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Hedgehog Pie posted:The week after the quad injury even, they aired a long video package of him in the hospital and reiterated that he was able to finish the match despite being in tremendous pain. The clips were non-kayfabe and had him and Stephanie together acting normally, prety much confirming that they were a couple in real life as well as off-screen. On one hand it was commendable because it was a horrible injury and it hammered that home, but on the other hand WWF hardly changed the way they treated their workers, and I don't recall them giving this treatment to anyone else around this time - including Benoit, who went out with a similarly awful injury shortly afterwards. Say what you will about HHH but him taking a liontamer from Jericho on the table after he tore his quad is something loving else. Look at Nash or if it happened to me, you lay there until the paramedics arrive. There's no finishing the match!
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BodyMassageMachine posted:First time watching this in years, lol to how heroic they tried to make Trips feel: laughing my rear end off at trips hitting ppl w sledgehammers and chairs over and over while the bono sings "ITS A BEAUTIFUL DAY"
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1glitch0 posted:Say what you will about HHH but him taking a liontamer from Jericho on the table after he tore his quad is something loving else. Look at Nash or if it happened to me, you lay there until the paramedics arrive. There's no finishing the match! Did Sami Zayn get a whole tribute package produced when he blew his shoulder out in his match against Cena?
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It should go without saying that what made him getting so huge in 2002 so alarming was that he had already gotten gigantic to be Main Eventer Triple H in '99. He just got EVEN BIGGER.
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I laugh thinking about how everyone was excited for him to return, even jobbers in backstage segments, then one guy who I cannot recall popped up and was like "what's wrong with you loving idiots? This is HHH, he's just gonna come back and return to beating the poo poo out of us with hammers"
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imagine hhh came back in 2002 with a motorhead cover of beautiful day. god im so mad this never happened
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I don't even think Cena has gotten a tribute package like that. Angle did two years later when he came back from neck surgery. To Clocks by Coldplay of all loving things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaryn8QUyUo
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Today is the day I finally learned the name of that irritating loving song.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Today is the day I finally learned the name of that irritating loving song. Did you? Or were you thinking of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zudbz4hOcbc
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davidbix posted:It should go without saying that what made him getting so huge in 2002 so alarming was that he had already gotten gigantic to be Main Eventer Triple H in '99. He just got EVEN BIGGER. Yeah. What really hammered it home was seeing him in WCW and there Trips is downright skinny comparatively speaking.
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah. What really hammered it home was seeing him in WCW and there Trips is downright skinny comparatively speaking. Hell, even if you look at his build for the street fight with Mick where Mick wins in Long Island (the one where all 3 personas of Mick do a promo pre match), he's built but not in like, a cartoonish way
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Lamuella posted:Did you? Or were you thinking of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zudbz4hOcbc I’ll slap the poo poo out of you. Then slap it back into you.
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah. What really hammered it home was seeing him in WCW and there Trips is downright skinny comparatively speaking.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbwtoEoenPM Surreal to see him do that, even if it's kinda bad vs. say, even Viscera doing the same move. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPFFpXz2LtU&t=65s
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NameHurtBrain posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbwtoEoenPM I don't remember... Viscagra That's my question
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I remember Viscera's move being called a rolling coppo kick in the Smackdown games, and Liger having the same move. That definitely ain't no spinning heel kick.
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Did everyone forget, or have I just been here for far to long, that HHH was referred to as  here during his reign of terror.
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Custard Undies posted:Did everyone forget, or have I just been here for far to long, that HHH was referred to as I remember someone requesting this.
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anakha posted:I remember Viscera's move being called a rolling coppo kick in the Smackdown games, and Liger having the same move. Eh, I guess maybe X-Pac's Spinning Heel Kicks look more akin to what a 'good' looking one would be. Gambit from the X-Men posted:I don't remember... The fat man likes sex. So much that he sexually assaults his opponents. The  was always there, we just had distractions to it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCrgG3P9SjE rewatching this and laughing at the thought of a WWE version of Good Will Hunting with Limp Bizkit instead of Elliott Smith on the soundtrack
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BodyMassageMachine posted:When did “20min rambling promos that ultimately set up the main event for the night” actually become a thing? Early Raws/Nitros seem to go into random matches first, THEN angles (or maybe a short starting promo followed by the opening match). It seems easy enough to point at the Attitude Era for the starting point (which, because it worked then, clearly influenced how WWE would run their programming the following 20+ years), but is there a distinct angle/promo/person that kick-started the (very annoying) trend? I think in '97, as the Austin/Hart thing was ramping up, on most Raws one of them would open the show by talking, then there'd be a pull-apart fight, and that would set up a match later. After WM14, the show usually opened with Vince, Austin, Rock, or someone else to demand a match, or do a thing. By the time HHH was on top, he opened every show with a 20-minute promo about whatever, and usually ended with setting up his match later.
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The only time a HHH centric Raw was good was when he and Batista teased breaking up and fighting, only for it to be revealed as a ruse to trick Benoit or Edge or something. Audience went mental at the idea of Batista kicking Hunter's rear end. I think this contributed to WWE going all in on Batista.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:The only time a HHH centric Raw was good was when he and Batista teased breaking up and fighting, only for it to be revealed as a ruse to trick Benoit or Edge or something. Audience went mental at the idea of Batista kicking Hunter's rear end. I think this contributed to WWE going all in on Batista. When Batista finally turned on Triple H, it was one of the coolest moments ever on Raw, marred slightly by the backstage segment that showed HHH and Ric Flair talking about what an idiot Batista was while he listened from around a corner. It was a very cheesy, unneeded bit.
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I'm watching Austin-Taker from SummerSlam 98 and boy these guys did not have any chemistry at all in the ring. I know they wrestled a bunch but did they ever have a good match against each other?
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The Highway to Hell video package was cooler than any match they ever had. I dunno. I don’t think that match-up ever really worked, in the ring and story wise.
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cauliflower jones posted:I'm watching Austin-Taker from SummerSlam 98 and boy these guys did not have any chemistry at all in the ring. I know they wrestled a bunch but did they ever have a good match against each other? But yeah, by the time they feuded, Taker was about to go on a run of being REALLY bad in the ring. So bad that in what was, historically speaking, the biggest match of their endless feud (the title switch on the post-King of the Ring '99 episode of Raw that still holds the cable TV wrestling viewership record) the finish was hideously and irreparably mistimed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08BcGGZjYQ&t=107s I have no recollection of their first PPV match (May 1997 In Your House) being particularly good, but now I'm kind of curious to check it out again since it has a much, much better version of Taker than the one Austin feuded with in '98-'99.
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The Stone Cold/Undertaker/Kane feud drags on and on and it sucks. “Are undertaker and Kane in cahoots?!?” Who carrressss
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I remember enjoying the First Blood match at Fully Loaded that finally ended that feud, but I haven't watched it in a donkey's age, so I don't know if I'm just looking at it with rose-tinted spectacles. The 1997 match was OK, as I recall.
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Seams posted:The Stone Cold/Undertaker/Kane feud drags on and on and it sucks. “Are undertaker and Kane in cahoots?!?” Who carrressss
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I really enjoyed their Fully Loaded match. It had a big fight feel, stipulations that would have had big consequences (if WWE didn't just handwave them away six weeks later), tons of drama in the build, lots of run ins and extras to hide what bad shape both Austin and Taker were in, and felt like the culmination of the middle part of the Attitude Era. The stipulation itself kinda sucks because the match would have been better with plenty of blood and not ending at the sight of the first drop.
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davidbix posted:*collusion *cahoots
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davidbix posted:*collusion Oh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByO5l00uxKY&t=51s
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Collusion in Korea.
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Watching Summerslam 96 and I'm curious about what happened with Vader/Shawn. Obviously there's that one spot where Michaels goes up for the elbow, lands on his feet, kicks Vader in the head, and then yells at him. But then there's also Michaels hitting the superkick and Hebner not counting a three despite Vader not moving at all. It wasn't meant to be the ending based on the rest of the match, so something went weird. Was Vader hosed up or out of it or something? Why the elbow drop issue? Why forgetting to kick out (apparently)?
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What is the best Shawn Michaels match?
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Kosmo Gallion posted:What is the best Shawn Michaels match? My vote is against Mankind at Mind Games.
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TL posted:My vote is against Mankind at Mind Games. It's a loving great match. I'd also accept his ladder match with Scott Hall or his WM match w/Jericho.
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Kosmo Gallion posted:What is the best Shawn Michaels match? The Undertaker Hell in a Cell
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