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paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
just a very ugly man

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paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
oops i forgot to not sign my posts and also post something

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


the CIA has not explicitly said bellingcat/higgins is one of their assets, so i guess they must not be!

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

you don't need to be paid by the cia to be a cia mouthpiece if your "research" is just digesting and cataloging cia propaganda like some sort of spookiepedia

but they're also paid by the cia lol

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

why is the dutch postcode lottery financing bellendcat?

THS
Sep 15, 2017


lol

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

sure the cia brags about how awesome they are


quote:

The work of Bellingcat, an open-source investigative outfit, has been instrumental in exposing years of nefarious Russian activity. But, perhaps more importantly, it has also enabled U.S. officials and lawmakers to discuss Moscow’s skullduggery openly without revealing the sources and methods of the U.S. intelligence agencies.

“I don’t want to be too dramatic, but we love this,” said Marc Polymeropolous, the CIA’s former deputy chief of operations for Europe and Eurasia.


When former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter were poisoned, it was Bellingcat that was first to publicly identify the two Russian military intelligence operatives that had traveled to the U.K. to spritz the door handle of the Skripals’ home with the Soviet-era nerve agent.

“Whenever we had to talk to our liaison partners about it, instead of trying to have things cleared or worry about classification issues, you could just reference their work,” said Polymeropolous, who retired from the CIA in 2019.
...
“The Russians routinely deny, and say, well present us the facts,” said Daniel Hoffman, a former CIA Chief of Station. “The greatest value of Bellingcat is that we can then go to the Russians and then say, there you go.”


and sure they’re funded by a cia cutout

quote:

In 1986, NED's President Carl Gershman said that the NED was created because "It would be terrible for democratic groups around the world to be seen as subsidized by the CIA. We saw that in the 1960's and that's why it has been discontinued".[55] Throughout the course of a 2010 investigation by ProPublica, Paul Steiger, the then editor in chief of the publication said that "those who spearheaded creation of NED have long acknowledged it was part of an effort to move from covert to overt efforts to foster democracy" and cited as evidence a 1991 interview in which then-NED president Allen Weinstein said, "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA."


but when you think about it, maybe they’re just a bunch of friendly anarchists

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

ned slanders

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


drat, okay! nothing to see here then i guess!

a few DRUNK BONERS
Mar 25, 2016

What does the name brown moses mean

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Trabisnikof posted:

sure the cia brags about how awesome they are



and sure they’re funded by a cia cutout



but when you think about it, maybe they’re just a bunch of friendly anarchists

if you send this to higgins he says its out of context

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star

a few DRUNK BONERS posted:

What does the name brown moses mean

its when you part your rear end hole

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

the CIA has not explicitly said bellingcat/higgins is one of their assets, so i guess they must not be!

To be a CIA asset, someone has to be directly acknowledged as an asset under the employment of the CIA.

To be a Russian asset, someone has to have at one point argued a point which coincides with something a person located in Russia said

a few DRUNK BONERS posted:

What does the name brown moses mean

It means he's analogous to a Moses for brown people.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Ytlaya posted:

To be a Russian asset, someone has to have at one point argued a point which coincides with something a person located in Russia said

i'm never gonna forget bernie being called a russian asset because he voted against russia sanctions that, in the same bill, also gutted the iran nuclear deal

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Ytlaya posted:


It means he's analogous to a Moses for fash people.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Doctor Jeep posted:

why is the dutch postcode lottery financing bellendcat?

Bellingcat has written bunch about the malaysia airlines flight 17 shoot down over Ukraine which mostly had dutch passengers aboard

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Meltdown May is only 4 days in and we are all already overwhelmed with content
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1389670793735331841?s=20

gently caress, they announced this specifically for Meltdown May didn't they

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Atrocious Joe posted:

Meltdown May is only 4 days in and we are all already overwhelmed with content
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1389670793735331841?s=20

gently caress, they announced this specifically for Meltdown May didn't they

https://twitter.com/BlkHmmrTimes/status/1389458129126137866

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

paul_soccer12 posted:

oops i forgot to not sign my posts and also post something

well you could do something by telling :siren: :siren: /!\ BROWN MOSES /!\ :siren: :siren: to post in the thread

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
I'm brown Moses

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/dominos/status/1386666409862733828?s=20

is that a robot delivery truck? the Noid is good now.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Did they seriously close the BtB thread the second someone posted anything other than mindless praise, loving hell

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

xtal posted:

I'm brown Moses

Brown Moses shared his work with the forums at least

DirtyRobot
Dec 15, 2003

it was a normally happy sunny day... but Dirty Robot was dirty
Aside from the NED, what are the other CIA cutouts?

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
have you heard of the D S A

DirtyRobot
Dec 15, 2003

it was a normally happy sunny day... but Dirty Robot was dirty

paul_soccer12 posted:

have you heard of the D S A

no they're clean:

Raskolnikov38 posted:

tfw you’re too much of liberal bootlicks for the government to COINTELPRO you

https://twitter.com/alexeiarora/status/1388967843358773248?s=21

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Wow, it took the FBI to find out what the D stands for

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Josh Christ posted:

I had managed to avoid hearing the intersectional cia ad until chapo covered it and I hate it, incredible psychic damage.

no way, it was insanely hilarious

CIA imposter syndrome is a great posting name

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Trabisnikof posted:

sure the cia brags about how awesome they are



and sure they’re funded by a cia cutout



but when you think about it, maybe they’re just a bunch of friendly anarchists

ah I was wondering what this was about lol

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1389650803770732544?s=19

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1389655149694554114?s=19

I'm sure they've stopped being a CIA front now

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Atrocious Joe posted:

Brown Moses shared his work with the forums at least

lol

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Atrocious Joe posted:

Brown Moses shared his work with the forums at least

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

You think the CIA still supports that Iowa Writers thing?

A friend of mine got accepted to do that program a few years ago and got pissed at me when I told them it's a government propaganda workshop

THS
Sep 15, 2017


lol he really has rationalized to himself that because it was 30 years ago that the founder of NED said they were a CIA front, that this isn’t relevant anymore. higgins is a moron’s moron. a real tool

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWPj2jFVUA&t=36s

Haven't you fools realized that what happened 30 years ago has no bearing on NED today.
https://twitter.com/NEDemocracy/status/1349721741917102082?s=20
The guy who led it since 1984 is retiring soon, it's a completely different organization from back then.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWPj2jFVUA&t=36s

Haven't you fools realized that what happened 30 years ago has no bearing on NED today.
https://twitter.com/NEDemocracy/status/1349721741917102082?s=20
The guy who led it since 1984 is retiring soon, it's a completely different organization from back then.

that's loving amazing

I'm more convinced than ever that brown Moses isn't a CIA op, with investigative and deductive skills like these it's entirely plausible that he manages to come to all his conclusions himself

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

XMNN posted:

that's loving amazing

I'm more convinced than ever that brown Moses isn't a CIA op, with investigative and deductive skills like these it's entirely plausible that he manages to come to all his conclusions himself

it’s like when Hillary said her paid speeches were no big deal because she agreed 100% with goldman sach before they paid her, so no corruption.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

THS posted:

lol he really has rationalized to himself that because it was 30 years ago that the founder of NED said they were a CIA front, that this isn’t relevant anymore. higgins is a moron’s moron. a real tool

we WERE a CIA front, but we're fine NOW, duh! This is just simple math folks.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Chapo was a Bernie front and he wanted to be the leader of the CIA

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

xtal posted:

Chapo was a Bernie front and he wanted to be the leader of the CIA

How about you just tell us the topic of 1 of your 3 podcasts? You can pick the least embarrassing of the topics!

Surely they can’t all be that shameful?

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

30 year old quotes about NED being a tool for US imperialism

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...05f3_story.html

quote:

The Trump administration proposal would allow the NED to continue issuing small grants but move funding of its core institutes to the State Department, where the IRI and NDI would have to compete with private contractors. The organizations involved argue that keeping funding decisions at arm’s length from the State Department allows the NED network to do things on the edges of the pro-democracy movement that the U.S. government can’t or won’t, such as supporting Chinese dissidents in ways that upset Beijing.

"USAID, the State Department and the endowment are a three-legged stool,”
said NDI President Kenneth Wollack. “Dismantling one of those legs would undermine a fundamental pillar of U.S. foreign policy — a policy that represents a convergence of our interests and values.” The proposal initially came out of the Office of Management and Budget, even though the State Department did not formally ask for it. A senior OMB official told me the administration supports the NED’s mission but wants to consolidate the funding streams to improve oversight and accountability. But the White House didn’t provide any evidence that the current model is inefficient.
https://twitter.com/NEDemocracy/status/1355252385199828995?s=20

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