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FlamingLiberal posted:A lot of Americans had pretty anti-Semitic attitudes at that time, but I don't think Walt was bad on the level of someone like Henry Ford, who is the reason the Protocols of the Elders of Zion spread in the US. yeah. basicaly everyone was anti semetic on some level because of education and society and poo poo, gently caress even the progressive progressives/leftists(the non jewish ones at least) of the time basicaly were "well jews are cool as individuals but if jews would just quit being so drat jewish then they could be helped better" type bullshit. Crunch Buttsteak posted:Yeah, it's... complicated. It's not that Walt was actually a super cool guy or anything, but the Nazis being seen as universal villains wasn't really a thing at the time in America. They had some big fans over here, and even among those who weren't, a sizeable portion of Americans had the attitude of "eh, what they do over in Europe is their business." not every scientist was one at the time. it was just super loving popular in american and then in europe because of our various racist systems and old money new england whites getting scared that the Irish and blacks and eastern Europeans would out breed them. also the whole "disabled people are loving moral failings/bad genes and we can't let them breed or outside(or live). gilded age progresivies were loving weird. because lots of good came out of it but a bunch of the ideas took weird loving turns. honestly, outside the anti union/worker poo poo. walt was one of the better captains of industry/big american figures at least in that time frame. he was weird loving dude and i will always enjoy reading about him.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. basicaly everyone was anti semetic on some level because of education and society and poo poo, gently caress even the progressive progressives/leftists(the non jewish ones at least) of the time basicaly were "well jews are cool as individuals but if jews would just quit being so drat jewish then they could be helped better" type bullshit.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes I believe Marx said some things like that yeah. i dont think it was as harsh as that but yeah.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:So, yeah, criticize Walt Disney all you want, dude was lovely in a lot of ways. I just find it weird how people occasionally imply that Disney was a goose-stepping full-blown Nazi sympathizer, when Henry Ford is, like, right over there, handing out pamphlets. I blame a Simpsons joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhWTkT89W_w
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Reminder that the last forced sterilization laws in the US - on the state level - were only struck down in the 1970s. No one should be surprised that laws calling for the forced sterilization of 'the incurably criminal' and 'mentally retarded' were overwhelmingly, and vastly disproportionately, applied to minorities.
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https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1386837979453399049?s=20 Amazing stuff Tucker.
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1386837979453399049?s=20 It's amazing how much a cop getting charged for killing a black man so thoroughly broke this dude's brain. Just full on descent into lunacy. I wouldn't be surprised if he has clown makeup on tomorrow lol.
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1386837979453399049?s=20 I thought Tucker and the people who watch him like lighting up a cigarette wherever and beating kids?
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1386837979453399049?s=20 i mean i think tucker is just looking to get fired so he play victim or some poo poo.
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1386837979453399049?s=20 Lot of false equivalencies going on here. Child wearing a mask outside is child abuse? What is the deal with Fox News letting these lunatic preachers spout this trash? It's not just some rando 'just asking questions' when it's a 'thought' leader shaping the attitudes of viewers.
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You're asking why a network of evil lunatics is giving a platform to evil lunatics. The answer is obvious: they are evil lunatics, and by platforming evil lunatics, other evil lunatics will give them money.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:You're asking why a network of evil lunatics is giving a platform to evil lunatics. The answer is obvious: they are evil lunatics, and by platforming evil lunatics, other evil lunatics will give them money. I know. It is just super infuriating to see this cheapening of what constitutes legitimate child abuse through an even more infuriating exercise in argument that is a total assault on logical thought. Tuning into this poo poo is essentially like a type of school for viewers. The lessons they learn in terms of how to assess objective reality are really troublesome.
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Rip Testes posted:Lot of false equivalencies going on here. Child wearing a mask outside is child abuse? There's a dude named Scott Atlas that Rush had on his show sometime last year in the middle of the pandemic. The dude put forth the false claim that children were essentially immune to covid, so there's no reason for children to wear masks and no reason for schools to remain closed. quote:SMITH: To be clear, while you are saying how important it is to get kids back into school and do so safely, you are encouraging that CDC guidance be followed, that there’s mask wearing, social distancing, and all of the precautions that they’re recommending? quote:SMITH: It’s a fascinating conversation. I don’t mean to cut you off but there’s so many things to talk about there. There are kids who fall into the high risk category. There are kids with asthma. How do you protect them?
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Twelve by Pies posted:There's a dude named Scott Atlas that Rush had on his show sometime last year in the middle of the pandemic. The dude put forth the false claim that children were essentially immune to covid, so there's no reason for children to wear masks and no reason for schools to remain closed. Scott Atlas was Trump's main guy he sought for advice on the pandemic because he believed and promoted stuff Trump wanted to hear, namely that we didn't need to do anything but just let people get infected and it would sort itself out. He's not a preventive medicine guy, an epidemologist or infectious disease specialist. He's a radiologist. He also misrepresented his prior association with Stanford who had to put out disclaimers dissociating themselves from him.
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To be fair, Atlas was more qualified than most of the people Trump brought in, which included Alex Rodriguez for some reason. Although, A-Rod is something of an expert on avoiding contact once testing increases, so that may have been less dumb than it initially seemed.
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In Tucker Carlson's case I don't know if he's genuinely stupid enough to buy the claim that children are completely immune to covid and therefore wearing a mask is child abuse, if he's genuinely stupid enough to buy the anti-vaxx lines about how "masks are slowly suffocating you and trap all germs except covid thus making you sicker and useless for preventing spread," or if it's just some sort of weird revenge thing where he feels right wingers had CPS called on them unfairly in the past and now it's just time to give those libs a taste of their own medicine by making up abuse, just like those libs did to them. Or it could be some combination of the three!
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Twelve by Pies posted:In Tucker Carlson's case I don't know if he's genuinely stupid enough to buy the claim that children are completely immune to covid and therefore wearing a mask is child abuse, if he's genuinely stupid enough to buy the anti-vaxx lines about how "masks are slowly suffocating you and trap all germs except covid thus making you sicker and useless for preventing spread," or if it's just some sort of weird revenge thing where he feels right wingers had CPS called on them unfairly in the past and now it's just time to give those libs a taste of their own medicine by making up abuse, just like those libs did to them. He seems like he's been degenerating lately. I don't know if he's playing it up for the views or if there's something genuinely wrong with him, but the last couple of things I've heard out of Carlson feel like what you'd hear right before the news came out that he had a brain tumor the size of a baby's head.
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Twelve by Pies posted:In Tucker Carlson's case I don't know if he's genuinely stupid enough to buy the claim that children are completely immune to covid and therefore wearing a mask is child abuse, if he's genuinely stupid enough to buy the anti-vaxx lines about how "masks are slowly suffocating you and trap all germs except covid thus making you sicker and useless for preventing spread," or if it's just some sort of weird revenge thing where he feels right wingers had CPS called on them unfairly in the past and now it's just time to give those libs a taste of their own medicine by making up abuse, just like those libs did to them. My guess is that he's whipping up the crowd intentionally.
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I'm wondering where the aggressive anti covid content monitoring is for this Tucker stuff. I hope the og content was flagged, at least, if it was even posted anywhere.
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Neo_Crimson posted:I thought Tucker and the people who watch him like lighting up a cigarette wherever and beating kids? When they do it, it’s just “teaching them a lesson”.
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I think with Tucker his angle isn't that the mask is hurting children it's that the forcing them to live in a state of unwarranted fear and manipulating them into playing into a terrifying falsehood is damaging to a minor. He can always fall back on this at least. There's always an escape hatch in everything he does and it's invisible to anyone who isn't already tuned into his horseshit. I think this pretending that he's losing his mind, missing a step or whatever is unhelpful. He knows his base. He knows what he can get away with and he's doing it. He's not deciding what is acceptable by what is correct and current information, he's following his base, he always does, and it works.
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Conversion therapy a denying gender dysphoria? Not abuse. Making your kids wear masks outside? The ultimate crime!
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Wanderer posted:He seems like he's been degenerating lately. I don't know if he's playing it up for the views or if there's something genuinely wrong with him, but the last couple of things I've heard out of Carlson feel like what you'd hear right before the news came out that he had a brain tumor the size of a baby's head. He's going to keep upping the dose because nobody will stop him and FNC is in full embrace-the-crazy mode.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:I think with Tucker his angle isn't that the mask is hurting children it's that the forcing them to live in a state of unwarranted fear and manipulating them into playing into a terrifying falsehood is damaging to a minor. Nah, that can't be it, because he fully supports raising children as evangelicals.
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not RW but an extremely RW talking point https://twitter.com/zoey0318/status/1386452794698313728?s=19 when will this dumb loving logic die out?
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OneEightHundred posted:Tucker is a fraud and it's all an act for the money. Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if behind the scenes, Fox News executives freaked the gently caress out when people started shifting to OAN and other more-unhinged "news" sources once they stopped letting their anchors imply the election was stolen. Tucker Carlson having a "just say whatever the gently caress you want, we don't care" clause might be an attempt to win the fringe back. Also, is anyone else find it kinda creepy at just how familiar right wingers act towards Tucker Carlson? Like, they only refer to him by first name, and speak about him like he's a personal friend. Lots of right wing radio plays several-minute chunks of his show at a time, then comments on that commentary. It's loving weird. I guess RWM people kind of acted that way with Rush Limbaugh, but I don't remember many of them just playing several minutes of him repeating fascist talking points each day.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if behind the scenes, Fox News executives freaked the gently caress out when people started shifting to OAN and other more-unhinged "news" sources once they stopped letting their anchors imply the election was stolen. Tucker Carlson having a "just say whatever the gently caress you want, we don't care" clause might be an attempt to win the fringe back. Yeah they did that with Rush as well. A lot of wierd right wingers said that Rush "was like a member of their family" despite never having met him, or even talked to them. Right wingers desperately want a Dad
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if behind the scenes, Fox News executives freaked the gently caress out when people started shifting to OAN and other more-unhinged "news" sources once they stopped letting their anchors imply the election was stolen. Tucker Carlson having a "just say whatever the gently caress you want, we don't care" clause might be an attempt to win the fringe back. Part of it is due to social media too. Tucker's pseudo-bigthink hot take format is extremely good at generating social media engagement, so while you're all wondering if his Arthur Fleck thing is gonna finally be the beginning of the end, he's busy driving more traffic to Fox from all the attention. OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:They've added a lot of new rides and the big theme now is theming areas after properties like Star Wars, as I'm sure you've probably seen  There's a Marvel area at Islands of Adventure. The Hulk coaster is probably the single best ride in the park. edit: ohhhhh you meant Disney parks specifically. OK but like it's still Orlando though? This Is the Zodiac fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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Even the Murdoch owned papers in the UK were calling Tucker a lunatic for that so cracks are showing at least.
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As if American right wingers care what anyone "foreign" says, unless it's in total agreement with them. Then they'll point that even "they" agree.
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1386837979453399049?s=20 Stuff like this is why I started this thread Wanderer posted:...the last couple of things I've heard out of Carlson feel like what you'd hear right before the news came out that he had a brain tumor the size of a baby's head. Don't get my hopes up like that.
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This Is the Zodiac posted:
Guardians of the Galaxy is not covered under that agreement which is why they are about to open this big GotG indoor coaster in Epcot later this year/early next year.
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Can someone create a cohesive t-shirt design for me to wear outside the RNC that says "Please abuse me, I'm a miner" with like a pick axe being stuffed in a stick figure butt.
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1386837979453399049?s=20 Yeah, start yelling at people on the street about how they're abusing their kids. That definitely won't get you socked in the jaw.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes Disney can't put Avengers stuff or characters in their Florida parks. There has been discussion about potentially putting a Wakanda area in Epcot because allegedly Black Panther is not covered under the old agreement. But like you're never going to see anything with 'Avengers' or 'Captain America' or 'Iron Man' there.
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1glitch0 posted:Agreement with who? Don't they own all of Marvel? they own it all but rights of use with spiderman and its villians and poo poo are sony i believe. idk IP laws and all that dumb poo poo.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:they own it all but rights of use with spiderman and its villians and poo poo are sony i believe. idk IP laws and all that dumb poo poo. But why would that mean they couldn't do an Iron Man ride?
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1glitch0 posted:Agreement with who? Don't they own all of Marvel? They do, including all the agreements marvel made before being bought
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