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remember dhh and jason fried? authors of various books, including a bestseller, on how you can simply not be lovely to employees and be a better company for it? well, they've decided that sucks and have substantially changed policy: https://world.hey.com/jason/changes-at-basecamp-7f32afc5 apparently because they keep a list of customer names to mock or something: https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/27/22406673/basecamp-political-speech-policy-controversy predictably, there has been a massive amount of backlash. theyre offering buyouts to all employees who dont like the new direction and at current count, a third of the company is bailing: https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1388212468510380034 theyre trying to post through it (e.g. https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1386773744484552715) but overall this has really been an outstanding heel turn imo
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op I have no idea who any of these people are. regardless, who should I cancel ?
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theyre the people who made basecamp (bad project management software) and ruby on rails and a bunch of books and thought leadering. idc if you cancel them, im just enjoying a good heel turn
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if we've been discussing this in some other thread it probably deserves its own because this is some amazing management fuckery here
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50 ways to leave your founder
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It Doesn't Have to be Good at Work
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Captain Foo posted:50 ways to leave your founder just hop off the scrum, bum Iterate the app, jack Release the key, lee And get yourself free
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so far they've lost their entire iOS team, head of design, head of marketing lmfao someone started a DEI committee at basecamp before the original post of "DHH and jason are in charge, no politics, deal with it" (and had like a third of the employees commit to joining), that DEI committee was told to wind down
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it would be remiss of us to not mention the sauna post 2 days prior The Post https://world.hey.com/jason/i-bought-a-sauna-30088f7d
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how much of a poster do you have to be to get owned on internal coms and then just blow up your company because of it?
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when you should definitely change your name
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gentle reminder that these captains of industry, these people who have written NYT bestsellers on management, these new wunderkinds that were the subject of many glowing Forbes lead pieces, managed a company of approximately 55. So less people than the average american supermarket.
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lomarf although he is still just posting
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quote:2. No more paternalistic benefits. For years we've offered a fitness benefit, a wellness allowance, a farmer's market share, and continuing education allowances. They felt good at the time, but we've had a change of heart. It's none of our business what you do outside of work, and it's not Basecamp's place to encourage certain behaviors — regardless of good intention. By providing funds for certain things, we're getting too deep into nudging people's personal, individual choices. So we've ended these benefits, and, as compensation, paid every employee the full cash value of the benefits for this year. In addition, we recently introduced a 10% profit sharing plan to provide direct compensation that people can spend on whatever they'd like, privately, without company involvement or judgement. we're cutting all your benefits. but we'll give you the cash value of those benefits this year for free! what's that? next year? oh... i'm needed in the basement *mimes walking into basement behind big manager's chair*
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Hammerite posted:we're cutting all your benefits. but we'll give you the cash value of those benefits this year for free! what's that? next year? oh... i'm needed in the basement that thing is fine with me, as is getting rid of 360s. they said they were trading benefits for profit sharing.
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Jonny 290 posted:when you should definitely change your name say hello to drew e. pheberson
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flakeloaf posted:say hello to drew e. pheberson xD
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refleks posted:lomarf posting through it is a time-honored tradition.
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I’m outraged at whatever that is
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So, like, how many more people are going to accept buy-outs before they rescind the buyout offers?
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LanceHunter posted:So, like, how many more people are going to accept buy-outs before they rescind the buyout offers? so far a third of them it looks like
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the entire iOS team is gone apparently this is the Friday zoom happy hour topic of discussion at my employer, and a few others according to friends. "good luck trying to fill those roles" is the sentiment, after much laughing at the founders/cheering on those who have left. One of our recruiters is keeping an eye on that twitter thread.
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can't get rejected from the app store if there's no one to write your app
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oh christ they're gonna rename to Basedcamp now aren't they gently caress
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Bloody posted:theyre the people who made basecamp (bad project management software) and ruby on rails and a bunch of books and thought leadering. idc if you cancel them, im just enjoying a good heel turn idk who they are but i know ruby is super loving bad so i;d be bailing the gently caress out of that company if i were them.
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Jonny 290 posted:oh christ they're gonna rename to Basedcamp now aren't they gently caress lol maybe they'll try to pivot and run the next parler or whatever
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Shaggar posted:idk who they are but i know ruby is super loving bad so i;d be bailing the gently caress out of that company if i were them. yeah, see, the handling of this dumb situation is putting into perspective how minor the badness of ruby is in comparison. may in fact be that no mindless artifact can be quite as dumb as a real living ceo.
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ruby is fine. rails is p hosed up
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dhh is a dumbass but i dont think he'll do the cancel-culture thing simply bc he's positioned himself as opposed to the type of person that uses the phrase "cancel culture"
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ruby is just anime perl
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Achmed Jones posted:dhh is a dumbass but i dont think he'll do the cancel-culture thing simply bc he's positioned himself as opposed to the type of person that uses the phrase "cancel culture" this is clearly some triple-a level meltdown though, he is already torching his company and credibility, so i see no reason to expect him to stop short of anything in particular. Jonny 290 posted:ruby is just anime perl 
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yeah at no point is this dude gonna 'reel it in' he's gonna james damore it
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