|
MassRafTer posted:Uncensored 96 with the Doomsday cage did the biggest PPV number in company history. Actually I think you’ll find Starrcade 97 did the biggest buyrate
|
#
?
May 1, 2021 21:54
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 22:28 |
|
|
I think I heard once that they finally managed to not lose money in 95 even if business hadn’t really blown up yet, is there anything to that?
|
|
#
?
May 1, 2021 23:56
|
|
|
IIRC Business really didn't get profitable till Zane Bresloff fully took over house show promoting and WCW was touring with the Savage/Flair feud
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2021 00:43
|
|
|
Maxwell Lord posted:I think I heard once that they finally managed to not lose money in 95 even if business hadn’t really blown up yet, is there anything to that? They showed a very slight profit in 1995 which was partially due to Turner book keeping but you gotta play the game.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2021 00:44
|
|
|
Yeah, wasn't the big thing that Bischoff did his job and got the creative accounting to work in WCW's favor in 1995.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2021 04:05
|
|
|
karmicknight posted:Yeah, wasn't the big thing that Bischoff did his job and got the creative accounting to work in WCW's favor in 1995. Wouldn't that be running off cuts Watts had already made?
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2021 14:49
|
|
|
Dawgstar posted:Wouldn't that be running off cuts Watts had already made? No, Bischoff was increasing spending dramatically which Watts wasn't allowed to do.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2021 15:14
|
|
|
MassRafTer posted:No, Bischoff was increasing spending dramatically which Watts wasn't allowed to do. Did they get any kind of decent return on the spending for music acts like Master P, Kiss, or the Misfits?
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2021 16:20
|
|
|
Red posted:Did they get any kind of decent return on the spending for music acts like Master P, Kiss, or the Misfits? Oh no. No increased ticket sales and decreased ratings on the musical interludes.
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2021 16:21
|
|
|
Didn't Master P's posse get some ridiculous payout like $50K per appearance? Talk about nice work if you can get it.
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2021 16:28
|
|
|
I think they were paying Big Swoll something like $400k a year.
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2021 16:31
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1389249020900614144 oh no
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2021 17:04
|
|
|
i like lash leroux’s sideburns
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2021 19:11
|
|
|
How much did WCW pay for Konnan's music video and did it help at all, anywhere, with the four times a night they showed it?
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2021 20:49
|
|
|
Oil of Olay, all day erry day
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2021 21:55
|
|
|
Halloween Jack posted:Oil of Olay, all day erry day
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2021 06:08
|
|
|
Nick Jr. Face posted:Disco Inferno's only noteworthy contribution to the business Now now, there's always the duck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_qmZPdZcI
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2021 14:28
|
|
|
MassRafTer posted:They showed a very slight profit in 1995 which was partially due to Turner book keeping but you gotta play the game. This is a topic that has always really bothered me about Bischoff's podcasts and his constant complaints that "oh we were always so wildly profitable (under me) but the drat accountants kept moving money to other divisions and so they cut us off at the knees." I've worked in accounting at a conglomerate where there are a lot of business overlaps and transfers between divisions. In fact, the company had the exact kind of intracompany dealings he complains about. It's always SO widely known amongst everyone in the business how the real numbers work out that I find it hard to believe that accounting is even remotely a valid excuse for his relationships with corporate. Agreed completely that "you've got to play the game" as you say. What's bothered me about bischoff is that he portrays himself as this amazing turnaround artist/ corporate warrior, but in the same breath blames the drat suits for him not having any profits he could point to.
|
|
#
?
May 6, 2021 02:53
|
|
|
Disco’s greatest moments are: 1) the konnan parody 2) the time he tapped out immediately in a match because if he had been hurt he couldn’t do all his dance moves 3) the time mr wonderful brutally squashed Disco for checking out his hair in Mr. Wonderful’s mirror
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2021 13:12
|
|
|
CopywrightMMXI posted:3) the time mr wonderful brutally squashed Disco for checking out his hair in Mr. Wonderful’s mirror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Of2QC3-bpo
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2021 14:15
|
|
|
*****1/2
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2021 14:23
|
|
|
CopywrightMMXI posted:Disco’s greatest moments are: 4) The time La Parka interrupted his entrance 
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2021 16:55
|
|
|
There was also the time Madusa crashed Colonel Parker and Sherri's wedding, and during the chaos the camera panned to just catch Disco pinching a couple of champagne bottles.
|
|
#
?
May 7, 2021 17:29
|
|
|
Disco laying out the instructions for his leglock on the mat and the one time the cards were scrambled up and confused him.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 01:52
|
|
|
Angry_Ed posted:4) The time La Parka interrupted his entrance god I loved La Parka
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 02:08
|
|
|
RC and Moon Pie posted:Disco laying out the instructions for his leglock on the mat and the one time the cards were scrambled up and confused him.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 03:51
|
|
|
Didn’t Disco also come up with the idea for Jericho’s 1007 holds?
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 09:31
|
|
|
Disco sucks, but the possible trio of him, Alex Wright, and Tokyo Magnum could have been gold and they never went through with it really.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 09:36
|
|
|
Anything with Alex Wright is gold.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 11:31
|
|
|
jesus WEP posted:Didn’t Disco also come up with the idea for Jericho’s 1007 holds? No, Jericho got it from a Canadian wrestler named Leo Burke. He had a manager named Floyd Creechman, and when Creechman introduced Burke as the man of 1002 holds, the interviewer said "I thought he was the man of 1000 holds", Creechman deadpans and goes "He learned 2 more"
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 13:01
|
|
|
El Gallinero Gros posted:No, Jericho got it from a Canadian wrestler named Leo Burke. He had a manager named Floyd Creechman, and when Creechman introduced Burke as the man of 1002 holds, the interviewer said "I thought he was the man of 1000 holds", Creechman deadpans and goes "He learned 2 more" Floyd Creatchman. An absolute legend in the Montreal territory. Criminally underrated manager.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 14:49
|
|
|
stab posted:Floyd Creatchman. An absolute legend in the Montreal territory. Criminally underrated manager. I was pretty close. What little I've seen of Leo Burke suggests he ruled too, I know Bret Hart was a big fan of his work. quote:After retiring from full-time wrestling, he went to Calgary in the early 1992. His old rival and real-life friend Bret Hart arranged a position for Cormier as a trainer for the World Wrestling Federation (WWF, now World Wrestling Entertainment). Cormier helped train Ken Shamrock, Mark Henry, Adam Copeland (known as Edge in WWE), Jason Reso (known as Christian in WWE), and Andrew Martin (known as Test in WWE).[1] He also trained two former Canadian Football League players for their careers in professional wrestling: former Edmonton Eskimo Jeff Thomas, who later opened his own wrestling training school,[29][30] and former Ottawa Rough Rider Glenn Kulka, who went on to compete for the WWF.[31] I didn't know he was involved in training so many people. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 15:27 on May 8, 2021 |
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 15:03
|
|
|
"Goldberg has a scheduled match with Disco, lays out Alex Wright beforehand, beats Disco in two moves, then beats up Mongo" sounds cool in theory but it was all done reaaal sloppy. Elsewise that would've been a top Disco moment
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 15:41
|
|
|
El Gallinero Gros posted:I was pretty close. The canadian pipeline for wrestling even with every single barrier the United States puts in front of them to succeed is quite astonishing in the quality and frequency of top wrestlers it churns out imo.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 18:55
|
|
|
stab posted:The canadian pipeline for wrestling even with every single barrier the United States puts in front of them to succeed is quite astonishing in the quality and frequency of top wrestlers it churns out imo. The large metropolitan areas (except Saskatchewan, which Stampede would run) all having major territories probably helped since the NWA wasn't shy about doing business with Canada. Doesn’t hurt that AWA ran in Winnipeg, too. Jericho spoke warmly of going to shows as a kid.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 19:27
|
|
|
El Gallinero Gros posted:The large metropolitan areas (except Saskatchewan, which Stampede would run) all having major territories probably helped since the NWA wasn't shy about doing business with Canada. Oh yeah Maple Leaf, Lutte Internationale, and the AWA/NWA were huge helps back then. Now, 0% chance a Canadian wrestler can make it without having to put the time in across the border (and playing Russian Roulette on a 5 year ban). And the Visa process? It's outrageous. 5k for the CHANCE to work in the US. American wrestlers coming to Canada? They don't need anything. I can rant on the border bullshit for the Indys for ages, thanks for asking.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 19:46
|
|
|
El Gallinero Gros posted:No, Jericho got it from a Canadian wrestler named Leo Burke. He had a manager named Floyd Creechman, and when Creechman introduced Burke as the man of 1002 holds, the interviewer said "I thought he was the man of 1000 holds", Creechman deadpans and goes "He learned 2 more" Having only vaguely heard of Burke and never heard of Creechman, this sounds like a great bit. Malenko or Jericho should have stolen it verbatim.
|
|
#
?
May 8, 2021 21:59
|
|
|
The theory of Disco Inferno is fantastic. The man inhabiting him, not so. Disco Inferno's debut (and first few weeks) on Saturday Night were different. Disco was paired up against guys that jobbed every single time on syndicated TV. With little previous introduction, you thought this would be another squash. Then Disco started dancing too much, got distracted and rolled up. This repeated for a few shows. (At least, that's my memory of how it played out.)
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 01:49
|
|
|
stab posted:Oh yeah Maple Leaf, Lutte Internationale, and the AWA/NWA were huge helps back then. Lance Storm seemed to have some success getting guys into WWE without much US exposure, for a while anyway. What’s he up to these days?
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2021 22:26
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 22:28 |
|
|
Sandman McMahon posted:Lance Storm seemed to have some success getting guys into WWE without much US exposure, for a while anyway. What’s he up to these days? did some agenting for Impact a bit ago, closed the academy in 2019 to become a full time road agent for WWE, then got furloughed because the Canadian government wouldn't let him travel to the US during COVID, is doing some sort of online consulting for wrestling in the mean time
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2021 01:50
|
|
