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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:The whole thing is unhinged but uhhh, what? A couple weeks ago Japan announced plans to start releasing tritium-contaminated water from Fukushima into the ocean. The real story: they're going to re-purify the water, dilute it to 1/40 the amount of tritium allowed in drinking water, and, starting in a few years, release the contaminated water over a span of up to 40 years. What conservatives heard: THEY'RE GONNA TURN THE OCEAN RADIOACTIVE  Also, Ben almost certainly still believes that a radioactive cloud is headed our way from Fukushima. Aaaaaany day now.
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quote:You said you DO believe in infringing because nothing about our Constitution is ‘absolute.’ At least, according to you. So you can change everything as you see fit Yes, that's literally how the Constitution was created to be! It was specifically created to be able to be changed, since the founders knew that they weren't perfect beings who could create an eternal document that would be applicable for all the possibilities of society! That's why there's amendments, to change the Constitution! quote:Trans people suffer from one of the highest rates of suicide in the nation. Yes, because assholes like you refuse to accept who they are and want to subject them to abuse and ridicule and fear, as well as deny them medical care!
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Twelve by Pies posted:Yes, because assholes like you refuse to accept who they are and want to subject them to abuse and ridicule and fear, as well as deny them medical care!
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Grapes so sour I thought I had walked into a winery. A whinery, if you will.
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I have to admit, I'm still baffled by them pulling out suicide statistics at all. Like... what is it supposed to prove other than transphobes being utter monsters? Is it some kind of "and then they they had the NERVE to bleed to death on MY carpet after I repeatedly stabbed them" thing?
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After The War posted:I have to admit, I'm still baffled by them pulling out suicide statistics at all. Like... what is it supposed to prove other than transphobes being utter monsters? Is it some kind of "and then they they had the NERVE to bleed to death on MY carpet after I repeatedly stabbed them" thing? My understanding of their logic is "being transgender is a mental illness that causes people who suffer from it to commit suicide at high rates; therefore we should treat these trans people and make them cis again so they no longer have the mental illness and don't want to kill themselves anymore". It's ignorance and transmisia dressed up in crocodile tears.
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:My understanding of their logic is "being transgender is a mental illness that causes people who suffer from it to commit suicide at high rates; therefore we should treat these trans people and make them cis again so they no longer have the mental illness and don't want to kill themselves anymore". It's ignorance and transmisia dressed up in crocodile tears. It isn't. That's just the lie that they'll say to the regular people under the hopes that their bigotry will be disguised, and so they won't come to the proper conclusion. Yes, even your sweet ma' from church is lying with this pretense. They know the truth about it being because of societal bullying, they just believe in the justness of bullying. It's your own fault really, you just shouldn't be different. Stop hitting yourself.
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Yeah, Conservatives bringing up suicide rates of LGBT people is like when they bring up how many murders there were in Chicago over the weekend. They don't do it because they actually see it as a problem that they want to see fixed, they bring it up because they see it as moral justification for the way they treat other groups of people. Hell, I remember back even in the early 10's, "pro-family" conservatives weren't exactly shy about their intentions. Nowadays they've softened it down to this dog-whistle bullshit, so if you call them out on it they can pivot to "No, you see, we don't hate them, we love them, we want what's best for them!"
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Garrison doesn't want to help trans people, but he's using language that pretends like he does. He calls it a "delusion" and says that "mutilation damages people" and then mentions the suicide rate. It's clear what he's doing, he's heavily implying that "mutilation" (despite the fact not every trans person gets surgery) damages trans people mentally as well as physically and that's why they're committing suicide. To someone who's ignorant about the situation, it makes it sound like trans people go "Oh no I have committed a horrible mistake and destroyed my body" once they transition and then commit suicide out of regret. I think it was Glenn Beck a few years back I heard saying that even trans people who lived as the gender they identify as have similar suicide rates to those who don't. I don't know if the study is bullshit or not but I would imagine even if that's true (a big if), it's because they have family members or other people in their lives who won't support them, or even outright attack them, as well as poo poo like maybe getting harassed by people because they "don't look feminine/masculine enough." So again, even if that claim was true, the lesson isn't "don't attempt to transition," it's "people should stop being assholes and accept trans people." But again, Garrison and people like him want to put up the pretense of "Oh we're just trying to help them!" when in reality they don't give a poo poo, they're just using a convenient argument to try and persuade others to be anti-trans.
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War Wizard posted:It isn't. That's just the lie that they'll say to the regular people under the hopes that their bigotry will be disguised, and so they won't come to the proper conclusion. Yes, even your sweet ma' from church is lying with this pretense. They know the truth about it being because of societal bullying, they just believe in the justness of bullying. Of course, sorry. I meant it was the logic behind the lie, not what they actually think; poor wording on my part.
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I remember people using the same excuse for gay people like a decade ago. It’s just the same poo poo repackaged for new hatreds.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Yeah, Conservatives bringing up suicide rates of LGBT people is like when they bring up how many murders there were in Chicago over the weekend. They don't do it because they actually see it as a problem that they want to see fixed, they bring it up because they see it as moral justification for the way they treat other groups of people. I mean, the formulation "I'm doing this horrible thing to group x because I love group x" has been stock for conservatives since forever. Aside from the fact it implicitly cast themselves as parents scolding children, it's let them be as lovely and abusive as they want while telling themselves they're the good guys. See any Adam4D comic where his mouthpiece character always uses the phrase, "I have a lot of gay friends and love gay people" before talking about all the ways they should be systematically persecuted and excluded from society.
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Allow me to redecipher this. the Leak line is a blighted lineage sent to punish mankind
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Raised By Birds posted:Kevin Necessary Kellies Nomination: Laziest Non-Gorrell
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Pants Donkey posted:I remember people using the same excuse for gay people like a decade ago. It’s just the same poo poo repackaged for new hatreds. Yeah it's the exact same thing: gay people have higher rates of depression and suicide, therefore persecuting them is for their own good because it will make them want to turn straight and then they won't be so depressed about being gay anymore
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Yes Mike, that's how taxes work. People, including you and other people, pay them, and then the government is supposed to throw that money at problems that can easily be solved with money.
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I think the sticking point for me is the nature of the claim. It's like the politoons that, if you don't already know the artist's leanings, come across as the exact opposite of the intended point. It's just incomprehensible to me that "suicide rates are higher among queer folks," isn't universally processed as "this is caused by individual and systemic bigotry." "Queerness itself causes suicides," seems like a total non sequitur, but it's taken as a given. Does this come from a "queerness is mental illness, mental illness causes suicide" thought process? That's not even getting into how that's supposed to mesh with the exact same fuckers going "trans women are just straight men actively trying to gain access to women's spaces," but that's pretty basic  poo poo.Anyway, thanks for humoring me. It just feels like a self-defeating form of concern trolling outside the intended audience.
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After The War posted:I think the sticking point for me is the nature of the claim. It's like the politoons that, if you don't already know the artist's leanings, come across as the exact opposite of the intended point. It's just incomprehensible to me that "suicide rates are higher among queer folks," isn't universally processed as "this is caused by individual and systemic bigotry." "Queerness itself causes suicides," seems like a total non sequitur, but it's taken as a given. Does this come from a "queerness is mental illness, mental illness causes suicide" thought process? I see what you mean, but for one thing Garrison really is preaching to the choir. For another, the argument "save kids from turning trans!!" substitutes moral outrage for logical coherence. You'll notice Garrison has no trouble interpreting any evidence as support for his worldview. This has been called a self-sealing worldview: Linda Riebel posted:Self-sealing doctrines can be found in other places too—some of them uncomfortably close to home. Psychoanalysis made some valuable contributions to understanding the human psyche, but its founder was convinced that his theories were universally true, and any challenge was simply further proof of them. https://www.saybrook.edu/unbound/linda-riebel-self-sealing-doctrine/
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:Mallard Fillmore - Loren Fishman He has the excuse of being a foreigner he’s never even visited America though.
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:Mallard Fillmore - Loren Fishman Kellies nomination: worst gaslighting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrel3vVfK4 Get hosed.
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:Prickly City - Scott Stantis and Eric Allie I wonder how much Winslow, a literal coyote, will lose due to the increase in capital gains taxes.
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Sorry, slight derail, but how the gently caress can states pass laws effectively making murder legal? Isn't that a federal crime? Could a state pass a law granting immunity to knife-holders whose knife hits a person? UK goon here so I'm just sitting over here going full from over the Atlantic.
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