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Dylan16807 posted:Carbon credits fail because the systems are set up badly, not because all forms of paying to reduce carbon are doomed to failure. If someone cuts down 10 acres of rainforest and uses the profits to replant 1 acre of rainforest that's not a benefit, hope this helps
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Raised By Birds posted:Steve Kelley Seriously. What is up with that skin colour.
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Pope: Rowe: Kudelka: Tasmania's election is today. Both major parties have done the usual song and dance about how they will govern in a majority or not govern at all. Leak, Son of Leak: There are proposed changes to the school curriculum to teach the Indigenous perspective on the British colonisation of Australia which means kicking off some classic culture war stuff; the education minister has already been on Sky News and complaining about dishonouring our "Western heritage". New curriculum teaches cultural diversity, dumps ‘Christian heritage’ (The Age). Australia’s school curriculum: what are the proposed changes, and what’s the fuss about ‘invasion’? (Guardian) Leunig:
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UZworm posted:If someone cuts down 10 acres of rainforest and uses the profits to replant 1 acre of rainforest that's not a benefit, hope this helps Sure, but if someone cuts down 10 acres of rainforest to replant 20, it's at least worth weighing the tradeoff. Selling an NFT has a measurable carbon cost, so if you use the money you get from selling it to capture a larger amount of carbon, that is a net benefit.
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SubG posted:Skelley is making a common mistake. The President of the Senate is Kamala Harris, that's Kamala Harris' monster. Someone needs to show him how to use the dropper tool.
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Kaza42 posted:so if you use the money you get from selling it to capture a larger amount of carbon
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Vib Rib posted:you don't The average NFT contributes 211 kg of carbon emissions over its lifespan according to this article, which was the only one I could find willing to name an actual amount. Direct air capture (the least efficient means of carbon capture I found) can cost up to about $345 per ton of carbon. This comes out to $0.345 per kg, or just under $73 to capture the carbon created by selling an NFT. Unless my numbers are off by a lot, it seems very doable to offset the cost of an NFT by donating to carbon capture. The one from the comic is selling for $240 and donating half. And $120 > $73. So it is sounding an awful lot like you can
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Trapezium Dave posted:Leunig: Kellies Nomination: Whiniest Cartoonist (I know it's not a category, but...) Also, that Skelley is hilarious. Yes, people did move away from California and New York! ... to Colorado, which is blue, and Texas and Florida, which are trending bluer. Kaza42 posted:The average NFT contributes 211 kg of carbon emissions over its lifespan according to this article, which was the only one I could find willing to name an actual amount. A lot of the environmental complaints about NFTs are predicated on them having Bitcoin-level energy expenditures. In truth, most of them are based on Ethereum, which has a much lower carbon footprint - it's still not good, but it's not as hyper-destructive as Bitcoin (the analogy I saw, if I'm remembering correctly, is that an Ethereum transaction is equivalent to traveling 100 miles in an electric vehicle, while a Bitcoin transaction is equivalent to traveling 4000 miles). SneezeOfTheDecade fucked around with this message at 00:46 on May 1, 2021 |
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Its a dumb waste of resources no matter how you try to sell it
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Moon Slayer posted:And what do these guys think is going to happen to our grandkids if we continue with deficit spending? That around 2050 the US will have to declare bankruptcy?
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Raised By Birds posted:Matt Davies
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:A lot of the environmental complaints about NFTs are predicated on them having Bitcoin-level energy expenditures. In truth, most of them are based on Ethereum, which has a much lower carbon footprint - it's still not good, but it's not as hyper-destructive as Bitcoin (the analogy I saw, if I'm remembering correctly, is that an Ethereum transaction is equivalent to traveling 100 miles in an electric vehicle, while a Bitcoin transaction is equivalent to traveling 4000 miles). And people have been tossing more tires on the etherium fire precisely because of poo poo like the NFT fad. This time last year etherium network was consuming around 10 TWh/year. Currently it's something like 40 TWh/year. For comparison the bitcoin network is something like 105 TWh/year. So the current etherium mania has pushed its energy consumption from being something a little less than a tenth of bitcoin's to a little more than a third.
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SubG posted:This is like saying that a lot of the environmental complaints about people tossing tires onto the Shelbyville tire fire fail to take into account that it's smaller than the Springfield tire fire. No, it's like saying that a lot of the environmental complaints about people tossing tires onto the Shelbyville tire fire fail to realize that there are tire fires other than the Springfield tire fire and believe that the people in Shelbyville are tossing tires into the Springfield tire fire. Like I said, Ethereum is not good. And like I have said many times elsewhere, NFTs are grifts taking advantage of very stupid people with too much money. I'm glad to have the update on Ethereum's power usage, though.
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Who's face is on that money, Ramirez? Other people? Raised By Birds posted:Michael Ramirez I'm exhausted by other people's stupidity and cruelty. What a loving monster.
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War Wizard posted:I'm exhausted by other people's stupidity and cruelty. What a loving monster. He's just openly saying "the police needing to make sure that their behavior is legal is a bad thing".
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Moon Slayer posted:One of these, I'm guessing? Nah, the faces are what reminded me. They were these small toys, little warrior dudes from a different world, as toys usually are. Each one came with half of a hollowed out rubber ball, which was the draw. You'd invert the rubber ball, attach the little dude to a bit inside, then drop it down to make the little guy shoot into the air. They were all named after american presidents.
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:He's just openly saying "the police needing to make sure that their behavior is legal is a bad thing". How on earth are police supposed to stop crimes if they aren't allowed to freely commit them?
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:No, it's like saying that a lot of the environmental complaints about people tossing tires onto the Shelbyville tire fire fail to realize that there are tire fires other than the Springfield tire fire and believe that the people in Shelbyville are tossing tires into the Springfield tire fire. Ethereum's energy consumption today is more or less what bitcoin's energy consumption was two years ago, and it has more or less doubled this year alone. So unless you're trying to make a very narrow argument predicated on bitcoin just becoming "hyper-destructive" right this minute because it's passed some invisible line that ethereum won't pass for six months or so, then any environmental argument against bitcoin applies more or less equivalently to ethereum.
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SubG posted:Which is to say, it's a nonsensical argument. Because nobody calling burning tires stupid is making a geographic argument. The problem is that burning tires is inherently stupid, and the more tires you burn the worse it gets, whichever tire fire you throw any individual tire into. Ethereum is currently a smaller tire fire than bitcoin. But that doesn't mean that throwing tires on the ethereum fire is "not as hyper-destructive" as tossing tires on the bitcoin fire, because the only reason why the ethereum tire fire is smaller than the bitcoin tire fire is that (currently) fewer tires are being thrown on it. Okay. Two things. First: you appear to not actually be reading past, like, the first sentence of my posts, because if you read any farther than that you wouldn't be able to score your Sick Internet Points. Second: you appear to be arguing that literally any energy expenditure is exactly as bad as the worst possible energy expenditure, so I applaud you for connecting to the internet by plucking a string attached to a can that feeds into a modem that you power by pedaling a bicycle or something. You are not making yourself look good here. You look like a loving obnoxious moron. Take a step back and rethink how you're approaching this, and maybe - just maybe - consider reading the posts you're replying to.
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All y'all need to stop with the argument. There's a tech thread you can go to complain about cryptocurrency at each other, I strongly suggest you do so.
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the_steve posted:All y'all need to stop with the argument. There's a tech thread you can go to complain about cryptocurrency at each other, I strongly suggest you do so. Absolutely true. It's a dumb argument and I was mad for dumb reasons. Sorry for polluting the thread.
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I mean, "NFTs are bad. Now buy my NFT." is pretty odd, even if the intent was good. Joe Heller Kevin Necessary
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Raised By Birds posted:Joe Heller Kellies nomination: Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon also, is the switch from Gaybies to Kellies official? because the OP needs an update if that's the case
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Raised By Birds posted:Michael Ramirez Wow, he sure picked up on this story quickly! https://twitter.com/NYTMetro/status/1388184898436018191
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Since it was pointed out... Raised By Birds posted:Steve Kelley Kellies nomination: worst caricature (Kamala Harris)
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Since it was pointed out... You mean to say, she's not an olive cylinder with doopy eyes? Yeah, I concur. Kellies nomination: worst caricature
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I just noticed she's the same colour as the cupboards. Cupboards aren't normally green either but, being made of wood, I bet they're often brown. Somehow that particular brown ended up a green across the whole panel. E: also the woman has no right arm. That coffee mug, along with some fingertips (), is just hovering Microplastics fucked around with this message at 07:27 on May 1, 2021 |
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Moon Slayer posted:And what do these guys think is going to happen to our grandkids if we continue with deficit spending? That around 2050 the US will have to declare bankruptcy? Is there any sort of downside to US government debt? Is there any amount of debt you believe would be too high?
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For what it's worth, I am also deeply disappointed in myself. stringless fucked around with this message at 10:44 on May 1, 2021 |
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Raised By Birds posted:Kevin Necessary That plumber should stick to plumbing and stop meddling in the affairs of the mushroom kingdom.
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Xander77 posted:Ok. Just to reverse the usual anti-conservative argument of "what do you think is a good % of income tax and good use of the government income?"... Well if the interest on the debt were higher than GDP that would be too high for sure
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FFT posted:For what it's worth, I am also deeply disappointed in myself. You made it a manga?
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Raised By Birds posted:Steve Kelley Even if this is true in measurable numbers, it's not like red states don't have blue cities in them. Which is likely where the majority of people would move. Alternatively: capitalist policies are making it more and more expensive to live anywhere, forcing people to accept their miserable fate and move to a cheaper, less desirable red state.
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I'm looking forward to see if Dandeliongate makes it into the next Garrison: https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1388505363046191104
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Raised By Birds posted:Kevin Necessary This cartoon is the thread’s spirit animal.
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Moon Slayer posted:I'm looking forward to see if Dandeliongate makes it into the next Garrison: Aw, that's sweet. (But I stubbornly insist on liking dandelions. Maybe Jill does too?)
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:He's just openly saying "the police needing to make sure that their behavior is legal is a bad thing".
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Grimdude posted:Even if this is true in measurable numbers, it's not like red states don't have blue cities in them. Which is likely where the majority of people would move. Some right wing media figures have even figured this out and are fearmongering it. I think Glenn Beck has talked about how people moving from California to Texas are turning the state bluer and might cause more Dems to get elected on the state level.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Some right wing media figures have even figured this out and are fearmongering it. I think Glenn Beck has talked about how people moving from California to Texas are turning the state bluer and might cause more Dems to get elected on the state level. Funny enough, my understanding is that the opposite is true. Native Texans are going bluer while the people moving to Texas are redder.
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Biden picked a flower for his wife is approaching Obama wore a tan suit, or Obama asked for spicy brown mustard level of bizarre non-story to fixate on.
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