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Yesterday I upgraded the firmware of my boat's battery charger. Over bluetooth. Weird future we live in.
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# ? Apr 26, 2021 18:48 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 03:51 |
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We have a Gulfstar 50 in the fleet, great boat. Built like a brick shithouse, handles like a brick shithouse. If I was going to spend the rest of my life floating around on a boat a Gulfstar is definitely near the top of the list.
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# ? Apr 26, 2021 20:39 |
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So...shithouse is a compliment? Got it. Good bote. I would love it, too.
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# ? Apr 26, 2021 22:01 |
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dialhforhero posted:So...shithouse is a compliment? Got it. A shithouse (or outhouse) is a temporary building to keep wind/rain/eyes off you while you're making GBS threads outside. To build one out of brick is considered overly sturdy/reliable. They are also not known for handling well. Cat Hatter fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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dialhforhero posted:What ARE the look for-s and do/don'ts of buying a sailboat, though? I think the other intimidating thing is "What is a good brand/model" and since almost all boats on the market seem to be used, how can you avoid getting a lovely boat? I hear all the time how buying a boat is the best worst decision ever and I think a lot of that comes down to naivete or ignorance in boats. Just like a house, you won't know what is wrong until you live in it but I mean, now that I own a 100 year old house I know what the gently caress to look for! Unfortunately, working on boats isn't like working on a car and it seems like it is waaaaaay easier to buy a bad boat unknowingly versus a car. Buying a boat 100% is a terrible idea and nobody should do it, but yet we still do. This is the wrong forum for getting talked out of bad ideas.
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 01:42 |
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Elmnt80 posted:Buying a boat 100% is a terrible idea and nobody should do it, but yet we still do. This is the wrong forum for getting talked out of bad ideas. The one exception is if you're within a couple hours drive of me and it's a coolboat I want to ride, in which case there's literally never been a better time to buy!
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 02:01 |
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Elmnt80 posted:Buying a boat 100% is a terrible idea and nobody should do it, but yet we still do. This is the wrong forum for getting talked out of bad ideas. (I still don't own a boat, though)
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 12:27 |
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Boats are great!... And by that I mean great holes in the water you pour money into
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 14:47 |
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I mean there certainly are days where I daydream selling my house and buying a 6 figure boat to live on. For you know, reasons. Phantasy reasons.
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 20:23 |
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dialhforhero posted:I mean there certainly are days where I daydream selling my house and buying a 6 figure boat to live on. For you know, reasons. Hrngg. I moved from the midwest to the west coast, took some sailing lessons, and now I own about a dozen books on sailing yacht design with at least two different hull design programs on my PC. I want to DESIGN a boat and live on it. That's REALLY never going to happen.
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 22:04 |
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boxen posted:Hrngg. Never say never! What if your nose happens to be the same shape as a revolutionary new keel design that could win the America's Cup?!
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 22:34 |
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dialhforhero posted:What ARE the look for-s and do/don'ts of buying a sailboat, though? I think the other intimidating thing is "What is a good brand/model" and since almost all boats on the market seem to be used, how can you Like the others have said, find a local sailing buddy. They're not hard to find, skippers are always looking for more crew for beercan races. Local skipper can steer you towards a good deal, or avoid 20 years of deferred maintenance. Each market is different, the tends to be more of a type of boat in the geographic region of a particular boat yard. Outside of california nobody has heard of a Moore 24, a 1970s design that's one of the most popular keel boats in the area. Same with Express 27/37
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 22:46 |
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boxen posted:Hrngg. Well not with that attitude.
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 22:58 |
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Does anyone know how in the olden times people got dry and warm? Like in the 1400s or whatever. Imagine you’re sailing by the Arctic, you’re wet as hell and absolutely freezing. How tf do you get warm??? You probably couldn’t have a fire on an old wooden boat rifht?
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 23:33 |
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Karma Comedian posted:Well not with that attitude. I approach life with casual pessimism, it leads to being pleasantly surprised more often. Honestly, over the last year I've been trying to buy a house, and the market for that is mental. To build a boat of the size I'd ideally want (40+ feet), I'd need around a 1/4" acre lot, with at least 15' wide trailer access to the site... that's difficult to find in a metro area. Don't have to live on the same land as the boat is being built on, but I'd need access to the land for years, if not decades. All of this is before material and design costs, I'd probably hire a naval architect to look over the plans, cost of mast and rigging, electronics.... Plus, all the money I would spend on building a boat is money spent on not just buying something I like well enough and going sailing on a not-perfect-dream-boat. Still, it's fun to think about. In AI, how many people dream of what'd sort of machine they'd build if they had time and money?
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 23:39 |
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Bape Culture posted:Does anyone know how in the olden times people got dry and warm? Like in the 1400s or whatever. Imagine you’re sailing by the Arctic, you’re wet as hell and absolutely freezing. How tf do you get warm??? You probably couldn’t have a fire on an old wooden boat rifht? Sand and bricks could make a hearth for cooking: https://collection.thedockyard.co.uk/objects/8916 To keep warm in general, though, I think you just wore lots of clothes.
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# ? Apr 28, 2021 23:48 |
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Bape Culture posted:Does anyone know how in the olden times people got dry and warm? Like in the 1400s or whatever. Imagine you’re sailing by the Arctic, you’re wet as hell and absolutely freezing. How tf do you get warm??? You probably couldn’t have a fire on an old wooden boat rifht? There were indeed fires on a ship, but it was mostly for cooking. Also: layers! Layering makes you look fab-u-lous! And it's alllllll wool and linen. That being said: people loving died a lot and not just from hypothermia.
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 03:42 |
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boxen posted:Hrngg. This is a thing?!
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 04:06 |
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Erwin posted:This is a thing?! Delftship is the #1 Freeship is supposedly a cone clone General workflow seems to be to design it on free licence of delftship, then autocad 360 from the final delftship file, and then print via 3D printer I ordered a 3D printer a couple weeks ago with the intent on designing and printing some boat hulls On a sidenote, I have an extra copy of Robert Perry's naval architecture book if someone needs one, I think he sold the last new copy last month
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 04:30 |
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Just saw my boat written about in a book by Bruce Roberts Wow
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 04:33 |
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As if having one boat isn't dumb enough, we bought another this week. She's a 1998 Formula 34PC and has all the creature comforts: generator, AC, etc that will allow us to stay aboard on weekends this summer.
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 05:03 |
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Erwin posted:This is a thing?! Hadlock posted:Delftship is the #1 Delftship is one, Polycad is the other. Polycad has a free 30 day trial, then you just email the dude who made it and ask for a key. The 3D print thing is something I plan on doing hopefully in the next year or so. Probably won't bother making an actual sailable model, but still something maybe 2-3 feet long.
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 05:46 |
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Hadlock posted:Delftship is the #1 Thanks! I have a 3d printer and have wanted a desktop model of our boat, so maybe this will help me make that happen. Karma Comedian posted:Just saw my boat written about in a book by Bruce Roberts
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 13:32 |
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Scrapez posted:As if having one boat isn't dumb enough, we bought another this week. What’s she currently rocking for engines? Twin 454s? I googled the model to take a quick look and that’s an impressive price range:
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 17:07 |
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Yes twin 454s. This one has inboards which is a change for me. I've always had outdrives on my boats. That is quite the price range. This one was definitely toward the lower end of that scale. Needs a few things but nothing major. Has been slipped and maintained at my marina for the last 10 years so I know it's been fairly well taken care of. I have a 4 year old so having a generator/AC while on the water will be a game changer.
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 18:44 |
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Kesper North posted:Never say never! What if your nose happens to be the same shape as a revolutionary new keel design that could win the America's Cup?! This is an exceptionally obscure reference. Could you please pass the salt?
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:This is an exceptionally obscure reference. Could you please pass the salt? Thank you! I'd love to, but I'm afraid I never did get the hang of Thursdays.
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 02:07 |
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dialhforhero posted:Ahoy. Where are you on the Chesapeake? I started with hanging out on a friend's too-big-for-him Bristol 35, that was a handful. After that I purchased my own beat to poo poo Catalina 25, started out with always suckering in at least one friend to go out. Since then I have moved up to a very nicely kept Catalina 27. What I believe is the perfect size for me and a small family in shallow waters. I also am now in a very still / well protected marina. Docking and undocking is really the trickiest thing when I go out solo. Start slow, go out on calm days, and just gradually get more familiar with things. The premise is the same, every boat is a little bit different. I even raced in frostbite this past winter on another Catalina 27, still had differences compared to mine, there is always some adjustment required.
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 02:46 |
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Got on a Thistle with some juniors who needed a club member to go Portsmouth racing last night. I now remember why I stopped sailing Thistles. I can still out-hike those little shits though. First over the water in all 3 races but I think a Laser or two probably got us corrected.
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bigdookie posted:Where are you on the Chesapeake? I started with hanging out on a friend's too-big-for-him Bristol 35, that was a handful. After that I purchased my own beat to poo poo Catalina 25, started out with always suckering in at least one friend to go out. Since then I have moved up to a very nicely kept Catalina 27. What I believe is the perfect size for me and a small family in shallow waters. I also am now in a very still / well protected marina. Docking and undocking is really the trickiest thing when I go out solo. Start slow, go out on calm days, and just gradually get more familiar with things. I am in the Hampton Roads area. If I were in the market to buy, I have been eyeing/dreaming of a Catalina 30 and similar hull sizes. I want something I can spend a while day on and possibly take out, and stay on, for a weekend that will have the roominess for friends and size to not feel like you’re getting too pounded around in light waves.
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Crunchy Black posted:Got on a Thistle ... but I think a Laser or two probably got us corrected. Just curious, but how does, uh, dinghy-PHRF work, and does it account for skipper weight etc? I never really looked into it but I just assumed that all dinghies were one design for some reason
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# ? May 2, 2021 18:56 |
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I'll be completely honest with you, Hadlock, I have no loving clue. There, apparently, is some sort of Portsmouth "yardstick" rule; I'd reckon it makes about as much sense as IOR does to PHRF. I was just trimming jib and ripping my abdominals apart. Mostly it's just fun to get out on a little boat and remember what its like to be a kid again and get your hair wet hiking. I just checked and the Club doesn't publish results for Portsmouth like they do Wednesday PHRF, via email. I texted the skipper to see whats up.
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# ? May 5, 2021 10:32 |
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I got this stupid toy for my birthday. I'm literally James Bond now.
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# ? May 5, 2021 18:20 |
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That owns
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# ? May 5, 2021 18:22 |
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Splashed last weekend, got the mast on today. The first time we took the mast off and on it was just intensely confusing and scary and took forever because we just had no idea what we were doing. This is our third season now so things went a lot smoother, with just one small mishap. Note to self: mast cranes have one heck of a lot of mechanical advantage, so if things suddenly start feeling heavier, don't push it or you'll end up like this poor guy: 7/16" turnbuckle screw for the shrouds, tragically got stuck and bent out of shape on the way up. It's probably bronze and not stainless though so the forces involved weren't all that huge. Fortunately we had not one but two spare turnbuckles in storage for occasions like this so things could proceed. This brings me to a question though. How do y'all lock your turnbuckles? On the borrowed boat I used to sail on we locked them with stainless steel rings like cavemen and it was a huge pain in the rear end involving pliers, bleeding and swearing. On this boat we have two solutions, one of which is also a pain and which I want to get rid of. The damaged screw had that one, so I replaced it. The solution we have that I do like is similar to a product I see on the US market called the Johnson handy-lock, but not exactly the same. We had one spare so I installed that one on the replacement turnbuckle, but I can't find it for sale here anymore and I don't know where the previous owner got them (they're now on 5 out of the 6 turnbuckles we have). The handles are really neat to have when tensioning and it's really convenient to lock and unlock. The mainstream alternative here seem to be a thing called sure-clip which is basically just a snap-on pin. I guess I could get that but I'll miss the handles. Sorry for the rambling - any thoughts?
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I've bent a few lower t-bolts raising my Catalina 22's mast, I'd imagine I'd bend even more if I had fixed forks like that. I carry spares. As for securing the turnbuckles, I have a two different methods because I have kind of a hodgepodge of turnbuckle hardware. I've got some older fittings that don't have a hole for locking at the end of the thread, so I have left/right handed nuts to lock the turnbuckles. Where I've replaced the hardware and have the holes, I use small-gauge stainless steel welding rod as safety wire. I cut a 6-8" piece and run it through both ends, and then bend it back towards the center of the turnbuckle and then wrap the deal with e-tape so it can't snag anything (also have PVC pipe rollers over the h/w is it's not a problem.) It looks like poo poo but it's cheap, easy and works.
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# ? May 9, 2021 18:16 |
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This thing is awesome. Splashed my Spray a week ago! She floats! Her rudder post leaks! Looks like it's just a stuffing issue though.
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# ? May 10, 2021 00:09 |
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TheFluff posted:
ex.: Melges 24 guys use the handled turnbuckles cause they can adjust on the fly. We're not allowed to adjust rig tension on the J24 unless between races and its actually illegal to do so once the P flag is up. On the Flying Tiger we used scar pins which are the velcro bits with metal that go through the hole in the end of the standing. On the J90 we...don't give a gently caress because it's solid rod and if we do something to move those buckles, we've hosed up. My advice, if you're worried, get a couple of short pieces of Dyneema and tie all the buckles on each side together, I've seen plenty of folks do that.
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TheFluff posted:This brings me to a question though. How do y'all lock your turnbuckles? On the shark the inner and outer turnbuckles are right beside each other, so we just loop a small rope through the open space in the turnbuckles connecting the inners and outers together so that they can't rotate.
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