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kilus aof posted:I assume they are talking about this article: I always took the important message of this dlc as being David’s brother is a loving monster.
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May 5, 2021 13:49
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The verbiage “his autistic mind” was a terribly worded line even back then though, yeesh.
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May 5, 2021 13:52
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A line delivered by said monstrous lovely brother, who is inserted as a character who clearly does not actually understand or want to understand the autism his brother lives with. Just about the only part of that article I agree with is that there should have been an option to just dome the fucker right off the bat once shep realized what was up. Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 13:58 on May 5, 2021 |
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May 5, 2021 13:56
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You do get to hit him and yell at him and then let him die alone in the sequel. Nobody actually leaves David there right?
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May 5, 2021 14:36
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You may not be able to kill him but I'm pretty sure even picking the evil option to leave David with him so his experiment continues has an interrupt to pistol whip him and shame him for what he's done? It most definitely was not a "story about a sympathetic abuser that's mostly interested in the abuser’s feelings and experience"
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May 5, 2021 14:38
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Yeah I'm not even arguing that there aren't options that end with fuckstick there getting his (which the article in question seems to be) I just think there should have been one for just offing the guy. That's it that's my one point of agreement with the writer.
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May 5, 2021 14:44
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Seemlar posted:You may not be able to kill him but I'm pretty sure even picking the evil option to leave David with him so his experiment continues has an interrupt to pistol whip him and shame him for what he's done? Even the Paragon option lets you pistol whip and righteously shame him for being an utter irredeemable monster. And then you can be continue to rub in his face what a monster he is in ME3.
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May 5, 2021 15:16
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I never actually played Overlord, but weirdly it's one of the OT things specifically referenced in Andromeda. The whole "anti-AI terrorist group" storyline centers on a woman whose son was injured by the Overlord experiments
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May 5, 2021 15:35
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It was prob my favorite dlc in the series, very spooky vibes
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May 5, 2021 15:48
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I mostly remember it for having boring gameplay.
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May 5, 2021 16:12
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Oh and being one of the only bits of ME2 to reference Shepard being a cyborg
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May 5, 2021 16:13
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Horizon Burning posted:lmfao Yeah if you're gonna be that upset over it take a principled stand and don't buy the game again? This guy was literally shaking and crying they were so upset playing Overlord and yet they're gonna shovel that money towards the Legendary edition.
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May 5, 2021 16:14
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Ginette Reno posted:Yeah if you're gonna be that upset over it take a principled stand and don't buy the game again? This guy was literally shaking and crying they were so upset playing Overlord and yet they're gonna shovel that money towards the Legendary edition. unless the cause is "harrass women" gamers are incapable of meaningful action
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May 5, 2021 16:21
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Horizon Burning posted:lmfao it's possibly a bad thing that i burst out laughing at that
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Psycho Landlord posted:A line delivered by said monstrous lovely brother, who is inserted as a character who clearly does not actually understand or want to understand the autism his brother lives with. I don't understand how you play that DLC and come away with the impression that Gavin is in any way sympathetic. He's a monster through and through. Though I thought if you don't pull an interrupt Shepard domes him on the spot, though maybe I'm thinking of Maelon.
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May 5, 2021 16:36
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The best part is in ME3 where you can simply forget to tell him that you rescued his brother and he'll wander off screen and shoot himself in the head.
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Seemlar posted:You may not be able to kill him but I'm pretty sure even picking the evil option to leave David with him so his experiment continues has an interrupt to pistol whip him and shame him for what he's done? The Renegade option is you punch him and tell him he's loving trash who deserves to die, but the research is too valuable to avoid war with the geth. The pistol whip is in the Paragon option lol This is ME2 Renegade too, where you're the "It's cool that your family died, this universe is better off without your weak bloodline" to your own squadmates guy. That cartoon rear end in a top hat isn't even on board.
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May 5, 2021 16:53
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I always thought ME2 Renegade was the most reasonable Renegade to be fair, compared to ME1's Space Racist and ME3's Giant War Criminal. More borderline sociopath than actual sociopath.
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May 5, 2021 16:56
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To be fair the renegade background option is literally a war criminal so they kind of give you that framing right out of the gate Not like we don't have a bunch of venerated war criminals considered heroes in the modern day so its not exactly unrealistic either
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May 5, 2021 17:08
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Whorelord posted:I always thought ME2 Renegade was the most reasonable Renegade to be fair, compared to ME1's Space Racist and ME3's Giant War Criminal. More borderline sociopath than actual sociopath. Story mission Renegade Shepard is fine. But because they need to fill out nearly every conversation with Renegade options to let you fill the bar up, a lot of side missions and squad dialogue has you be such an unbelievable rear end in a top hat you wonder why someone doesn't 'accidentally' put a bullet in Shepard during a training exercise. Samara doesn't need to take your poo poo.
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May 5, 2021 17:16
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Having read through that Vice article I will definitely play through Overlord again with an eye for how it handles the subject of autism and David. In my memory (and I've completed the DLC multiple times) I feel like the story is judging Gavin as unequivocally a monster for everything he has done - it is mostly from his perspective of the project rather than David's, but every shot we do get reinforced that Gavin is a piece of poo poo. It is unfortunate there is no option for immediate 'judgement' for Gavin but he certainly can get his just desserts in 3.
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Aphrodite posted:Story mission Renegade Shepard is fine. But because they need to fill out nearly every conversation with Renegade options to let you fill the bar up, a lot of side missions and squad dialogue has you be such an unbelievable rear end in a top hat you wonder why someone doesn't 'accidentally' put a bullet in Shepard during a training exercise. Yeah tbf when I did renegade I only really used the dialogue options against dickheads (like everyone on Noveria) and for the one liners like when you threaten to sell a guy's balls to a krogan, fun stuff like that.
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DourCricket posted:And for a complete 180 in mood here --- still on the fence whether or not to give them my money again given their track record but i def. messed around with this and got some decent looking wallpapers so kudos to them for putting this up (low effort, low hanging fruit i know but  ).
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DourCricket posted:And for a complete 180 in mood here --- Let us choose the same person multiple times, cowards.
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May 5, 2021 19:10
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Aphrodite posted:Let us choose the same person multiple times, cowards. Give it a few hours, someone on Reddit will have an All-Garrus wallpaper for us to use
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thrilla in vanilla posted:I always took the important message of this dlc as being David’s brother is a loving monster. yeah like i agree with the authors overall point but i think they are sorta full of poo poo and this whole paragraph quote:I ended up replaying the final fight over and over again, just so I could try to find a different ending for that conversation with Dr. Gavin Archer. I was trembling and crying and determined to find the set of dialogue choices which let me shoot the guy—or even arrest him. But that choice simply doesn’t exist. Overlord gave me no option to punish Gavin. There was no choice in which I could begin to find justice (or even retribution) for David. I couldn’t find a way to make Shepard see Gavin Archer’s actions as wholly unsympathetic. made me roll my loving, like as someone with physical and mental disabilities(idk what the pc word is) i get everyone has their breaking point and society is loving poo poo towards disabled folks of all types. but i get loving annoyed at times with this poo poo. you never hear these folks "crying" over how its loving hard to get a job in a wheelchair or how alot of places are completely inaccessible and you have to go online to see if places are handicap friendly before you visit. like again i get it. but this guy is just mad that you can't just shoot the tosser in the head. DourCricket posted:Having read through that Vice article I will definitely play through Overlord again with an eye for how it handles the subject of autism and David. In my memory (and I've completed the DLC multiple times) I feel like the story is judging Gavin as unequivocally a monster for everything he has done - it is mostly from his perspective of the project rather than David's, but every shot we do get reinforced that Gavin is a piece of poo poo. It is unfortunate there is no option for immediate 'judgement' for Gavin but he certainly can get his just desserts in 3. yeah this. i think it could have been handled way better but i think its handled better than the author says it is. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 20:00 on May 5, 2021 |
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Performance details - https://www.ea.com/games/mass-effect/mass-effect-legendary-edition/performance-details  PC can go up to 240fps!! - Hot drat.
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Pattonesque posted:I get the impression the Reapers want zero casualties though, at least in terms of their main forms Yeah this is true, since the implication in ME2 at least is that building another Reaper essentially requires harvesting huge amounts of organic material, which of course they can only do once every 50,000 years, and that's just the lovely human Reaper that you blow up using regular-rear end guns, not the really big ones.
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Did anyone post this? https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1390005818867679232?s=19 Per EA's site download will be available until May 31st or whenever the 'download threshold will be reached' whatever that means
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Yeah this is true, since the implication in ME2 at least is that building another Reaper essentially requires harvesting huge amounts of organic material, which of course they can only do once every 50,000 years, and that's just the lovely human Reaper that you blow up using regular-rear end guns, not the really big ones. yeah and even with a few hundred million years or a billion years that's not THAT many Reapers. And if I'm an immortal machine god I would be very put off if I, like, died
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It's a fair assumption that slow boating it from dark space put the Reapers at a disadvantage because they could not fill up on Mass Effects or human-goo or whatever they use for energy. Which would give added meaning to Shepards twarting them in the previous two games and why they would fixate on her.
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I think the general idea was that until this cycle, the Reapers enjoyed the benefit of catching the galaxy completely unprepared through their Citadel backdoor and didn't need huge numbers to overwhelm all civilization. But then this was kind of contradicted in ME3 with the Protheans fighting a centuries-long battle against the Reapers.
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Randomly remembered that shepards terrifying vision of the future in the prothean beacon is a bunch of pizza cheese melting on a motherboard, oh for the days when bioware had no money.
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exquisite tea posted:I think the general idea was that until this cycle, the Reapers enjoyed the benefit of catching the galaxy completely unprepared through their Citadel backdoor and didn't need huge numbers to overwhelm all civilization. But then this was kind of contradicted in ME3 with the Protheans fighting a centuries-long battle against the Reapers. The Protheans were unusual in that they had a more-or-less united (through subjugation) galaxy and could resist more effectively. But they lost the war the minute they lost the Citadel. which was the first minute IIRC Pattonesque fucked around with this message at 21:36 on May 5, 2021 |
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exquisite tea posted:I think the general idea was that until this cycle, the Reapers enjoyed the benefit of catching the galaxy completely unprepared through their Citadel backdoor and didn't need huge numbers to overwhelm all civilization. But then this was kind of contradicted in ME3 with the Protheans fighting a centuries-long battle against the Reapers. I'd assume that Reapers while being hard to kill are also expensive to replace so it would make sense that they would want to limit casualties as much as possible.
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Eau de MacGowan posted:Randomly remembered that shepards terrifying vision of the future in the prothean beacon is a bunch of pizza cheese melting on a motherboard, oh for the days when bioware had no money. That is the real future of the Synthesis ending and the Proteans were rightly afraid.
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