Maximo Roboto posted:

that's just stealing Swedish heraldry

indigi posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/amw_english/status/1386887276559577089

this is pointless and unhelpful adventurism

_{(I am mocking myself for the uniformed dumb thing I said about the last time this happened)}

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If you want peace prepare for war, drat I Love that.

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what people don't realize is that China today is completely different from China in the past.

China today adheres to the proverbs of Chairman Mao and President Xi.

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For once, I agree with the statement of Teddy Boy Locsin. If only Duterte understands Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum.

President of the USA Joe Biden posted:

Look, we can't be so busy competing with one another that we forget the competition that we have with the rest of the world to win the 21st century. As Secretary Blinken can tell you, I spent a lot of time with President Xi, traveled over 17,000 miles with him, spent over 24 hours in private discussions with him. When he called to congratulate me, we had a two-hour discussion.

He's deadly earnest about becoming the most significant, consequential nation in the world. He and others, autocrats, think that democracy can't compete in the 21st century with autocracies because it takes too long to get consensus. To win that competition for the future, in my view, we also need to make a once-in-a-generation investment in our families and our children.

President of the USA Joe Biden posted:

The investments I propose tonight also advance the foreign policy, in my view, that benefits the middle class. That means making sure every nation plays by the same rules in the global economy, including China. My discussions -- in my discussions with President Xi, I told him, we welcome the competition. We're not looking for conflict.

But I made absolutely clear that we will defend America's interest across the board. America will stand up to unfair trade practices that undercut American workers and American industries like subsidies from state to state owned operations and enterprises and the theft of American technology and intellectual property.

I also told President Xi that we’ll maintain a strong military presence in the Indo-Pacific, just as we do with NATO and Europe. Not to start a conflict, but to prevent one.

President of the USA Joe Biden posted:

With light and hope, we summoned a new strength, new resolve to position us to win the competition of the 21st century.

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/search?q=tajikistan%20war&src=typed_query&f=live

ummm apparently Tajikistan is sending tanks into Kyrgysztan over fresh water

crepeface posted:

does it have anything to do with the fact water started being traded on the stock market 6 months ago

THS posted:

reposting this cause i realized it was probably more applicable here

lol today Jacobin published an interview about xinjiang with a spook, sean roberts, who has worked extensively with USAID and now writes for radio free europe and radio free asia



how does this keep happening??

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Since U.S. President George W. Bush declared war on “terrorism” in 2001, the People’s Republic of China (PRC) has continually suggested that it is fighting its own “war on terror” against militants among the Uyghurs, a Muslim minority, which has a long history of resisting Chinese rule over its self-proclaimed homeland in the PRC’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR).1 Unlike America’s highly visible and externally focused anti-terrorism efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, China’s “war on terror” has received little attention outside the PRC because it has been mostly waged over the last ten years in a relatively isolated part of the country. As this paper suggests, however, the entire premise of China’s “war on terror” is problematic because it remains unclear whether a militant Uyghur organization even exists that is capable of carrying out substantial and organized acts of terrorism. Furthermore, as the paper also argues, the questionable nature of the PRC’s counterterrorism activities has been obscured by international actions and “expert analysis” that have helped to reaffirm and perpetuate the narrative promoted by the PRC about the terrorist threat it faces from the Uyghurs.

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Little is known about ETIM, and few if any Uyghurs or scholars studying Uyghur political movements had heard of the organization prior to 2001.

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Although one can justifiably question the accuracy of the statements of Uyghur detainees at Guantanamo concerning their activities in Afghanistan, it is notable that their statements generally do not contradict each other—they offer a cohesive story about their associations, or lack thereof, with Al-Qaeda and the Taliban as well as about the relatively benign nature of the alleged ETIM camp in which they lived.

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While all of the detainees clearly articulated their animosity towards the Chinese state, those who had not come to Jalalabad explicitly for combat training were ambivalent at best about the prospect of participating in armed struggle.

Zedhe Khoja posted:

the fuzzy border is slowly being ironed out.

indigi posted:

why is the border fuzzy? wouldn’t it have been sorted out during the Soviet era?

indigi posted:

why is the border fuzzy? wouldn’t it have been sorted out during the Soviet era?

Zedhe Khoja posted:

probably not, in this case. this is fighting over a piece of machinery not necessarily the water supply it's tapped into

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crepeface posted:

would the increasing scarcity of water due to it being traded make it valuable enough to start a war?

either way.... guess who's buying a big water cooler and turning it over their head like gatorade at the end of a football match in a decadant show of wealth

gradenko_2000 posted:

I keep getting called wumao elsewhere on the interwebs

Or ten cent army

Zedhe Khoja posted:

Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan both need outside assistance to build projects like this. Every piece of ex-soviet infrastructure they keep is one more thing they don't have to beg China/Russia/USA for. And, while water is increasingly a conflict point in the region, this doesn't really change the water reserves the respective sides control, and Tajikistan is currently the least worried about water reserves since they both control the least amount of Ferghana farmland and the most amount of Ferghana water. On paper they're swimming in uh, water. Despite this there's huge issues with water distribution and tons of people are water insecure due to a lack of infrastructure.

gradenko_2000 posted:

sorry, apparently it's actually 50 cent army. it's a reference to how people suspect that China has an army of internet posters to defend it online, and that they're paid 50 cents per post

crepeface posted:

everyone who's trying to point out the warmongering propaganda against our largest trading partner in the auspol thread is getting called a tankie or a paid shill lol.

Zedhe Khoja posted:

there's been a general reactionary turn in "liberal" spaces across the board. China is the most obvious symptom, but MENA policy, subsaharan African policy, and Latin American policy have all seen an entrenchment of Trump era policy/rhetoric and Obama realpolitik among the so-called left.

Also an "Israel is decolonization actually" take got posted in the I/P thread so that shits broken twitter containment.

Zedhe Khoja posted:

Not bothering linking cuz it's just twitter people translating but Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan have agree to settle the border dispute through talks and Putin's offered to mediate.

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As for Ulygurs claiming it's all good. Paul Rassinier was a prisoner at Buchenwald and denied the holocaust saying he never saw any Jews being killed. They tested poison and firebombs at his camp, on the prisoners, amongst other things. Why should I believe this? Of course there will be deniers from within. Have you looked at modern Chinese history? I actively studied it academically. They are really good at getting you to change your mind and say what they want.