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I just want to say that we once got a support request for a user with a name like "ryu cockasucka" and we're convinced we were being pranked until we looked it up in the corporate directory and there is no way you're not gonna laugh when something like that happens
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May 4, 2021 21:28
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when I was a telemarketer i had to call this guy and you better believe me and everyone around me had a solid chuckle https://www.linkedin.com/in/hunt-ramsbottom-137293a/
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May 4, 2021 21:31
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it’s fun to laugh at funny names, it’s dumb to keep a list of your customers’ names for the sole purpose of laughing at. this is a pretty basic respect thing, hope this helps dhh
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May 4, 2021 21:34
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my name in gaelic/old english means Crooked-Nose Fox. that’s funny!!!
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Gentle Autist posted:my name in gaelic/old english means Crooked-Nose Fox. that’s funny!!! you're named after your mother?
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Bloody posted:new post alert https://world.hey.com/jason/an-update-303f2f99 pleasant collection of words from Jason, but a simple "mea culpa" is the easy part, the hard part will be dealing with a situation in which 1) you've lost 30% of your headcount almost overnight, 2) you did so in a way that likely reinforces any preexisting cultural problems among the remaining employees, and 3) your recruiting pipeline is now going to self-select along those lines because you did all this in the most embarrassingly public way possible. Good luck Jase, y'all are noted management experts, I'm sure you'll get this under control Gentle Autist posted:it’s fun to laugh at funny names, it’s dumb to keep a list of your customers’ names for the sole purpose of laughing at. this is a pretty basic respect thing, hope this helps dhh 
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Blotto_Otter posted:pleasant collection of words from Jason, but a simple "mea culpa" is the easy part, the hard part will be dealing with a situation in which 1) you've lost 30% of your headcount almost overnight, 2) you did so in a way that likely reinforces any preexisting cultural problems among the remaining employees, and 3) your recruiting pipeline is now going to self-select along those lines because you did all this in the most embarrassingly public way possible. Good luck Jase, y'all are noted management experts, I'm sure you'll get this under control the most important takeaway to me is that they didn't fire the nazi
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qirex posted:the most important takeaway to me is that they didn't fire the nazi
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May 4, 2021 21:47
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point still holds. nazis should get fired
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May 4, 2021 21:48
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mystes posted:I thought he resigned? guess which of those actions you dont have to explain to your next employer altho i guess if you are high enough up it doesnt matter anymore
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May 4, 2021 21:49
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duz posted:guess which of those actions you dont have to explain to your next employer
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May 4, 2021 21:51
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qirex posted:the most important takeaway to me is that they didn't fire the nazi they "suspended" him "pending an investigation" then he resigned
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May 4, 2021 22:08
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refleks posted:point still holds. nazis should get fired
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May 4, 2021 22:09
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20 departures out of 57 employees is actually 35% lmao i suppose jason deserves some slight credit for acknowledging that the First Law Of Holes ("when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging") was in effect for him. as bland as his statement was, unlike all of their comms up until this point, it at least didnt make things worse
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May 4, 2021 22:11
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"we hosed up!" with no elaboration on how they hosed up, what decisions are being reversed or reconsidered. really the entire post can be translated as "sorry you got mad"
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DELETE CASCADE posted:"we hosed up!" with no elaboration on how they hosed up, what decisions are being reversed or reconsidered. really the entire post can be translated as "sorry you got mad" https://mobile.twitter.com/dril/status/660644922744262656
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May 4, 2021 22:35
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look, just because I'm way into reading white supremacy rag Breitbart doesn't make me a nazi
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refleks posted:point still holds. nazis should get fired yeah, if I were a basecamp employee, my takeaway would've been that the nazi didn't get fired for being a nazi, he
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FMguru posted:20 departures out of 57 employees is actually 35% lmao it's only 20 public departures. casey newton reported it's higher than that. apparently the buyout is still open so more people will probably leave once they talk to a few recruiters and realize they got better options
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May 4, 2021 23:05
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FMguru posted:20 departures out of 57 employees is actually 35% lmao nah, no credit for that, any kind of bland non-meltdown response at any of 20 points before this would have left this as a fully unknown non-issue.
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May 4, 2021 23:13
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get this: jason fried? more like jason................ ..........fired!!!!
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Achmed Jones posted:get this: 
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rotor posted:they "suspended" him "pending an investigation" then he resigned only after blowing up their whole company by defending him
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duz posted:guess which of those actions you dont have to explain to your next employer neither in california. they can only verify the dates you worked there not that it matters when everyone already knows the circumstances of your departure
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I remembered that john gruber is a friend of basecamp so I wondered if he'd posted anything, and all I found was this cowardice https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/04/27/ride-out-the-storm not that I'd ever expect john gruber to take a useful position on anything, but lol
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pokeyman posted:I remembered that john gruber is a friend of basecamp so I wondered if he'd posted anything, and all I found was this cowardice https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/04/27/ride-out-the-storm lmao @ john fireball vagueposting support for basecamp's ongoing meltdown(/reckoning?) with an excerpt of their own book best place to RIDE OUT THE STORM is opening an all-hands meeting from your bed and then cutting your camera+mic for the next several hours 
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Grace Baiting posted:lmao @ john fireball vagueposting support for basecamp's ongoing meltdown(/reckoning?) with an excerpt of their own book I generally enjoy takes from both john fireball and pinboard guy, but in this instance I am not surprised that people who have been working on their own for more than a decade, with no coworkers, bosses, or employees to manage, have a pretty big blindspot on this issue and are offering up lovely takes as a result Anyway, this next thing has nothing to do with basecamp directly, but it is very much the spiritual sequel to basecamp's meltdown, so I feel this is the most appropriate place to post it. Short version of the story: yesterday, the CEO of Washingtonian magazine (a Washington DC-area monthly) wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post bemoaning "erosion of office culture with more remote work", in which she not-so-subtly threatened all of her employees with stripping them of benefits by illegally reclassifying their employment status if they don't come back into the office to awkwardly stand around as someone hands out slices of stale birthday cake https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1390505948712783885 In response, the entire editorial staff of the magazine are tweeting out a statement and refusing to publish today: https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1390655605707321344 Weird couple of weeks for CEOs taking their perfectly good company and deciding to publicly light it on fire in just one post! edit: lol here's the second-best bit, nothing like closing out your public admonishment of your own workforce with a thinly-veiled threat to fire the employees who don't spend the most time in the office kissing the boss' rear end. Also, apparently the original headline was "As a CEO, I want my employees to understand the risks of not returning to work in the office", it was only changed to the still-bad but maybe less legally-actionable "erosion of office culture" one after someone realized the original headline made the threats a little too explicit https://twitter.com/cwarzel/status/1390502637934497795 Blotto_Otter fucked around with this message at 16:08 on May 7, 2021 |
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Imagine the huge loss in productivity when people aren't in the office throwing birthday parties for each other!
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qirex posted:executive ego gratification should be an "extra" task but to most executives it's
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As gross as that sentiment and article are its probably a good thing it was posted, because its just saying the quiet parts out loud. Whats to stop FAANGs from paying top tier wages for people living in tech meccas when they don't sit around annoying each other in their tech mecca open offices all day; I might as well pay you a fraction of your current salary and you move back home. They were already collecting info on who was working from different states/countries last year, ostensibly for tax reasons, but also I'm sure because if any of those arrangements became long term, they're going to come with "cost of living adjustments". ADINSX fucked around with this message at 16:45 on May 7, 2021 |
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the faangs are saying that out loud too. they have generally been open that people who go full remote and move out of sf bay area will get pay cuts
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qirex posted:executive ego gratification should be an "extra" task but to most executives it's a core function of the business and if she wants to watch her employees scuttle around like a personal ant farm because it makes her feel good by god she's going to make it happen I very briefly worked at GE and caught an elevator with my bosses bosses boss and one of his sycophants. During the ride the sycophant asked how the floor move was going, which had us office drones sitting shoulder to shoulder on floor 16 while they were remodeling things upstairs (to a nomadic desk structure, I was told). Mega boss replied "oh its going great, they're a bunch of busy little bees down there" and it was so gross and demeaning.
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Bloody posted:the faangs are saying that out loud too. they have generally been open that people who go full remote and move out of sf bay area will get pay cuts Sure I'm just saying that bosses writing articles about how gross they are is a good thing, instead of being gross in private
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Blotto_Otter posted:IAlso, apparently the original headline was "As a CEO, I want my employees to understand the risks of not returning to work in the office", it was only changed to the still-bad but maybe less legally-actionable "erosion of office culture" one after someone realized the original headline made the threats a little too explicit quote:As a:
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I mean it makes sense why the CEOs would be like that, their whole job is hanging around with other C-whatever-Os and investors talking bullshit, so their main concerns are always aesthetics. Especially with "tech companies" that don't do any real business or make any money.
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