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I'm pretty sure that airlines have given up on screening flyers and I'm pretty sure flights to and from India are on as normal
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carry on then posted:even if COVID is eliminated, there are many other diseases prevented by these measures, so it’s a moral imperative that the current masking, social distancing, and stay at home orders be made the new normal perpetually wife had a patient die late last week who was fully vaccinated. took them down quickly too they're currently trying to determine if it was a variant that's immune to the mrna vaccines or what, the CDC got involved real fast apparently
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I haven't had so much as a mild one-day cold since last February which is pretty nice. maybe they could do some messaging around that.
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Truman Peyote posted:I haven't had so much as a mild one-day cold since last February which is pretty nice. maybe they could do some messaging around that.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:wife had a patient die late last week who was fully vaccinated. took them down quickly too cool
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Apr 28, 2021 15:32
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:wife had a patient die late last week who was fully vaccinated. took them down quickly too everyone who told me i was being a doomer when i said there are variants that just walk right past the vaccine can go and gently caress themselves completely
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idk why that’s surprising though it’s not like vaccines make you 100% immune, especially if you become immunocompromised not saying the cdc shouldn’t investigate though obviously but there’s always gonna be outliers
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Chris Knight posted:what's up, buck?
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Cold on a Cob posted:idk why that’s surprising though it isn't surprising, but there's a certain contingent of people who seem dead-set on finding the absolute worst interpretation and take on everything imaginable to justify their own hosed-up bullshit
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:wife had a patient die late last week who was fully vaccinated. took them down quickly too he’ll yeah
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yeah she said all the staff are real freaked out, she apparently didn't hafta directly interact with this one at least (they've been doing the ipad video conferencing thing where possible) the current speculation is that it might not've been a variant and this patient just wasn't effectively vaccinated, but there's nothing concrete yet
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:yeah she said all the staff are real freaked out, she apparently didn't hafta directly interact with this one at least (they've been doing the ipad video conferencing thing where possible) Apparently Chile's issue right now is that everyone was told it was fine and dandy to go do their summer holiday stuff before a critical mass of citizens were vaccinated and people went and did just that. Good thing that'd never happen here.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I'm pretty sure that airlines have given up on screening flyers and I'm pretty sure flights to and from India are on as normal 50 passengers on a flight from india to hk just tested positive on arrival despite requiring a negative test result to be presented on departure given a multi day incubation they probably didn’t catch it on the plane
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carry on then posted:everyone who told me i was being a doomer when i said there are variants that just walk right past the vaccine can go and gently caress themselves completely there's not really evidence for that though. covid sucks so much because our bodies generally haven't seen anything like it and your immune system's response to it can be so severe that it ends up killing you. once you've either been vaccinated or had it your body figures out what to do with it and the mortality rate becomes tiny. yeah, it's probably going to keep circulating and mutating because we're not vaccinating fast enough to stomp it out properly, and people with vaccinations will start to become more susceptible to infection after a year or so when the antibodies start falling off but at that point its just another thing that floats around during cold/flu season
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:there's not really evidence for that though. covid sucks so much because our bodies generally haven't seen anything like it and your immune system's response to it can be so severe that it ends up killing you. once you've either been vaccinated or had it your body figures out what to do with it and the mortality rate becomes tiny. yeah, it's probably going to keep circulating and mutating because we're not vaccinating fast enough to stomp it out properly, and people with vaccinations will start to become more susceptible to infection after a year or so when the antibodies start falling off but at that point its just another thing that floats around during cold/flu season  You might want to look at how effective AZ is against P.1 in this chart. (Note that P.1 isn't widespread in the US and the US isn't using AZ, but it just shows how wrong it is to make a claim about efficacy of vaccines against variants in general).
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isn’t 63% still pretty good for a vaccine?
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glad to be a Pfizer man
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The Fool posted:glad to be a Pfizer man weird way to announce your erectile dysfunction but ok
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PIZZA.BAT posted:isn’t 63% still pretty good for a vaccine? Even 63% is really not very good though, considering that the vaccines we're using in the US have >90% efficacy against the strains we have in the US right now though, and considering the percentage of the population that's vaccinated. If P.1 becomes widespread in the US we're pretty hosed. mystes fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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mystes posted:I didn't say Pfizer. Please try again. 63% would be a pretty successful vaccine actually, if not overwhelmingly amazing this is not to be taken as a defense of anyone or anything
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how much of this horse poo poo could be avoided if they were just called vaccine A, B, and C instead
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mediaphage posted:63% would be a pretty successful vaccine actually, if not overwhelmingly amazing The 10% efficacy of AZ against P.1 is just loving horrible though. (Again, before anyone freaks out, this doesn't affect the US because we aren't using AZ and right now there's almost no P.1 in the US). Anyway, my main point was just to say that variants are already affecting the efficacy of the vaccines and new variants are guaranteed to continue to occur before it would be possible to vaccinate most of the world in the most optimistic scenario, so it's a huge mistake to think that everyone is just automatically protected for a year regardless of variants. mystes fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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ces is on for january 2022 lol
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:went to the dentist for the first time in over a year. I chipped the side of my back molar pretty badly last december and just rolled with it because I was pretty sure the toothpaste I'm using would seal it up for me. Chip when down even to the root a bit and he spent over a minute prodding at it trying to get me to flinch in pain or something before giving up and just agreeing to polish off the sharp edge instead of doing a filling. novamin rules did he do the "freeze test"
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mystes posted:I mean yeah, 63% (and 70% protection against developing systems) is much better than nothing but it means that almost half of people who are exposed are still going to transmit it to other people and if only 40% of the population is vaccinated in the first places that is very loving not good. AZ is used all around the world though, meaning as we all know that there will continue to be variants brewing that the other vaccines may not be able to protect against graph posted:ces is on for january 2022 lol worst part about writing about tech was going to CES (actually it was E3...the smell...but CES was close). and i would always try and make sure people would get vaccinated for the flu before going because you ALWAYS got sick at CES if you didn't, i swear to god
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Truman Peyote posted:how much of this horse poo poo could be avoided if they were just called vaccine A, B, and C instead i follow a couple small streamers and one night last week there was a heated debate because evidently moderna is giving people blood clots! We're so hosed
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mediaphage posted:worst part about writing about tech was going to CES (actually it was E3...the smell...but CES was close) as soon as yos favorite joanna was reassigned she went to twitter and said thank god she never had to go ever again haha
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mystes posted:Are you seriously saying that the efficacy of current vaccines is not affected by mutations in current covid variants? LMAO you love too see it
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mystes posted:I didn't say Pfizer. Please try again. oh i didn't read the second half of your post, yeah
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Well that doesn't seem great https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1387397186372005893
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carry on then posted:everyone who told me i was being a doomer when i said there are variants that just walk right past the vaccine can go and gently caress themselves completely eh, everyone’s immune system is different, the most effective vaccine still may not actually grant immunity to everyone even against the variant that vaccine was designed for. if it starts happening to hundreds or thousands of people then you should start to be worried, but a few dozen people getting hospitalized or dying after hundreds of millions vaccines have been administered can still be basically “100% effective at preventing hospitalization and death” and just down to stuff you can’t catch in the smaller efficacy trials.
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Fabricated posted:Well that doesn't seem great does this mean that the vaccine-carrying virus can replicate itself and spread to other people? sounds like a bonus!
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EIDE Van Hagar posted:bidetabase lmao
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Sagebrush posted:does this mean that the vaccine-carrying virus can replicate itself and spread to other people? sounds like a bonus!
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Sagebrush posted:i have a friend who used to work at the las vegas convention center and he said ces was great in the 2000s because vendors would just throw poo poo out at the end. he got so many cool weird phones and stuff they still did when i was going because they don't want to take it home but it results in a lot of "giveaways" at the show now though
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mystes posted:Are you seriously saying that the efficacy of current vaccines is not affected by mutations in current covid variants? LMAO I mean, yeah? Those numbers are still pretty good as far as vaccines go and the infection rate isn't as important if it isn't straight up merking a bunch of people
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carry on then posted:everyone who told me i was being a doomer when i said there are variants that just walk right past the vaccine can go and gently caress themselves completely Nope, youre still a doomer idiot.
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