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Mr.Radar posted:This video is definitely some of the very best in obsolete and failed technology (optical media camcorders): One of the areas at my workplace had a ton of those mini DVD video cameras, I was surprised someone went ahead with this as an idea
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Vavrek posted:My dad tried to get me to use a Mavis Beacon typing program when I was maybe 13 or 14. Didn't take. You know what did? GameSpy's Planet [Game] forums, and subsequent IRC and AIM conversations with people I met there. My elementary school had keyboard typing lessons and I ignored them and learned nothing. I learned to touch type while playing Counterstrike, it was really important to belt out my chat insults FAST because I couldn't use WASD to move while the chat window was open.
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Mescal posted:Jesus, yeah. My partner calls me old when I complain about this. Most stuff should work just fine on less resources. But they write duct-tape-and-molasses code because RAM and storage is cheap. And you've got a machine that should be ten times overpowered for ordinary daily stuff, but it cries uncle trying to like, load a loving PDF. I've recently got an HP 200LX which is an XT (8086) PC with a bunch of PIM applications in ROM in a palmtop form factor, because it was mentioned in this thread and reminded me that I wanted one years ago but they were outrageously expensive when new. It's an amazing example of how tiny, tiny applications and storage were and could be when done right. 2 AA batteries last a month of occasional daily use! Insanity. (Obvs completely unusable for anything remotely modern)
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WITCHCRAFT posted:My elementary school had keyboard typing lessons and I ignored them and learned nothing. heatef ganer miment
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I got bored with highly regimented this-finger-goes-on-this-row typing lessons very quickly and being a forums gremlin from like the age of 11 onwards helped get me to 110wpm just doing my own thing within a couple years. I've always thought it'd probably be good to actually learn "proper" technique and train myself out of all the inefficiencies and ergonomic sins and other bad habits I'm sure I'm guilty of, but that would require effort
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Lol I took a “business” class in high school and a lot of it was sitting at an ibm selectric replicating a page of text projected on the wall Would fail if the teacher caught you looking at the keyboard
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Pretty good posted:inefficiencies and ergonomic sins and other bad habits I'm sure I'm guilty of Not typing but in general use: I don't think I ever use the right ctrl/alt/windows keys. They're totally superfluous.
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Trabant posted:Not typing but in general use: I don't think I ever use the right ctrl/alt/windows keys. They're totally superfluous. My video player of choice (Media Player Classic) has alt-enter as the default shortcut to maximize a video. That's pretty convenient to do with my right hand and the right alt key. That's all I can think of. I don't even use Right Shift.
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I "properly" touch type and I feel like I use the right shift key far less often than you'd expect. Can't really speak for ctrl/alt keys — over a decade of using apple laptops means I can rely on there being a right command key, but not necessarily a right option key. And in windows those are mapped to win and alt, respectively. Not having a right control key rather quickly trains you to not use it. I suppose it's a lot like those people who insist on tiny keyboards and using deadkeys for arrows and numerals and so-on.
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Zenostein posted:I "properly" touch type and I feel like I use the right shift key far less often than you'd expect. Can't really speak for ctrl/alt keys — over a decade of using apple laptops means I can rely on there being a right command key, but not necessarily a right option key. And in windows those are mapped to win and alt, respectively. Not having a right control key rather quickly trains you to not use it. Might be due to the most common letters in English language being E, T, A, R, then S? Not sure if translates to most common opening characters in a sentence, but need thing I learnt from a cryptography course (and Wheel of Fortune)
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Humphreys posted:Might be due to the most common letters in English language being E, T, A, R, then S? Not sure if translates to most common opening characters in a sentence, but need thing I learnt from a cryptography course (and Wheel of Fortune) ETAOIN SHRDLU
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Programming on a non-US layout is a very right-alt (though typically not alt-right) heavy activity - all of @{[]}~´µ$£€ are on AltGr - modified keys. This means left and right alt are different: Left alt works in shortcuts, right-alt ("AltGr", on my keyboard - "alternate graphics") modifies what symbol you type. Adding insult to injury, while they're a shift-modified and not alt-modified symbol, backticks ` are a dead key; they add an acute accent to the next character you type. You need to combine them with a space to get a plain one. Writing code in languages that make liberal use of them is unfun - though not quite bad enough for me to consider writing code on a US software layout on Norwegian hardware, like some people do. Having a broad selection of deadkey modifiers does make it easy to tưpè wêïrd foreigñ characters (and the sporadic and optional acute accents in Norwegian), though. Computer viking has a new favorite as of 12:00 on Apr 20, 2021 |
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Zopotantor posted:ETAOIN SHRDLU I think I had a pint of Guinness at his pub last time I was in Dublin.
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KozmoNaut posted:I think I had a pint of Guinness at his pub last time I was in Dublin. She's great in The Expanse!
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Humphreys posted:Might be due to the most common letters in English language being E, T, A, R, then S? Not sure if translates to most common opening characters in a sentence, but need thing I learnt from a cryptography course (and Wheel of Fortune) I don't think it really translates to those being the most common initials, but with the exception of the A, it really just means stretching that hand a bit more to hit the shift key (and using my ring finger for the A). That's probably not really good for your hand though, and probably only works well for laptop keyboards, with their minuscule key travel and such. Computer viking posted:Having a broad selection of deadkey modifiers does make it easy to tưpè wêïrd foreigñ characters (and the sporadic and optional acute accents in Norwegian), though. Easily the most exciting bit of using a mac is finding all the deadkeys (they're hidden under option, so ¨ is opt-u and then a suitable letter or space, enter, or backspace to get just the character. Even if some of them aren't really necessary anymore, like the fi and fl ligatures, which any decent word processor'll sort out itself.
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My high school business class was so long ago that we learned to balance a checkbook and how to write in shorthand. Touch-typing was in 7th grade, when we also learned BASIC.
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Gaius Marius posted:that's crazy they're super useful While I don't have that shortcut, and tend to just always already have Firefox open, I'm not sure why I need to use my right hand for that. Left pinky on Winkey, left index finger on F. Thinking about it, the way modifier keys work for me is: if I'm pressing something on the left side of the keyboard (ctrl-c, win-f, alt-x, whatever), I use my left hand alone. If I'm pressing something else (ctrl-i, maybe?), I press the left modifier with my left hand and the right-side key with my right hand. My resting position is WASD+mouse, so this doesn't require moving my left hand any. (ctrl- - and ctrl- + I do with the numpad - and +.)
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Zenostein posted:I don't think it really translates to those being the most common initials, but with the exception of the A, it really just means stretching that hand a bit more to hit the shift key (and using my ring finger for the A). That's probably not really good for your hand though, and probably only works well for laptop keyboards, with their minuscule key travel and such. I do love the Linux-Norwegian layout for much the same reason - it's basically "why do we have all these blank spots where AltGr+<key> doesn't do anything - and why shouldn't AltGr+Shift do even more?". After all, cramming as much as possible onto the keys is "free" - if you don't use it, it's not in the way. Computer viking has a new favorite as of 01:10 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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I never noticed that the other never once used alt key on my keyboard is actually Alt Gr. What's the Gr mean?
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Vavrek posted:Huh. My typing instructor back in high school told us to always use the shift key (or other modifier, if we hadn't been on typewriters*) that was on the other hand from whatever letter you were typing. Which makes sense -- if you did it with the same hand, the letter you want might require the same pinky that's pressing shift. At some point my habits diverged from this, and when touch typing, I use the right-side shift key exclusively. A while back it occurred to me to wonder how I do a capital P, so (after a bit of practice) I managed to kind of pay attention to what I was doing by pure muscle memory. And I discovered that while my left hand was still doing perfectly kosher touch typing, my entire right hand might be shifting one or even two keys further to the right than it should be... and continuing to type at full speed from that position, with the fingers all hitting different letters than they "should", until I needed to type a key nearer the center that brought my hand back to the standard position. I really do just scoot my hand over by a key or two and keep typing from there. At 100 WPM. I have no idea how I manage to pull this off, and if I think about it too hard, all I do is trip myself up. Oddly, I almost always use the ctrl and alt keys on the left side, but those aren't really part of touch typing. * Yes. 
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Inspector 34 posted:I never noticed that the other never once used alt key on my keyboard is actually Alt Gr. What's the Gr mean? "Alternate Graphics", I believe - as in "another symbol than the key usually produces". edit: Nearly - it's Alternate Graphic, per IBM. (https://web.archive.org/web/20060114072048/http://publib16.boulder.ibm.com/doc_link/en_US/a_doc_lib/aixkybd/kybdtech/Appendix.htm ) Computer viking has a new favorite as of 01:59 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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> key mapping chat I like the Compose key method which X uses : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key ..and then have AltGr set as Compose instead, since I find the sequences much easier to remember. E.g. Compose `a for à, compose - L for £. The basic ones just seem to be obvious according to how you write the character and accents or whatever. I just wish it were a bit easier to add entries, as I've not found a nice way to add things for some now-common Unicode or emoji characters yet.
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Zopotantor posted:ETAOIN SHRDLU Such a good documentary
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Vavrek posted:My video player of choice (Media Player Classic) has alt-enter as the default shortcut to maximize a video. That's pretty convenient to do with my right hand and the right alt key. Leaves your left hand free while you watch those videos, eh? 
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i love watching right-alt videos (everybody gets mad at me) sheesh MPC culture strikes again....
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repost from the Tech Relics thread (not sure if this is a more appropriate place to ask?) Anyone here got a Nomad Jukebox (1st gen)? I just bought a "Parts" quality device (its HDD is dead) for cheap in exactly the same color as the one I got for my 18th birthday for some sweet sweet memberberries. Back in the day I loved it and used it constantly but I filled the 6GB HDD up pretty quickly, so I replaced the 6GB HDD with a 60GB unit. I remember it being incredibly easy so I figured it'd be no big deal to do it again 20 years later. What I apparently forgot is that you need a working HDD with the proprietary filesystem in tact so you can copy it to the replacement drive. I think I'm probably hosed though, the thing was niche as gently caress in 2000 so 21 years later.......
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Can't the Nomad format the drive itself from the emergency menu? As in this guide https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fyi-upgrade-instructions-for-the-nomad-jukebox-3.46802/
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KozmoNaut posted:Can't the Nomad format the drive itself from the emergency menu? Unfortunately those instructions are for the Nomad Jukebox 3, I don't think they work for the original. I'll post if they do, though!
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I blame my typing teacher for how I capitalize letters when touch typing: I hit caps lock, then the letter, then caps lock again. It's not that I was taught that way, it's that I should've been beaten with a ruler or something to be cured of that habit.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I blame my typing teacher for how I capitalize letters when touch typing: I hit caps lock, then the letter, then caps lock again. It's not that I was taught that way, it's that I should've been beaten with a ruler or something to be cured of that habit. You must've had the same teacher as my wife. Watching her type is like pulling teeth, I have to go into another room.
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You go into another room when you pull teeth? That's weird.
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Weatherman posted:Leaves your left hand free while you watch those videos, eh? So, the only times I'll maximize a video are when I'm watching a movie with a friend, right? And in those times, I won't always be facing my computer straight-on, because I've got a friend to look at, which means my hand might shift a bit on the keyboard from its normal position. And I've got a keyboard that swaps the position of right-Alt and right-Win from what I'm used to. You know what Win-Enter does? It launches Windows' screen reader. So I'm trying to show a movie I like to a friend and suddenly the computer starts talking. It's terrible.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I blame my typing teacher for how I capitalize letters when touch typing: I hit caps lock, then the letter, then caps lock again. It's not that I was taught that way, it's that I should've been beaten with a ruler or something to be cured of that habit. Dicty Bojangles posted:You must've had the same teacher as my wife. Watching her type is like pulling teeth, I have to go into another room. I started typing in 1st grade in 90's Texas and they taught touch typing the same way because we were on word processors that didn't have shift, or something weird about the machine itself. gently caress I really miss typing with a good word processor. I usually took my mom's old junk to use at school, since in my kid brain college equipment would work better; so I ended using a brother electric typewriter word-processing machine though like, sophomore year? Anyway I learned to spell a lot of words by speaking them phonetically, but the decades of computer assisted editing have taken their toll and the last time I tried to use one a few years back, I sat there and couldn't figure out what the gently caress I was thinking about typing for, and a huge page of misspelled versions of "I like to eat eat eat apples and bananas" was all I made. Edit: post your keyboard testing phrases Wasabi the J has a new favorite as of 08:56 on Apr 29, 2021 |
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Mr.Radar posted:This video is definitely some of the very best in obsolete and failed technology (optical media camcorders): Outside of archival uses, optical media itself is becoming an obsolete technology. Most laptops don't have CD/DVD drives anymore. Modern PC cases don't have dedicated slots for them anymore. USB thumb drives and SD cards have enough capacity for most people's storage needs. My own external DVD burner was made all the way back in 2006 and I haven't had an urge to upgrade to a Bluray burner. Wasabi the J posted:gently caress I really miss typing with a good word processor. I usually took my mom's old junk to use at school, since in my kid brain college equipment would work better; so I ended using a brother electric typewriter word-processing machine though like, sophomore year? My sisters had one of these for their school and college poo poo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnRDPiRm0yw I remember messing around with it as a kid, being enamored with the orange-on-black display and the blinking cursor. 90s Solo Cup has a new favorite as of 10:04 on Apr 29, 2021 |
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Wasabi the J posted:Edit: post your keyboard testing phrases Charles was mostly in charge but Javier goaded Zeke into to petty xylophone fights quarterly
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90s Solo Cup posted:Outside of archival uses, optical media itself is becoming an obsolete technology. Most laptops don't have CD/DVD drives anymore. Modern PC cases don't have dedicated slots for them anymore. USB thumb drives and SD cards have enough capacity for most people's storage needs. Those have come up in the thread before. I used to stay up late writing papers in middle school. Had to wait until morning to print because the thing was so loud.
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