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A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

If any you people do audiobooks, the narrator for the Murderbot books is really good.

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Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!

a foolish pianist posted:

I keep trying to catch her prints at release, but they're always sold out. I think you've got to watch insta for the release times and just sit by the computer to catch one in the few minutes after she puts them on the shop. It's like trying to buy a graphics card or a PS5 or something.

Looks like we might have a chance soon. I really want to request a copy of Chen dissolving into salamanders
https://twitter.com/kathleenneeley/status/1386687945101488131

Kesper North posted:

It's by a local band so unless you're a goth in Seattle I would be somewhat surprised if you had!

Well I guess not, but I've added them to my playlist for when I'm working or exercising.

Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!
I did it. I finally finished Fellowship of the Ring after picking it up and putting it down since roughly middle school.

I really didn't like it. I realize how important the story is to some people so I'm not going to be "that guy." I just found it thoroughly unenjoyable and a chore to get through. There are no real characters or arcs because it feels like anytime a character speaks or even makes a move, Tolkien uses it as a prompt to go into an extended worldbuilding spiel. Google puts the page count at 423 and somehow Legolas is still just the Elf, Gimli is just The Dwarf, Aragorn is still The Human With a Secret That's Not a Secret, Gandalf is The Wizard, and the Hobbits are pretty fun but are still pretty hollow for such a long book.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Pennsylvanian posted:

I did it. I finally finished Fellowship of the Ring after picking it up and putting it down since roughly middle school.

I really didn't like it. I realize how important the story is to some people so I'm not going to be "that guy." I just found it thoroughly unenjoyable and a chore to get through. There are no real characters or arcs because it feels like anytime a character speaks or even makes a move, Tolkien uses it as a prompt to go into an extended worldbuilding spiel. Google puts the page count at 423 and somehow Legolas is still just the Elf, Gimli is just The Dwarf, Aragorn is still The Human With a Secret That's Not a Secret, Gandalf is The Wizard, and the Hobbits are pretty fun but are still pretty hollow for such a long book.

Wow, I've never seen a comment that so perfectly encapsulates "this book isn't for you". I'm in the middle of Fellowship now - the Hobbits just left the Prancing Pony - and I've been in love with the rich detailing of everything, and the Bombadil chapter was an absolute delight. Can't wait to get to Rivendell!

Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!

StrixNebulosa posted:

Wow, I've never seen a comment that so perfectly encapsulates "this book isn't for you". I'm in the middle of Fellowship now - the Hobbits just left the Prancing Pony - and I've been in love with the rich detailing of everything, and the Bombadil chapter was an absolute delight. Can't wait to get to Rivendell!

I was actually okay with the book up to that point. Tom Bombadil was a huge bump in the road, but I was willing to give a lot of compliments to the book. Then the pacing just hit a wall for me at Rivendell and I was only reading the book just to say I finally finished it.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

StrixNebulosa posted:

Wow, I've never seen a comment that so perfectly encapsulates "this book isn't for you". I'm in the middle of Fellowship now - the Hobbits just left the Prancing Pony - and I've been in love with the rich detailing of everything, and the Bombadil chapter was an absolute delight. Can't wait to get to Rivendell!

I think there's a subgenre of fantasy that really hinges on the question of 'do you really enjoy long evocative descriptions of rural landscapes and people rambling through them?'

Lord of the Rings kind of goes to poo poo once the plot starts happening but Fellowship of the Ring is a treasure

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
It really is just one big book. The hobbits get more characterisation, things happen, there is the actual war going on.

But if you had to struggle to read the first third, it's probably better to wait until you get the urge to try again.

Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!
I can see what people enjoy about it, at the least. When it's at its best, it gives you that "storyteller" feel like grandpa is telling you the story while you sit on his knee or you're in an open-air theatre. The world itself feels full, but what's happening in the book in the present just feels hollow a lot of the time.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength
I always thought it was pretty cool how the whole style of the book (dialogue and all) becomes more epic and formal the further away it gets from the Shire.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


As a kid I never made it past halfway through The Two Towers.

In fact I'm not sure I ever revisited and finished the books, or if my memory of them was completely eclipsed by the films and then the extended editions of said films.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Tom Bombadil was the worst thing about the Lord of the Rings and leaving him out of the movies was 110% the right move.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Khizan posted:

Tom Bombadil was the worst thing about the Lord of the Rings and leaving him out of the movies was 110% the right move.

"keep talkin poo poo, buddy. you're lucky Goldberry is holding me back, otherwise these boots of yellow would be up your rear end."

Lunsku
May 21, 2006

I'm very much not going to even try to be objective about Lord of the Rings personally. Got the Finnish translation as a birthday gift when I turned ten, spent a month in Middle-Earth, and that literally opened the world that is books to me properly and got me dredging throught the library shelves the next five years.

darkgray
Dec 20, 2005

My best pose facing the morning sun!

A Proper Uppercut posted:

If any you people do audiobooks, the narrator for the Murderbot books is really good.

I have the complete opposite opinion, weirdly. I'm guessing the narrator is doing it on purpose to highlight how Murderbot is failing at humanity, but it comes off as being so wonky and awkward that it's almost impossible to get through each new release.

I wish the quality of the narrator didn't affect the enjoyment of audiobooks so much for me.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
In that vast shadow once of yore
Fingolfin stood: his shield he bore
with field of heaven's blue and star
of crystal shining pale afar.
In overmastering wrath and hate
despate he smote upon that gate,
the Gnomish king, there standing lone,
while endless fortresses of stone
engulfed the thin clear ringing keen
of silver horn on baldric green.

His hopeless challenge dauntless cried
Fingolfin there: 'Come, open wide,
dark king, your ghastly brazen doors!
Come forth, whom earth and heaven abhors!
Come forth, O monstrous craven lord,
and fight with thine own hand and sword,
thou wielder of hosts and banded thralls,
thou tyrant leaguered with strong walls,
thou foe of Gods and elvish race!
I wait thee here. Come! Show thy face!'

Then Morgoth came. For the last time
in those great wars he dared to climb
from subterranean throne profound,
the rumour of his feet a sound
of rumbling earthquake underground.
Black-armoured, towering, iron-crowned
he issued forth; his mighty shield
a vast unblazoned sable field
with shadow like a thundercloud;
and o'er the gleaming king it bowed,
as huge aloft like mace he hurled,
that hammer of the underworld,
Grond. Clanging to ground it tumbled
down like a thunder-bolt, and crumbled
the rocks beneath it; smoke up-started,
a pit yawned, and a fire darted.

Fingolfin like a shooting light
beneath a cloud, a stab of white,
sprang then aside, and Ringil drew
like ice that gleameth cold and blue,
his sword devised of elvish skill
to pierce the flesh with deadly chill.
With seven wounds it rent his foe,
and seven mighty cries of woe
rang in the mountains, and the earth quook,
and Angband's trembling armies shook.

Yet Orcs would after laughing tell
of the duel at the gates of hell;
though elvish song thereof was made
ere this but one -- when sad was laid
the mighty king in barrow high,
and Thorndor, Eagle of the sky,
the dreadful tidings brought and told
to mourning Elfinesse of old.

Thrice was Fingolfin with great blows
to his knees beaten, thrice he rose
still leaping up beneath the cloud
aloft to hold star-shining, proud,
his stricken shield, his sundered helm,
that dark nor might could overwhelm
till all the earth was burst and rent
in pits about him. He was spent.
His feet stumbled. He fell to wreck
upon the ground, and on his neck
a foot like rooted hills was set,
and he was crushed -- not conquered yet;
one last despairing stroke he gave:
the mighty foot pale Ringil clave
about the heel, and black the blood
gushed as from smoking fount in flood.

Halt goes for ever from that stroke
great Morgoth; but the king he broke,
and would have hewn and mangled thrown
to wolves devouring. Lo! from the throne
that Manwë bade him build on high,
on peak unscaled beneath the sky,
Morgoth to watch, now down there swooped
Thorndor the King of Eagles, stooped,
and rending beak of gold he smote
in Bauglir's face, then up did float
on pinions thirty fathoms wide
bearing away, though loud they cried,
the mighty corse, the Elven-king;
and where the mountains make a ring
far to the south about that plain
where after Gondolin did reign,
embattled city, at great height
upon a dizzy snowcap white
in mounded cairn the mighty dead
he laid upon the mountain's head.
Never Orc nor demon after dared
that pass to climb, o'er which there stared
Fingolfin's high and holy tomb,
till Gondolin's appointed doom.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
sorry it just kind of slipped out

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Ancillary Justice is 99p on the Amazon UK Kindle store today!

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Given the influence of LotR, you already kinda know the story before reading it, since it has been retold countless times after the trilogy and I would say that makes it seem less spectacular. Other genre defining books experience the same phenomena (as example Neuromancer).

mewse
May 2, 2006

Pennsylvanian posted:

I did it. I finally finished Fellowship of the Ring after picking it up and putting it down since roughly middle school.

I really didn't like it. I realize how important the story is to some people so I'm not going to be "that guy." I just found it thoroughly unenjoyable and a chore to get through. There are no real characters or arcs because it feels like anytime a character speaks or even makes a move, Tolkien uses it as a prompt to go into an extended worldbuilding spiel. Google puts the page count at 423 and somehow Legolas is still just the Elf, Gimli is just The Dwarf, Aragorn is still The Human With a Secret That's Not a Secret, Gandalf is The Wizard, and the Hobbits are pretty fun but are still pretty hollow for such a long book.

I've read LOTR and I'm with you, not my thing

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Fingolfin throwing down with Morgoth

The fact that the Amazon 'Lord of the Rings' TV show is actually going to be focused on First and Second Age events really makes me want a tv show or movie for the War of Wrath.


And then announce a new Angband game (and if it's isometric, watch as people call it a Diablo clone without a shred of awareness at the irony).

Drakyn
Dec 26, 2012

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I stabbed Morgoth
'Till he fed me his shoe.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
The problem with the First Age is that there is no-one on the planet who can portray a dick as enormous as Fëanor.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Cardiac posted:

Given the influence of LotR, you already kinda know the story before reading it, since it has been retold countless times after the trilogy and I would say that makes it seem less spectacular. Other genre defining books experience the same phenomena (as example Neuromancer).

I had this experience reading The Three Musketeers in high school. "It's just a bunch of swashbuckling cliches!"

Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015
It's super not fun when you're reading old sci-fi, like Space Viking in my case, and you're kinda swimming along and going "okay no it was written by a white dude in the 50's, that's why everyone smokes and the main characters are from a feudal system that empowered them that's why it seems so fond of them," only for the book to toss in SPACE JEWS who EVERYONE HATES because of their INSCRUTABLE SPACE JEW WAYS and how every really civilized world is a feudal monarchy and how democracy is portrayed as foolish but not AS foolish as socialism.

Man, H Beam Piper had some issues.

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

darkgray posted:

I have the complete opposite opinion, weirdly. I'm guessing the narrator is doing it on purpose to highlight how Murderbot is failing at humanity, but it comes off as being so wonky and awkward that it's almost impossible to get through each new release.

I wish the quality of the narrator didn't affect the enjoyment of audiobooks so much for me.

That's kind of how I read it, but it worked for me.

And yes, it really sucks when you don't like the narrator. I was like 6 books into a series with one narrator and then it went to another and he pronounced all the names differently and just sucked. I just stopped listening.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Fivemarks posted:

It's super not fun when you're reading old sci-fi, like Space Viking in my case, and you're kinda swimming along and going "okay no it was written by a white dude in the 50's, that's why everyone smokes and the main characters are from a feudal system that empowered them that's why it seems so fond of them," only for the book to toss in SPACE JEWS who EVERYONE HATES because of their INSCRUTABLE SPACE JEW WAYS and how every really civilized world is a feudal monarchy and how democracy is portrayed as foolish but not AS foolish as socialism.

Man, H Beam Piper had some issues.

My "favourite" bit is in Uller Uprising when the protagonist and the Hot Chick Who Turns Out To Not Be A Bleeding-Heart Liberal Do-Gooder Like He Thinks She Is bond over the hi-larious fact that they both had Nazi ancestors who fled to Brazil.

I would say that REALLY didn't age well but that might imply it wasn't loving awful at some point. :catstare:

Spite
Jul 27, 2001

Small chance of that...
My friend's book came out today:
https://www.amazon.com/Folklorn-Angela-Mi-Young-Hur/dp/1645660168

I'm not totally sure how to describe it. It's not really fantasy or sci fi - more magical realism and a lot of Korean myths. And particle physics. But I bet some of you will dig it.

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

Man I'm a couple chapters into Harrow the Ninth and I have absolutely no idea what is going on.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Spite posted:

My friend's book came out today:
https://www.amazon.com/Folklorn-Angela-Mi-Young-Hur/dp/1645660168

I'm not totally sure how to describe it. It's not really fantasy or sci fi - more magical realism and a lot of Korean myths. And particle physics. But I bet some of you will dig it.

Congrats! Your friend has a real publisher so prob can't run a sale at will, but I recommend doing a Cover Reveal on the r/fantasy reddit and post a link to the book in the comments . I did that for my first novel and it got 2k likes, jumped to #1 Best Seller in Epic Fantasy for a full day, and got downloaded over 2000 times. It's like a super effective blog tour that doesn't cost anything, especially cause the book will probably be picked up by a lot of their "Reading Champions" who will post reviews on their blogs.

Ccs fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Apr 27, 2021

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

A Proper Uppercut posted:

Man I'm a couple chapters into Harrow the Ninth and I have absolutely no idea what is going on.
Harrow's hanging out with the Necrolord Prime and thinking about her buddy and cavalier, Ortus, who tragically died at the end of the first book.

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



I went through the entire Pathfinder series by Orson Scott Card. The first book was pretty fun. The second book was okay. The third book makes me wish time travel was real so I could warn my former self that the last half of the last book, especially the ending, was completely trash.

I don't think I've ever been so disappointed in a book series before.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

not to chomp pradmer's flavor but:

Use of Weapons by Iain M. Banks - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015DWLTE/

I'm slowly accumulating Culture novels.

mewse
May 2, 2006

A Proper Uppercut posted:

Man I'm a couple chapters into Harrow the Ninth and I have absolutely no idea what is going on.

Yeah.. I wasn't really happy with how long it takes in that book to clear up what's actually going on

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

A Proper Uppercut posted:

Man I'm a couple chapters into Harrow the Ninth and I have absolutely no idea what is going on.

Nor does Harrow, at this point.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

mewse posted:

Yeah.. I wasn't really happy with how long it takes in that book to clear up what's actually going on

On the other hand, I loved that about it.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


It was real tough for me to get through the first act but once I got a handle on the dynamics between the characters again it was fine. The first bit is so disorienting because Harrow is not acting like the same person from the first book at all and I couldn't visualize the space stations they were on very well and who the heck is Ortus.

Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015

Gats Akimbo posted:

My "favourite" bit is in Uller Uprising when the protagonist and the Hot Chick Who Turns Out To Not Be A Bleeding-Heart Liberal Do-Gooder Like He Thinks She Is bond over the hi-larious fact that they both had Nazi ancestors who fled to Brazil.

I would say that REALLY didn't age well but that might imply it wasn't loving awful at some point. :catstare:

Jesus loving Christ.

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
Harrow was confusing and lovely. Unlike the end of the first book, which was just lovely.

malbogio
Jan 19, 2015

I started enjoying Harrow once I gave up on understanding what was going on. Early on it provides a lot of new information that doesn't fit together at all.

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pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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Hubbardologist posted:

not to chomp pradmer's flavor but:

Use of Weapons by Iain M. Banks - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015DWLTE/

I'm slowly accumulating Culture novels.

Some days I'm slow and I'm sure I miss plenty of books I just don't recognize. It's all good.

The Black Song (Raven's Blade #2) by Anthony Ryan - $1.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0818XJTFX/

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