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Venomous posted:impact matters far more than intent Depends what you're talking about, even in a single case. The impact of the smears against Corbyn matters more than the intent in terms of e.g. contributing to Labour losing the election, upsetting people who were convinced by the smears that Labour was actually riddled with anti-Semitism etc. The intent of the smears matters in analysing where they came from, judging the character of the people using them etc.
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Gonzo McFee posted:What did he do I skip past thread drama that I didn't personally cause He Vitamin Posted.
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Gonzo McFee posted:What did he do I skip past thread drama that I didn't personally cause Had a weird personal grudge against me up to accusing me of gaslighting after I quoted him before he edited out a typo, and has spent the last couple of months generally harrassing me
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Apr 28, 2021 10:29
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 he fell off a ledge and died about three seconds later dammit kieth
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Apr 28, 2021 11:00
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That can't be the real kieth, he'd only play on a good strong british console like the zx spectrum
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Failed Imagineer posted:https://twitter.com/edballs/status/63623585020915713?s=19 I never noticed before he posted this at 4:20
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il_cornuto posted:Depends what you're talking about, even in a single case. The impact of the smears against Corbyn matters more than the intent in terms of e.g. contributing to Labour losing the election, upsetting people who were convinced by the smears that Labour was actually riddled with anti-Semitism etc. To be honest, I've felt pretty consistently that the AS stuff didn't really make a huge difference in the overall voting intention. It gave liberals a "correct" reason to say they weren't voting for Corbyn, but I daresay many of them wouldn't have voted for him anyway. All AS did was give the media an easy topic to hassle Corbyn about rather than giving him space to talk about nationalising sausages. His whole treatment by the media still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, years later.
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Tomberforce posted:After years my Tory family is starting to come round to the idea that Johnson is actually a monster but I can't capitalise on it because Keith. And now you know why Keith.
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Butternubs posted:Not specifically related to this discussion, but as a general statement this is BS. People can read almost any intent into any statement, intent is more important than how people interperate it. Honestly trying to equivocate people believing smears with people getting offended at a bad taste joke kinda misses the entire point.
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Apr 28, 2021 11:27
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I kinda like how enthusiastically this thread eats its own tbh. Means you have to stay on your toes and really consider if what you're posting is worth it. Cuts down on the chaff.
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Necrothatcher posted:I kinda like how enthusiastically this thread eats its own tbh. Means you have to stay on your toes and really consider if what you're posting is worth it. Cuts down on the chaff. I think the posters that have been thread banned got more than a fair shake and were allowed to continue posting inflammatory garbage for way longer than was maybe appropriate. I mean there is already plenty of headroom for garbage posters (  ) itt without releasing the hounds imo
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Flayer posted:That can't be the real kieth, he'd only play on a good strong british console like the zx spectrum forkboy84 posted:I never noticed before he posted this at 4:20
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Necrothatcher posted:I kinda like how enthusiastically this thread eats its own tbh. Means you have to stay on your toes and really consider if what you're posting is worth it. Cuts down on the chaff. Stay on your toes? This is ableist, BRING OUT THE WICKER MAN
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Necrothatcher posted:I kinda like how enthusiastically this thread eats its own tbh. Means you have to stay on your toes and really consider if what you're posting is worth it. Cuts down on the chaff. Yeah I'm gonna be very careful with what I post about monster munch cause now the thread needs a new person to bully out Rumda posted:Had a weird personal grudge against me up to accusing me of gaslighting after I quoted him before he edited out a typo, and has spent the last couple of months generally harrassing me Yeah it was extremely weird. All that over some incomprehensible meltdown over being quoted
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Guavanaut posted:That was Ed Miliband. That's pretty deep man. Balls deep 
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Communist Thoughts posted:Yeah I'm gonna be very careful with what I post about monster munch cause now the thread needs a new person to bully out Na the initial trigger for the big blow up we him thinking that the GICs were a paragon of trans healthcare admired the world over
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Oh yeah lol P even admitted they were wrong about that but couldn't let the quote thing go though
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They were teetering on the edge of a thread ban for a while, let's not pretend this wasn't coming.
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Starmer looks infinitely better with a Billy Connolly goatee thing going on.
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ITV showed person on the street interviews in hartlepool yesterday evening asking people if boris's flat and his half dozen other scandals this week would influence their vote and two people out of 3 were like NAH HE DESERVES IT HE WORKS HARD AND HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB ISN'T IT LEGEND M8 LOL like that
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Apr 28, 2021 12:16
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Yeah, this is peak Trump, where people won't care about Boris grifting because everyone does.
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Pmqs was an absolute horror show for Boris. I know nobody watches it but there isn't a single soundbite that could be spun positively for him.
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PMQs appears to have been Keir asking about the flat and Boris asking why he's so bothered about wallpaper. Another forensic dissection ^ admittedly that's based on the guardian blog which always makes it seem like Boris glides through every week
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the sex ghost posted:PMQs appears to have been Keir asking about the flat and Boris asking why he's so bothered about wallpaper. Another forensic dissection No it really is bollocks. No attempt to answer any questions, pre-prepared lines in response and noone gives a poo poo anyway. The question from some northern Tory MP asking him to congratulate someone about fixing a water leak... it's farcical.
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https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1387369090981969920 Nice meltdown, Boris. https://twitter.com/DaleyNixon/status/1387369179817209857 
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Apr 28, 2021 12:36
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The people of West Yorkshire don't care about curtains
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blunt posted:https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1387369090981969920 Holy poo poo he still pulls out the "take back control" line every time he speaks regardless of the question he was supposed to be answering.
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stev posted:Holy poo poo he still pulls out the "take back control" line every time he speaks regardless of the question he was supposed to be answering. It's election season, after Starmer all of the pet tory layups were engineered for the PM response to plug the slogans and candidates for the local/mayoral election next week. If anything Johnson somewhat regained composure and labour dug in on the refurb thing for too long It's fine though because an ex spook is going to clear him of any wrongdoing https://mobile.twitter.com/tianran/status/1387353211846209536
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the sex ghost posted:PMQs appears to have been Keir asking about the flat and Boris asking why he's so bothered about wallpaper. Another forensic dissection As a strategy, waiting for the government to do a crime, and then making the case for why and how they should be punished is not necessarily the worst. It certainly should be a thing he has plenty of experience of. The downside is the waiting part; you can’t control the timing of when the crimes get investigated. And if too many people have already given up on you by the time a nice juicy government crime comes out, then you probably won’t turn things around.
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I'm waiting with my  for the inevitable revelation of Dyson being the money behind BodgeJobs curtains and wallpaper.
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Salisbury Snape posted:I'm waiting with my It's some guy you've probably never heard of but who is worth £271 million and was made a peer in 2019. Completely unrelated, he gave the Tory Party £714,690 in 2017 (and presumably has given a lot more in other years not listed on wiki). The amount of money that the last few Tory-run governments have funnelled to his business interests is undisclosed.
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Butternubs posted:Not specifically related to this discussion, but as a general statement this is BS. People can read almost any intent into any statement, intent is more important than how people interperate it. In that case I don't know that there's any healthy thing to do except try and ignore them. I don't think franco in particular is an inherently bad person. Maybe I'm misjudging them. But I wouldn't have typed all of that if I didn't think the post was an exception rather than the norm.
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Also I feel like I say this every time the press take a Boris scandal seriously but it will never cease to amaze me that Boris could be brought down by filling in the forms wrong over decorating his flat rather than the deaths, corruption or affairs.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/28/covid-nhs-app-will-be-used-as-vaccine-passport-for-foreign-travelquote:NHS app will be used as Covid ‘vaccine passport’ for foreign travel Well I hope they're going to make it compatible with non-smart phones / android 3 or android 4 then. Either that or provide latest up to date smart phones for folk. So many of these apps these days only work on iRubbish or Android 10 or whatever.
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Hello, I am submitting my application as a writer for Have I Got News For You: It's curtains for Boris!
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