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Not sure it it has been discussed already, but I just came across this video about hot sauce for coffee. The idea actually seems very logical to mee -- coffee just seems like the right kind of drink that would benefit from a kick to enhance the warming sensation in your throad & belly. Does anyone have experience with putting hot spices, or even spices in general, into coffee? Are there any things to do or avoid in particular before I start pouring my spice rack into my cup?
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# ? May 1, 2021 19:14 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 07:28 |
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I've been putting whiskey into my morning coffee for a decade
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# ? May 1, 2021 19:32 |
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Lord Stimperor posted:Not sure it it has been discussed already, but I just came across this video about hot sauce for coffee. The idea actually seems very logical to mee -- coffee just seems like the right kind of drink that would benefit from a kick to enhance the warming sensation in your throad & belly. I saw a video from Morgan Drinks Coffee about it; there's some logic to it, I've had spicy hot chocolate and spicy tea and both of those are good. I think it'd taste much better with milk + espresso beverages than straight drip coffee but I'd have to taste it to say for sure. I do worry about it kicking my heartburn into overdrive, however.
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# ? May 1, 2021 19:40 |
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I had a cayenne mocha at a nice café in the before times. Hated it but I should have known since I also dislike spiced hot cocoa, so my bad. Otoh I love powdered cardamom, chocolate bitters, or chicory-pecan bitters in my coffee very much.
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# ? May 1, 2021 20:33 |
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BrianBoitano posted:I had a cayenne mocha at a nice café in the before times. Hated it but I should have known since I also dislike spiced hot cocoa, so my bad. What kind of chocolate bitters do you use? I bought some sour cherry bitters recently to use in mixed drinks and seltzers and was disappointed, the overwhelming primary flavour was "alcohol" and I absolutely could not taste them in a drink
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# ? May 1, 2021 20:52 |
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What brand? I've never had bitters which primarily tasted of alcohol, sure that's the primary ingredient but there should be just a domination of extracted flavor first and foremost. I wonder if it was poorly prepared or sat in a hot warehouse for a month. My favorite is Scrappy's. Just pure chocolate flavor. Fee Brothers Aztec chocolate bitters is okay, but can muddy other subtle flavors in whatever you're using due to its inherent complexity.
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# ? May 1, 2021 22:05 |
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The brand is Kinsip, which looks to be a local Ontario production. It's possible it was improperly stored at the shop I bought it from, but I likely wouldn't take a chance on them again unless I could taste it first at a cocktail shop. As well I think the sour cherry flavour adds a lot of acidity that can also cover up flavours. I'll look into seeing if I can find Scrappy's anywhere local, thanks! I think flavoured coffee is something I'd like to experiment more with.
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# ? May 1, 2021 22:16 |
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Tippecanoe posted:I saw a video from Morgan Drinks Coffee about it; there's some logic to it, I've had spicy hot chocolate and spicy tea and both of those are good. I think it'd taste much better with milk + espresso beverages than straight drip coffee but I'd have to taste it to say for sure. I do worry about it kicking my heartburn into overdrive, however. That video is why I'm asking in fact; I forgot to include the link. When I did a quick Google search, the most popular-seeming variant seems to be a Morrocan blend, which countains cloves, cardamon, ginger, black pepper, and, unsurprisingly, cinnamon. The spices and coffee are brewed and extracted together. It's practically a Chai blend with the coriander skipped. Just need to convert the volumetric spice blend recipes to mass and the rest should be just a matter of tweaking. I'm suspecting that the brewing with spices shouldn't leave permanent contamination in a manual brewer, right? BrianBoitano posted:I had a cayenne mocha at a nice café in the before times. Hated it but I should have known since I also dislike spiced hot cocoa, so my bad. Mu Zeta posted:I've been putting whiskey into my morning coffee for a decade Whiskey makes me gag when I just get near the smell, but bitters are a funky idea. The term refers to the often syrupy, sweet kind of liqeur, right? Lots of spices, old-timey labels, and what grandpa would have had in the cupboard? Like Jagermeister?
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# ? May 2, 2021 09:27 |
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Jagermeister is a straight up liquor. Bitters go in cocktails in small amounts. The one most people know are the Angostura bitters brand.
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# ? May 2, 2021 11:35 |
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i only put whiskey in my coffee at christmas, when getting buzzed at 9:30 is practically encouraged i'm not sure i could be pro hot sauce in coffee, because "hot sauce" is generally super acidic and i can't imagine acid in my coffee would improve the flavour. i vaguely like the idea of warming spices in a coffee beverage, though. i sort of wonder what it might be like to grind and add a pinch to my espresso pre-extraction.
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# ? May 2, 2021 14:30 |
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Cardamom if you want to go for a Turkish coffee effect.
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# ? May 2, 2021 14:53 |
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mediaphage posted:i only put whiskey in my coffee at christmas, when getting buzzed at 9:30 is practically encouraged Coffee is itself acidic , with most varieties having 'an average pH value of 4.85 to 5.10' (pure water is at 7.0). You are correct, though, that hot sauce is more acidic. A shelf-stable hot sauce (that doesn't need to be refrigerated) would generally have a pH of 3.4 or below.
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Imagined posted:Coffee is itself acidic , with most varieties having 'an average pH value of 4.85 to 5.10' (pure water is at 7.0). You are correct, though, that hot sauce is more acidic. A shelf-stable hot sauce (that doesn't need to be refrigerated) would generally have a pH of 3.4 or below. well-brewed coffee will be pleasantly acidic though, there's enough balance with the other flavors that it doesn't read as sour on the tongue -- i think the point is, there's basically no way you could add vinegar (or a similar ph lacto-fermented thing) without throwing that out of whack
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# ? May 2, 2021 15:02 |
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Sunday is my roast day.
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# ? May 2, 2021 15:17 |
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I rotate through a number of things: nut butter (I make my own, each month is different), chocolate+speculoos, matcha green tea flavored almond milk, Saigon cinnamon, Kahlua.
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# ? May 2, 2021 15:18 |
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So, we tried it out - clove, cardamon, cinnamon, pepper, ginger, a tiny bit of sugar. The result was funky, but not bad. It smelled like tea. All the flavors came through just fine. I think the cinnamon and cardamon were the most noticeable. I preferred it with a bit of milk. That made the spices pop more. Took a while until the brewer didn't smell of cinnamon anymore, though.
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# ? May 2, 2021 17:38 |
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Lord Stimperor posted:bitters are a funky idea. The term refers to the often syrupy, sweet kind of liqeur, right? code:
Thumposaurus posted:Jagermeister is a straight up liquor.
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# ? May 2, 2021 19:38 |
Lord Stimperor posted:So, we tried it out - clove, cardamon, cinnamon, pepper, ginger, a tiny bit of sugar. The result was funky, but not bad. It smelled like tea. All the flavors came through just fine. I think the cinnamon and cardamon were the most noticeable. I preferred it with a bit of milk. That made the spices pop more. Took a while until the brewer didn't smell of cinnamon anymore, though. the other thing is that most spices are mainly fat-soluble compounds, hence frying them in oil prior to using them in a lot of cuisines -- water's always going to do a relatively poor job extracting all of the flavors if you like sweet coffee, you might find better results re: spice flavor by making them into a strongly-flavored syrup like you might for a cocktail
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# ? May 2, 2021 19:44 |
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Imagined posted:Coffee is itself acidic , with most varieties having 'an average pH value of 4.85 to 5.10' (pure water is at 7.0). You are correct, though, that hot sauce is more acidic. A shelf-stable hot sauce (that doesn't need to be refrigerated) would generally have a pH of 3.4 or below. yes i'm aware, but extra acidity can be really unpleasant in coffee. ThirstyBuck posted:Sunday is my roast day. tight, what are you roasting?
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# ? May 2, 2021 20:31 |
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ThirstyBuck posted:Sunday is my roast day. Ooh, I've wanted to get a Behmor for a while now. How do you find it? does it get real smoky indoors?
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# ? May 2, 2021 20:54 |
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Lord Stimperor posted:So, we tried it out - clove, cardamon, cinnamon, pepper, ginger, a tiny bit of sugar. The result was funky, but not bad. It smelled like tea. All the flavors came through just fine. I think the cinnamon and cardamon were the most noticeable. I preferred it with a bit of milk. That made the spices pop more. Took a while until the brewer didn't smell of cinnamon anymore, though. That with milk in black tea was what we called yogi chai back in the day. We'd do a meditation sesh, then have yogi tea and chill.
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# ? May 2, 2021 20:59 |
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Tippecanoe posted:Ooh, I've wanted to get a Behmor for a while now. How do you find it? does it get real smoky indoors? not op but personally i think their insistence that this is usable (and should only be used indoors) is bad bad bad with that said with very good extraction and placement near a window it's okay, though i'd want it to be a room that was closed off from the rest of the house personally mediaphage fucked around with this message at 21:30 on May 2, 2021 |
# ? May 2, 2021 21:24 |
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Tippecanoe posted:Ooh, I've wanted to get a Behmor for a while now. How do you find it? does it get real smoky indoors? I like mine, but it definitely does put off some fumes. Put it near an open window and/or an air filter. preferably in the garage or something like that
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# ? May 2, 2021 21:30 |
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BrianBoitano posted:Liqueur liquor Thanks for the clarification. I'm not a native English speaker and so I thought the liqeur/liquor was just British vs. American spelling. I'm actually quite fond of liquers, so that'll go in there sooner or later. eke out posted:the other thing is that most spices are mainly fat-soluble compounds, hence frying them in oil prior to using them in a lot of cuisines -- water's always going to do a relatively poor job extracting all of the flavors It's rare that I drink anything other than straight black. Never really liked those coffee syrups either. But I think I'll experiment a little and prepare my own spice mix and make something that I really like myself. Also an opportunity get a milk foamer and try out milks. I'm betting this will be really nice on a lazy Sunday, or shared on a special occassion. Mr. Mambold posted:That with milk in black tea was what we called yogi chai back in the day. We'd do a meditation sesh, then have yogi tea and chill. Yeah, exactly! The Morrocan spice blend is practically Chai but without coriander, and not far off from Lebanese 7-spices as well I think. It's funny that there's a spice palette that is shared from the West Africa over the Levante all the way to India. Can't help to wonder if there is a historical link over the Silk Road or something. Neat stuff.
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# ? May 2, 2021 21:31 |
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I’ve never roasted indoors and would never with a Behmor. It’s serviceable for what I’m doing with coffee and a step up would be very costly compared to potential gains. My main critique, and it’s minor, of it is that it can really only do 1/2 to 3/4 of a pound at a time. A full pound is almost always a disaster to roast. I was roasting a gift for my brother in law’s b-day. ThirstyBuck fucked around with this message at 02:00 on May 3, 2021 |
# ? May 2, 2021 22:17 |
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ThirstyBuck posted:I’ve never roasted indoors and would never with a Behmor. It’s serviceable for what I’m doing with coffee and a step up would be very costly compared to potential gains. My main critique, and it’s minor, of it is that it can really only do 1/2 to 3/4 of a pound at a time. A full pound is almost always a disaster to roast. i see this a lot and i just never agree. when i use the behmor i almost always do a full pound. it’s never an issue.
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# ? May 2, 2021 22:31 |
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Someone threw away a brand new ember mug and I managed to snag it. Gotta admit it’s pretty handy, but there’s no way I’d pay 100 bux for one
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# ? May 3, 2021 13:30 |
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Didn’t the Ember use to be a lot cheaper? I don’t remember it costing more than $60 until recently.
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# ? May 3, 2021 14:12 |
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Gunder posted:Didn’t the Ember used to be a lot cheaper? I don’t remember it costing more than $60 until recently. Price rose around when Hoffmann made a video about it iirc
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# ? May 3, 2021 14:13 |
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Democratic Pirate posted:The Starbucks by our hotel in Edinburgh was miles better than Starbucks I’ve had in the states, so this checks out. Coincidentally, the only coffee I drank this past Friday-Sunday was either a roadside Starbucks or the Pike Place k-cups at my parents house. I appreciate the break in routine, because the first cup back on my home setup was amazingly good in comparison.
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# ? May 3, 2021 14:16 |
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I tried the Ember mug for about two weeks, but the mandatory companion app is loving awful, at least the Android version. A list of some of the problems I've had:
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# ? May 3, 2021 20:04 |
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404notfound posted:I tried the Ember mug for about two weeks, but the mandatory companion app is loving awful, at least the Android version. A list of some of the problems I've had: ios app seems to work ok, though occasionally i don't get the push notifications for some reason.
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# ? May 3, 2021 20:12 |
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404notfound posted:Firmware update for mug kept getting stuck at 2% New thread title
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# ? May 3, 2021 20:43 |
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i own every Bionicle posted:New thread title
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# ? May 3, 2021 21:48 |
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i own every Bionicle posted:New thread title yes please
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# ? May 3, 2021 22:49 |
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i own every Bionicle posted:New thread title Yeah
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# ? May 3, 2021 23:06 |
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I was tempted by the ember, but the notion of getting push notifications from my mug just killed my enthusiasm.
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# ? May 3, 2021 23:18 |
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It's baffling to me that you'd need an open topped mug that keeps your coffee warm instead of just drinking it. How do you make coffee and not drink it? And $130 for it just seems absurd. Then again, Sharper Image still exists as a company.
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# ? May 3, 2021 23:25 |
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Gunder posted:I was tempted by the ember, but the notion of getting push notifications from my mug just killed my enthusiasm. lmao, yeah that sounds like hell to me
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# ? May 3, 2021 23:25 |
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Jhet posted:It's baffling to me that you'd need an open topped mug that keeps your coffee warm instead of just drinking it. How do you make coffee and not drink it? Doesn't a thermos solve this problem?
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# ? May 3, 2021 23:32 |