that as a knock against their beloved actor/musician/etc. I'm not saying McIlhenney (who absolutely used, he all but admitted it in an AMA or interview somewhere) didn't work as hard as he possibly could, he definitely did that... he also used. Sorry my joke about your favourite musician's familiarity with drugs didn't land though. Here's a funny picture:  EDIT: gently caress me, I can't believe I didn't say they were "the perfect drug." Mister Speaker has a new favorite as of 23:23 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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Apr 26, 2021 23:10
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All the rich people have hair and muscles wonder what it could be. There are also plenty of regular rear end dudes walking around with python arms that are not loving possible without crazy amounts of nutrition and lifting and drugs. Celebs just got access to the best of all 3. Just makes being a lean jacked guy without hitting the juice all that much more impressive 
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Apr 26, 2021 23:21
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Niric posted:Cruise's cruise crews Crews's cruise crews cruise cruise Crews's cruise crews
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Apr 26, 2021 23:26
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Mister Speaker posted:I'm not saying McIlhenney (who absolutely used, he all but admitted it in an AMA or interview somewhere) didn't work as hard as he possibly could, he definitely did that... he also used. Yeah he all but admitted that he used in an interview with Stephen Colbert. It is easier to build muscle with steroids than without though--that is an absolute fact. It is the easy way to build muscle.
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Apr 26, 2021 23:26
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My uneducated understanding is steroids allow you to work harder for longer. I personally would only say it's cheating if it's a competitive sport and not everyone is using. But getting cut like that and keeping it has to just become your new (only)hobby id imagine.
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Apr 26, 2021 23:30
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Yea it’s the definition of the easy way. No ones saying it takes zero effort, but it is exponentially easier. It’s the easiest way.
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Apr 26, 2021 23:31
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Nuts and Gum posted:My uneducated understanding is steroids allow you to work harder for longer. I personally would only say it's cheating if it's a competitive sport and not everyone is using. But getting cut like that and keeping it has to just become your new (only)hobby id imagine. But honestly who cares? Like you said, acting isn't a competitive sport. Might as well complain that they're using CGI to "cheat" - the general presumption should be that nothing about TV or movies is real in the first place.
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Apr 26, 2021 23:38
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Mister Speaker posted:Calling gear "the easy way" betrays a bit of a misunderstanding of how it works, but OK. Like I said, I'd be interested in the timeframes involved because that's always the biggest tell - but some of the physical cues (namely the shoulders as I mentioned) strongly suggest there's something more going on than just clean eating and a personal trainer. People who don't know how AAS really works often think that when someone says "needles were involved," they're saying "they didn't work hard," and understandably they take that as a knock against their beloved actor/musician/etc. I'm not saying McIlhenney (who absolutely used, he all but admitted it in an AMA or interview somewhere) didn't work as hard as he possibly could, he definitely did that... he also used. I'm not making this any manner of judgement call here, I don't think anyone is a Bad Person for doing PEDs to get a leg up, and especially in Hollywood where actors have insanely unrealistic expectations of what they should look like. My contention was that Reznor had taken long enough off that he could have done it without, and that he has the money to access the help he would need. I didn't know that about McElhenney, but like I said, no knock on the dude, I just thought he got there without it. I guess six months isn't enough time to look like that naturally. silence_kit posted:It is easier to build muscle with steroids than without though--that is an absolute fact. It is the easy way to build muscle. There's a study I'm trying to find, I'm at work right now and I have it saved on my desktop at home, but it was something like there were four study groups and they tested them all for initial muscle mass and then muscle gained after a certain number of months. The groups gained muscle in the following order, from least to most: no exercise no PEDs, exercise with no PEDs, no exercise with PEDs, and exercise with PEDs. The people who took PEDs and did no exercise gained more muscle than the people who exercised without them. I think it was a German study?
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Memento posted:There's a study I'm trying to find, I'm at work right now and I have it saved on my desktop at home, but it was something like there were four study groups and they tested them all for initial muscle mass and then muscle gained after a certain number of months. The groups gained muscle in the following order, from least to most: no exercise no PEDs, exercise with no PEDs, no exercise with PEDs, and exercise with PEDs. The people who took PEDs and did no exercise gained more muscle than the people who exercised without them. I think it was a German study? https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101 Out of context, Figure 1 in link above suggests that doing steroids and not exercising is more effective at building muscle than following an exercise plan.
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Apr 26, 2021 23:45
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 If you can think of a better way to mark the 700th anniversary of Dante Alighieri's death I'd like to hear it. 
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Apr 26, 2021 23:49
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Memento posted:He was a skinny dude in the early 90s because of heroin. Then in the late 90s he looked actually pretty decent, regular fit guy who took care of himself. Then he took three years off, twice, and came back well muscled both times. Three years of eating right and training and (probably more importantly) getting professional, expensive nutrition and dieting advice could get basically anyone to where he was. Nanjiani, at least, says "I would not have been able to do this if I didn’t have a full year with the best trainers and nutritionists paid for by the biggest studio in the world." This is not to say that he didn't take PEDs, and it's hard to judge without progress photos, but he at least credits taking the time and paying for the professional help.
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Apr 26, 2021 23:50
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Killer robot posted:The world is not ready for Normal Al. My back walls? OH YEAH 😏 👉👉
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Right, it is the 'easiest' way in the sense that it helps you get there faster, I'd say "the faster way " is more appropriate, but... semantics. As someone said a reply or two ago, the primary effect of AAS is to allow you to go harder for longer (also recover much faster). People who aren't using literally cannot work as hard as those who are - and if they could, but they'd actually be hindering any progress. But if someone who is on gear is appropriately adjusting their output, it doesn't make any of the gym time, or forced eating, any easier. Again, semantics.Memento posted:My contention was that Reznor had taken long enough off that he could have done it without, and that he has the money to access the help he would need. I agree with this for sure, my only contention is that there are certainly some physical cues that tend to strongly suggest involvement of AAS - of course all of them are endlessly debated among fitness groups. One thing a lot of people seem to agree on is the presence of gigantic, 'capped'-looking shoulders that just never get as full-looking without gear. Even most NBA players don't have cannonballs like that. Something about the trapezius and deltoid muscles having a high number of androgen receptors or something - they respond extremely well to supraphysiological levels of testosterone. I'm no expert but on an anecdotal level, there is absolutely a massive difference. The topic of AAS use among celebs is a perfect storm of 'he said she said' and speculation that obviously I'm guilty of. It also doesn't help that despite a century of research, hormone therapy is still so taboo that almost nobody openly talks about it, especially in fields rife with unrealistic, unattainable body image as you said. To my mind, there are just too many factors; age, timeframe, then the more nebulous physical cues, that add up and make me think "oh man I wonder what this guy's on," often. You've got me interested in reading about that study again; obviously there's bias implicit in bodybuilding communities but I'm sure I've heard a few people assert that it's been debunked. 
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Apr 27, 2021 00:01
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Mister Speaker posted:Right, it is the 'easiest' way in the sense that it helps you get there faster, I'd say "the faster way " is more appropriate, but... semantics. As someone said a reply or two ago, the primary effect of AAS is to allow you to go harder for longer (also recover much faster). People who aren't using literally cannot work as hard as those who are - and if they could, but they'd actually be hindering any progress. But if someone who is on gear is appropriately adjusting their output, it doesn't make any of the gym time, or forced eating, any easier. Again, semantics. It’s the “easier way”, because there is literally no easier way to gain muscle possible. In terms of effort or time. Or any other factor. There is absolutely no easier way to gain muscle than doing steroids.
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Why does anyone care about how actors get ready for a role? Actors represent fiction on film. Just about everything in movies and TV is done to create a specific effect on the screen, and their bodies are part of that.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:39
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Weird Al is a smokeshow with or without steroids Wait what were we talking about
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Apr 27, 2021 00:40
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I'm a bald Weird Al truther now.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:49
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:But honestly who cares? Like you said, acting isn't a competitive sport. Might as well complain that they're using CGI to "cheat" - the general presumption should be that nothing about TV or movies is real in the first place. Exactly! If your livelyhood is dependent on being physically marketable then gently caress yeah do everything you can to make it as easy as possible on yourself.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Why does anyone care about how actors get ready for a role? Actors represent fiction on film. Just about everything in movies and TV is done to create a specific effect on the screen, and their bodies are part of that. Realtalk: we like to think that we're purely rational actors and can say "yeah, that's special effects/artificially created/etc." when we watch movies and TV, but the truth is that humans simply aren't wired to be rational actors. This is why horror films, e.g., work on us, and why we get invested in fictional characters even when we know they're fictional. The same thing happens with the human bodies that we see. These bodies are presented to us as Attractive, Desirable - and, in our lizard brains, Attainable. We think, if we just did the right things, we too could have bodies like that. Actors using PEDs to achieve the bodies they feel they need for these roles is similar, frankly, to using Photoshop to modify the bodies of models. These images affect the ideals we have for our own bodies, and if they're not achievable without artificial means, that poisons a lot of minds and causes a lot of disorders as people strive for these goals they literally can't ever reach within the normal bounds of the human body. If this is not a problem for you, congratulations: you are not a normal human being.
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Dude, Ill never own a house, or see the beautiful places in this world , steroid use is like the very bottom of " poo poo to care about"
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Johnny Aztec posted:Dude, Ill never own a house, or see the beautiful places in this world , steroid use is like the very bottom of " poo poo to care about" I understand where you're coming from, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that "it doesn't affect my life so it doesn't matter" is not a perspective I care to emulate. e: Anyway, back on topic.   https://i.imgur.com/MFSZNlF.mp4 And a beautiful fish to cleanse your palate: https://i.imgur.com/hvYWh6y.mp4 SneezeOfTheDecade has a new favorite as of 01:32 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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