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There are about a billion funky hitboxes in DS1 and DS3 too DS2 does have the most bullshit grabs tho
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Roobanguy posted:Ds3 is good, but it’s still the worst of the souls games IMO. I dont know how you can say this when DS2 has the agility stat.
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Apr 26, 2021 12:32
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Oxyclean posted:I dont know how you can say this when DS2 has the agility stat. DS2 interesting things with the formula with some hits and some misses (adaptability) both narratively and mechanically whereas DS3 just plays like a worse bloodborne and is a boring rehash of DS1 story-wise. I will always enjoy a more experimental game that does cool poo poo over just a solid sequel that does nothing interesting. also bellbros for life Andrast fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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Apr 26, 2021 12:36
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I think I agree in some ways - DS2 is interesting for trying different things, and gets kinda a worse rap then it deserves, but I still can't put DS3 below it personally because DS3 is still just a far more fun game for me to play. "Worse Bloodborne" feels like a weird critique when it still means a much more fluid game then DS1 or 2. Not to mention it gets to keep shields and doesn't have that garbage rear end health vial system. It's funny though, I do feel like one of my most Souls-y emergent gameplay stories comes from DS2. I played through DS1 mostly following that mentality of summons as a last resort. DS2, upon realizing you lose health each time you die, and that going human restores you max health, and successful summons turn you human again, I played into co-op a lot more. About to fight a boss but I don't have max health? Drop a soapstone, get human again, then gently caress it, I'm human, might as well make the most of it a summon people/NPCs. I remember working my way through the back end of Shrine of Amana, and I think I kept getting summoned by the same person to help with the last segment/boss. After several failed attempts, we almost seemingly independently came to the same conclusion of "lets cheese this with a bow." There was much rejoicing to be had in the form of spinning on the spot and emoting. Though, I want to take a moment to complain about something that always irritated me about DS2 (Scholar) - the stupid petrified stuff and branches. I think this is a byproduct of them rebalancing parts of the game, but it felt almost comical to me how many times my path got arbitrarily blocked by petrified things. Something about the message you'd get about something being in the way or whatever would always conjure up images of that old math problem meme, in which someone had answered some problem about acceleration across a ramp or something with "no, an elephant is in the way."
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DS2's weird experimental stuff is interesting to observe from a distance and write down in your little notebook like you're the world's least useful property surveyor, but as far as playing it goes it feels terrible from start to finish and some abstract sense that it's Doing Things Differently can't make up for that.Andrast posted:There are about a billion funky hitboxes in DS1 and DS3 too Interesting. Tell me more.
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Oxyclean posted:I think I agree in some ways - DS2 is interesting for trying different things, and gets kinda a worse rap then it deserves, but I still can't put DS3 below it personally because DS3 is still just a far more fun game for me to play. "Worse Bloodborne" feels like a weird critique when it still means a much more fluid game then DS1 or 2. Not to mention it gets to keep shields and doesn't have that garbage rear end health vial system. I don't think faster/more fluid souls gameplay inherently makes dark souls combat better since I think slower more methodical souls gameplay is just as fun as the faster bloodborne stuff. Aside from the vial system being kind of assy, I can't really think of a single thing DS3 does better combat-wise than bloodborne. Don't get me wrong though, I think all the souls games are great and I'll play these games forever if they keep making them. If there is one thing DS2 nailed it was the multiplayer aspects (both PvP and coop). It was a shame DS3 lost so much of the fun systems there. The faster Estus in DS3 also makes perfect sense for the normal enemies but it really makes the PvP a chore since running away and chugging estuses is made trivially easy. The unnerfed Shrine of Amana was too beautiful for this world. It was pure hate condensed into a video game level.
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Apr 26, 2021 13:11
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Yeah you could make the same montage about basically ever boss that's not a person shape in 1. Lord knows I've been swept off the platform by a nonexistent tip of Bed Of Chaos's branches about 400 times. Hell I still don't know exactly where the damage on half of gaping dragons poo poo is actually happening. You can get huffy however you want Dabir but I don't think the hitboxes are significantly worse than DeS or DS 1. Especially not bad enough to have this pissy breakdown cause some people said 'I think I prefer this game.'
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Apr 26, 2021 13:14
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Andrast posted:I don't think faster/more fluid souls gameplay inherently makes dark souls combat better since I think slower more methodical souls gameplay is just as fun as the faster bloodborne stuff. Aside from the vial system being kind of assy, I can't really think of a single thing DS3 does better combat-wise than bloodborne. Don't get me wrong though, I think all the souls games are great and I'll play these games forever if they keep making them. Considering I played Scholar, I dont think I want to know what unnerfed Amana was like. * I'm being a bit of an rear end here, BB would probably not be better with shields, but every time I died to a stupid weenie enemy with a flail attack that interrupted my swing, that stupid "shields engender passivity" message hung in the back of my mind. Part of me really just does not gel with the parry/regain system, because as well as it is designed, I can't deal with risking a parry and eating poo poo when I'm like 20 minutes out from a lamp. There's too much risk, and I'm too awful at reading/learning parry. Ironically, I played a lot of DS3 without a shield (prior to playing BB) - but that was because there was so many enemies I could just flatten or annulate with my UGS.
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Apr 26, 2021 13:31
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah you could make the same montage about basically ever boss that's not a person shape in 1. lmao goons still doing the "everyone but me is a furious baby, that means I'm right" thing in 2021
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Apr 26, 2021 13:52
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Yardbomb posted:Raise your shield dummy No no, you drop your shield.
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Perfect.
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Apr 26, 2021 14:44
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They all own. 3's got polish but it really did feel too safe. And yes bellbros for life.
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A Sometimes Food posted:They all own. Bellbros was the most fun poo poo. Wish the rat friend covenant was as good.
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Apr 26, 2021 16:04
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I wanna talk about Woolie failing so many checks in Disco Elysium now.
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Grouchio posted:I wanna talk about Woolie failing so many checks in Disco Elysium now. Him failing the 70+% checks was pretty funny. I'm still watching the stream from last week, about 2 hours and 10 minutes into it not sure how far ahead that is compared to the last youtube video he put out yesterday
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Is DE a game that you don’t want to spoiled, or is it varied enough each play through that watching an LP wouldn’t ruin too much? I ask because what little I know about it makes it seem like a game specifically made just for me, but also a game I want to see other people play.
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Apr 26, 2021 22:32
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You see less than half the game after 1 run.
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Apr 26, 2021 22:33
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Dabir posted:lmao goons still doing the "everyone but me is a furious baby, that means I'm right" thing in 2021 Mate, you're being a toffee.
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Apr 26, 2021 22:42
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I really appreciate that Woolie continued doing LPs with other people and not solo, which is surprisingly hard to find on the internet. Reggie especially has very good vibes
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Apr 26, 2021 22:53
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mistermojo posted:I really appreciate that Woolie continued doing LPs with other people and not solo, which is surprisingly hard to find on the internet. Reggie especially has very good vibes Yeah, and Minh also grew on me after a lackluster first impression.
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Mywhatacleanturtle posted:Is DE a game that you don’t want to spoiled, or is it varied enough each play through that watching an LP wouldn’t ruin too much? There's lots of stuff that's late game for a lot of players that can end up early game for others because they pass a ridiculous check or just notice a thread and follow it, leading to some insight or conclusion most people don't figure out until much later, if ever. First quarter of the game is pretty safe for most things, but if you want to play it I'd strongly suggest just diving in and watching the LPs after so your preconceptions on certain conversations aren't already there going into them.
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Mywhatacleanturtle posted:Is DE a game that you don’t want to spoiled, or is it varied enough each play through that watching an LP wouldn’t ruin too much? If you're going to play it, I'll report that the humor and course of events is really fun when you don't know what's coming, or what the potential consequences of your words/deeds are. I would urge you to play it first.
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Thanks, gonna dive in and purchase it on the switch because being able to smoke cigarettes while playing seems appropriate.
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Do we know yet if Woolie is going to see the choice to *REAL-rear end SPOILER* shoot Cunoesse in Disco Elysium? Like, has he gotten to that point in a stream that hasn't been posted on Youtube yet?
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Apr 27, 2021 01:29
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Mate, you're being a toffee. He seems to have waged an eternal war against any person that's ever enjoyed Dark Souls 2. It's a hell of a thing but I suppose we all have our windmills to tilt at. Also DS2 is the best for all of the reasons stated above. Powerstancing was genuinely better than anything that came before or after it.
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Dark Souls 2 let you make an incredibly good bareknuckled boxing build if you got the right gear and grinded the right covenants. Beating the Fume Knight to death with your bare hands was amazing. Also Dark Souls 3 was terrible, bring back slow chunky combat. Although ironically I think Dark Eater Midir is actually a joke if you are using a sword and board build.
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Apr 27, 2021 08:14
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The dks3 system was more refined, but the weapons were less interesting I feel(Outside of a few obvious ones like wolf boi flippy sword)
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artoriases greatsword was cooler in ds2 because it had a unique moveset if you used it in ur left hand.
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You do understand that not liking a game you like isn't a personal attack, yes?
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Guys, we’re all losing sight of what’s really important: which entry had the best Fashion Souls it’s 3
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Dabir posted:You do understand that not liking a game you like isn't a personal attack, yes? You're being more intense than anyone you're talking to.
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Apr 27, 2021 12:13
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Pennsylvanian posted:You're being more intense than anyone you're talking to. And?
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Dabir posted:And? im sorry u have bad opinions ie the best dark souls game, (it is 2)
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Dabir posted:And? They're calling you a hypocrite. Because you're being hypocritical.
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a_gelatinous_cube posted:Dark Souls 2 let you make an incredibly good bareknuckled boxing build if you got the right gear and grinded the right covenants. Beating the Fume Knight to death with your bare hands was amazing. Also Dark Souls 3 was terrible, bring back slow chunky combat. Although ironically I think Dark Eater Midir is actually a joke if you are using a sword and board build. Cestus only DS2 was so loving fun.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:They're calling you a hypocrite. Because you're being hypocritical. I'm expressing my opinion on a bad video game without attacking anyone else and I'm getting poo poo like Roobanguy posted:im sorry u have bad opinions ie the best dark souls game, (it is 2) in response so no, I'm not.
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Also dabir the only person doing what you're accusing everyone else of in this thread is you. Just relax man.
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Dabir posted:You're entitled to your long term amnesia, but I played it start to end this year. Like you started the convo off with incredibly aggressive poo poo like this.l when everyone else was just chatting. Thats why everyone's making fun of you
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Like you started the convo off with incredibly aggressive poo poo like this.l when everyone else was just chatting. alright, I did forget I said that, fair and I stand by it
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