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I haven't myself been on hormone replacement therapy what with being a pretty content cis dude, but I know many women who are and the combination of anti-androgens and estrogens causes your muscles to basically go "well'p not like we need to be here doing manly poo poo anymore" and your upper body strength pretty much takes a nosedive. Once your testosterone levels reach those in the ranges of cis women your ability to maintain and gain muscle mass is exactly the same. Androgens don't magically make you more powerful either, they just increase the amount of muscle mass you can build and maintain. This poo poo isn't new, either. We've known about this for drat near a century, it just got institutionally suppressed for ages. Hell, we'd probably be decades ahead of where we are now regarding gender identity and the physiological components of sexual diversity if the Nazi Party didn't burn the archives of Magnus Hirschfeld's research institutes in 1933 before sending him off to die in exile.
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Apr 27, 2021 23:23
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Me when I see what the thread is talking about. 
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Apr 27, 2021 23:28
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Go feed that starving dog you monster He’s wasting away to nothing but skin and bone and fat and fur and muscle
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Apr 27, 2021 23:30
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Apr 27, 2021 23:32
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Apr 27, 2021 23:33
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bulletsponge13 posted:I'm still bitter that I had to drive to Fallujah to pick up a truck (that wasn't there), then drive back to Camp Falcon same day, only to get back and have my friend's tell me how awesome the USO dude was. drat that's a solid dude
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Apr 27, 2021 23:34
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Super cool! Is this the cool zone?
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Apr 27, 2021 23:38
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Laranzu posted:Super cool! Is this the cool zone? No it's the ignorant, self-righteous zone. Cool zone means fun in the streets.
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Apr 27, 2021 23:42
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Texas wants to speedrun that Secession goal again.
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Apr 27, 2021 23:42
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bulletsponge13 posted:"Yeah, I tore apart your poo poo trying to find your book to get him to sign it." Did they at least get the book signed?
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Apr 27, 2021 23:43
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CommieGIR posted:Texas wants to speedrun that Secession goal again. I'm fine with it.
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Apr 27, 2021 23:43
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https://twitter.com/potus/status/1387123131500924929?s=21 Cool I guess? It’s cool and all but it’s just so 
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Apr 27, 2021 23:44
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Apr 27, 2021 23:50
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CainFortea posted:Did they at least get the book signed? No. Because it was in my assault pack on my road trip. I for real appreciated the effort, and I know I picked the guy up a small thank you, like BK at the Airport, or some poo poo from the crappy travelling PX that only ever had Coca Cola and Sour Cream and Onion Pringles. But that night, after he convinced me, I was a a little short with the dude. "Awesome. Now, I get to clean up after not getting to shoot anybody. Wanna poo poo in my k-pot, and top off my day?" He laughed and got the situation, gave me a shoulder hug, and went to midnight chow.
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Apr 27, 2021 23:52
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bulletsponge13 posted:No. Rollins seems like the kind of guy who if you sent him a message with your story, he'd help you out.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:17
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KirbyKhan posted:Oh man, I never thought it'd be me walking the line of You should do more reading before you dig any deeper on this and before you spread around any more unintentionally transphobic misinformation. Here, give this website a read. Maybe check out some of the studies cited. Definitely read through the case studies. I'll go one step further though and really make this a lot easier for you  See those green pips distributed all the way across the spectrum? Yeah those are female athletes with testosterone levels higher then most of the male athletes tested for the study. This isn't getting in to the range of responsiveness individuals have which makes comparing hormone level to hormone level meaningless as a metric. We also need to touch on the fact that there are XX males and XY females as well, who can have different conditions that cause their bodies to develop one way or another. Physical sex is such a broad range of different combinations of physical features and chemical compositions that there's always going to be a wide range of overlap in physical capabilities between even elite athletes. It's the whole reason that female troops are viable, there are enough females who meet the performance cutoffs. That's also ignoring the idea that the cis athletes aren't using steroids and other enhancements. Athletes in all sports get caught doing that all the time, it's basically an arms race of developing new dosing protocols and different formulations versus developing new tests to detect the dosing.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:20
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but LEEETS GOOOO
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Apr 28, 2021 00:26
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The answer is to not have sports divided by gender, and also to allow athletes to use whatever PEDs they want. That's why you have different leagues. The absolute monsters end up at the top league and it filters down from there based on natural ability and skill.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:30
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Iain posted:I still don't know how I feel about children being given that much input on themselves, a part of me wants to say it is not something they understand. But it is definitely something I don't understand as well. We understand it just fine, thank you. What fucks us up as children is being told that we're just confused, and being denied information. If I understood that transitioning was an option, I would have done it then, and I would have fought like hell until I got to, instead of having to do it fifteen years after the irreparable damage done to my body by going through the wrong puberty. You're correct, it's something you can't understand - so maybe don't speak for trans children.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:32
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boop the snoot posted:https://twitter.com/potus/status/1387123131500924929?s=21 AFAIK it's pretty much all he can do as president since Congress proved they won't pass a minimum wage increase.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:33
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Yeah, and there's more than just a handful of people who that gives a raise. Also  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 28, 2021 00:39
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So the only comedian i ever heard of rogan getting really upset about at the time for stealing jokes was Carlos Mencia. Then i watched other vids and rogan just shrugs off the guest saying Amy Schumer was stealing jokes and in another clip saying that a lot of working comedians were getting weekly checks from Robin Williams for it. But the first time i could find Roman bringing that up was after Williams had died. I dont know if Rogan believes anything really other than Men Are Assholes so he'll take whatever position at the time is most contrary to the most amount of people to hurt as many feelings as possible because hes a Manly Man.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:01
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Stravag posted:So the only comedian i ever heard of rogan getting really upset about at the time for stealing jokes was Carlos Mencia. Then i watched other vids and rogan just shrugs off the guest saying Amy Schumer was stealing jokes and in another clip saying that a lot of working comedians were getting weekly checks from Robin Williams for it. But the first time i could find Roman bringing that up was after Williams had died. I dont know if Rogan believes anything really other than Men Are Assholes so he'll take whatever position at the time is most contrary to the most amount of people to hurt as many feelings as possible because hes a Manly Man. The Carlos Mencia thing was almost twenty years ago and Rogan's done a lot of drugs since then. I'm pretty sure he's long since fried his critical thinking centers.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:07
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You all should check out the podcast Henry and Heidi. It's not on Spotify but it's on Podcast Addict.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:09
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The Carlos Mencia thing was almost twenty years ago and Rogan's done a lot of drugs since then. I'm pretty sure he's long since fried his critical thinking centers. Christ was it? I remember mind of Mencia was when i was in high school. I still FEEL like I'm 22 this getting old thing is bullshit
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Apr 28, 2021 01:10
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I stopped listening to depressing round table discussion podcasts and my life is better for it.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:11
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KirbyKhan posted:Oh man, I never thought it'd be me walking the line of gently caress you. That's it. That's the post.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:11
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Stravag posted:Christ was it? I remember mind of Mencia was when i was in high school. I still FEEL like I'm 22 this getting old thing is bullshit It might've been closer to fifteen than twenty but gently caress looking that poo poo up.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:12
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Logan Paul getting his rear end beaten will now be June 6.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:17
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https://twitter.com/byashleyhackett/status/1387099161166848004?s=19 I can't wait
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Apr 28, 2021 01:25
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Kazinsal posted:I genuinely believe Rogan has done enough weird research psychotropics that part of his consciousness no longer resides on our plane of reality. The man would probably read through the classic phenazepam threads and go "ha ha yeah man I've been there" at all the stories. I could see Joe Rogan "eyeballing" some Joose
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Apr 28, 2021 01:27
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Volkova III posted:We understand it just fine, thank you. What fucks us up as children is being told that we're just confused, and being denied information. If I understood that transitioning was an option, I would have done it then, and I would have fought like hell until I got to, instead of having to do it fifteen years after the irreparable damage done to my body by going through the wrong puberty. Maybe attacking someone expressing interest in continuing to learn about something and making a baseless accusation isn't the best way to have a constructive dialogue and win people onto the side of moving this issue in the right direction.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:33
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boop the snoot posted:https://twitter.com/potus/status/1387123131500924929?s=21 400,000 mostly Black and brown people just got a big raise but it's not space communism so I guess boo succdems?
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Apr 28, 2021 01:33
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Meanwhile, India is clearly not happy with people literally dying in the streets from the collapse of their health care system, and is preparing to allow for another religious festival in Jammu- which is critically underserved by health care in the best of times. https://www.dw.com/en/covid-india-to-allow-amarnath-pilgrimage-despite-surge-in-cases/a-57341771 I feel like I’ve had an epiphany and came to the profound realization that ultranationalist government really isn’t good for anyone who likes remaining alive.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:38
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Stultus Maximus posted:400,000 mostly Black and brown people just got a big raise but it's not space communism so I guess boo succdems? It's a good thing, but I read earlier that the federal contractor minimum wage was already $10.80. It's more just generalized irritation that the reason the minimum wage isn't $15 nationwide is because Senate Democrats still don't understand the gameboard they're on. No matter what they do, Republicans are going to bullshit and lie about it and run on the bullshit/lies in 2022. Truth won't matter, the playing field isn't even, and they won't be able to cut through the bullshit and lies. The only move is to do a shitload of popular, easy-to-digest good poo poo. A $15 nationwide minimum wage is popular, easy-to-digest good poo poo and Democrats won't do it due to decorum nonsense from a pile of Senators. It's annoying, even if Biden could do that good thing on the margins. pantslesswithwolves posted:I feel like I’ve had an epiphany and came to the profound realization that ultranationalist government really isn’t good for anyone who likes remaining alive. When bad poo poo goes down, ultranationalists can either fix it or lie about it. Door #2 is always picked.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:41
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Stultus Maximus posted:400,000 mostly Black and brown people just got a big raise but it's not space communism so I guess boo succdems? I'm not hopeful about the party actually trying to fight for $15 minimum wage during this presidency. I'm glad the President did this, but agree that it feels limp after how quickly the Dems gave up on the first shot at increasing the minimum wage.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:48
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Mob guys and ultranationalists intersect heavily over tribalism. "Only my gang on top." When the national identity combines with the gang identity, whoo boy. No wonder espionage, business and organized crime go hand in fist in glove in your face.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:50
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A Bad Poster posted:The answer is to not have sports divided by gender, and also to allow athletes to use whatever PEDs they want. That's why you have different leagues. The absolute monsters end up at the top league and it filters down from there based on natural ability and skill. The problem with unlimited PEDs is that many of them are really destructive and the people at the most risk of getting hosed up by them aren't the top-tier athletes, but the people on the roster bubble who feel they need the boost to stay on the team. There's also the issue of PEDs filtering down into youth sports, where kids are encouraged to gently caress themselves up in order to go pro. Like, pro sports already fucks people up in a large number of ways, throwing PEDs on top of that is a pretty big overall negative imo
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Apr 28, 2021 01:56
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I saw dudes doing roids for second rate high school wrestling teams in Louisiana in the mid 90s. Propagation of them is bad and widespread.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The problem with unlimited PEDs is that many of them are really destructive and the people at the most risk of getting hosed up by them aren't the top-tier athletes, but the people on the roster bubble who feel they need the boost to stay on the team. There's also the issue of PEDs filtering down into youth sports, where kids are encouraged to gently caress themselves up in order to go pro. It would bring it into the daylight at least. It's happening at all levels and part of the reason a bunch of nasty poo poo gets used is because it's not screened for. If it was permissible then there would be incentive to use safer stuff so you'd have a longer and more lucrative career. We've already proven that prohibition doesn't work, why keep pretending it does?
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