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temple posted:Orphix and Scarlet Spear are boring af. Easily the worst content I've done in Warframe. I can't think of anything worse. Maybe the isolation vault escort but even that has secrets and pillars to do if you are bored. They were OK, but the fact that they had some of the most important drops in the game made everyone grind them far more than anyone should.
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I liked the Orphix event and thought the gameplay was pretty fun, but I haven't revisited it in railjack form and don't intend to. Aside from Arcanes, it's kind of funny that the New Hot Warframe we were grinding for turned out to be kind of unimpressive imo and also extremely cheap in the Father shop, like you can get all the Lavos blueprints with less than a day's worth of Momcoin bounty turn-ins. I think it's a mistake to put stuff like that on a random node where eventually people are going to forget about Orphix Venom (or joined after it) and then drop in and be like "wait, the hell are we doing here?" I would personally have preferred they just throw stuff like Orphix Venom and Scarlet Spear into more frequent rotating events similar to the Thermia event that I assume nobody bothers with or Ghouls. It's really funny that per the post an Orphix node is now apparently required to progress, because lol if you have to do that solo.
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May 4, 2021 15:18
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Lol @ the idea of the game ever explaining any gameplay. "Wait, the hell are we doing here?" is like 95% of the content.
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May 4, 2021 21:41
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Mercury_Storm posted:Orphixes are very bad, boring content and that event was painful. Condrixes weren't much better. Scarlet Sphere was at least approachable to a newer player, plus was a decent source of 'stuff' for RJ and spoiler mode. Orphixes... were (and are?) miserable if you didn't have your own necromech (locked behind a big grind wall) and/or well equipped spoiler (locked behind an even bigger grind wall). It's the first event I ever bailed on.
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May 4, 2021 22:02
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BrianWilly posted:Lol @ the idea of the game ever explaining any gameplay. I think the lazy and unfortunate but not entirely absurd assumption DE is making is that if you've gotten this far into the game that you're doing orphix missions, you've probably gotten familiar enough with the game that you know that it doesn't explain poo poo and you need to open a wiki. The F2P model, especially DE's relatively loosely monetized PvE one, incentivizes DE to keep moving forward rather than revisiting old content, but by and large I feel that the past few years have been closer to three steps forward, two steps back than the other way around. So they'll probably improve Orphixes at some point, it's just that you don't know when. It took how many years for excavators in Excavation missions to have scaling HP and shields?
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MJ12 posted:So they'll probably improve Orphixes at some point, it's just that you don't know when. It took how many years for excavators in Excavation missions to have scaling HP and shields? they'll have to, soon, because every new player that tries to complete Railjack will run against the Orphix node that blocks Saturn Proxima and by emergent design there simply are no open squads to help out
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May 5, 2021 10:05
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It's not really hard to win an orphix node, particularly if there's a void storm in the region that'll lure additional players in. It's farming a single mission for multiple rotations that I don't see anyone doing. Is there any reason at all to try for a C rotation on those?
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hazardousmouse posted:Is there any reason at all to try for a C rotation on those?
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May 5, 2021 14:33
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one of these days i'm going to get an arcane worth a poo poo
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May 5, 2021 14:40
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RoadCrewWorker posted:gamble for one of the three 1.4% legendary acane hits i guess And you still need like 20 of them to have a useful arcane, right? I can't imagine even the most addicted gambler doing that
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May 5, 2021 14:45
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Even only a few of them has a noticeable effect, usually a little less reliable proc chance and a bit less oomf, though. But yeah, if the Orphix mode paid out some kind of token or score it'd be much more tempting to run than just the RNG drop table. But my preference for that in games is usually to have both some Jackpot! drops and a sideline to ensure some progress for your time.
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May 5, 2021 14:49
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Sevagoth is a lot of fun. Its weird how they undersold their frames but hyped up railjack.
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My problem with the Orphix stuff is really that if my mech dies I'm screwed. Really hard to recover from it if you're solo or carrying the team. I'd love to see some arcanes in the earlier rotations. 9 Orphix to get a small chance at a decent arcane makes me pretty meh about running them.
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May 5, 2021 15:25
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Mr Newsman posted:My problem with the Orphix stuff is really that if my mech dies I'm screwed. Really hard to recover from it if you're solo or carrying the team. Someone did the math and the hopes for max rank legendary arcane is like 300 hrs. But...players don't want eidolons to be irrelevant for the 12 people still doing them.
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May 5, 2021 15:29
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temple posted:Someone did the math and the hopes for max rank legendary arcane is like 300 hrs. But...players don't want eidolons to be irrelevant for the 12 people still doing them. Lol I knew it could be mathed out but didn't want to go through the effort. 300 feels like what I expected and absolutely gently caress that noise. The dual track points system from the event is the more reasonable iteration. Truly, I'm glad most arcanes suck so I'm not tempted to try and get any more than I have.
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hazardousmouse posted:Lol I knew it could be mathed out but didn't want to go through the effort. 300 feels like what I expected and absolutely gently caress that noise. The dual track points system from the event is the more reasonable iteration. Truly, I'm glad most arcanes suck so I'm not tempted to try and get any more than I have. The best way to get arcane sets is to farm plat and wait for an event that makes them globally available, then buy. Whever even nightwave puts up +1 arcane grace/energize the price tanks because the whole playerbase gets one. Same with legendary cores for anniversary events/tennocon/big oopsie bugs.
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hazardousmouse posted:And you still need like 20 of them to have a useful arcane, right? I can't imagine even the most addicted gambler doing that Yuuuppp.... 9 out of 10 arcanes in this game are designed to just not even be noticeable at lower levels, because not only is the effect strength 1/5th of the completed arcane but the trigger chance is 1/5th as well. So a lovely level 0 arcane is usually 1/25th as good as a completed one.
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Is the necromech worth grinding? I pretty much got Audrey then proceeded to ignore Deimos.
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May 5, 2021 18:42
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Does a corpus poo poo in a can?
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temple posted:Does a corpus poo poo in a can? No, they sell it.
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Mesadoram posted:Is the necromech worth grinding? I pretty much got Audrey then proceeded to ignore Deimos. It's a lot of fun and the Voidrig one comes with a free top-tier archgun. It's absolutely worth it.
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Mesadoram posted:Is the necromech worth grinding? I pretty much got Audrey then proceeded to ignore Deimos. If the idea of a big stompy robot with big fuckoff guns (or a sword) appeals to you in Warframe then they're a ton of fun when not being forced into a really bad mission type. If that doesn't seem like something you want then I wouldn't bother for the time being.
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May 5, 2021 19:18
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The dumbest fun I have with the mech is crouching. It just squashes itself into a compact little cube and is too hilarious. I just with I could fire the weapon crouched but it always stands back up to do anything.
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I have yet to fail one but I'm pretty sure them showing up on your map is proximity based. Just planting yourself in one spot and waiting seems like it'll get you failed.
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I've had the indicator bug out and get 'stuck' on one particular vent after I already shot it, so it just stayed on the now-invulnerable vent and never moved to the next one. That was apparently just a local bug though because my 3 teammates could still see the new marks and shoot the pipes that needed shot.
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Mesadoram posted:Is the necromech worth grinding? I pretty much got Audrey then proceeded to ignore Deimos. for general purposes no, they're just bad, slow warframes with a completely separate set of mods you have to obtain and level but Orphix forces you to use one (and might be a sign of things to come, unfortunately), plus there are a couple of edge cases where a necramech pulls ahead -- I think people were working out solo Eidolon tactics that used the mechs, for instance
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The Necramech question could also be, "Do you want to pilot an Space Marine Dreadnought only corn-themed for some reason?" Yes, yes you do. Corn for the corn throne!
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SpaceDrake posted:It's a lot of fun and the Voidrig one comes with a free top-tier archgun. It's absolutely worth it. Good to know, gonna need to check that out later. Orv posted:If the idea of a big stompy robot with big fuckoff guns (or a sword) appeals to you in Warframe then they're a ton of fun when not being forced into a really bad mission type. If that doesn't seem like something you want then I wouldn't bother for the time being. The "Time Being" part of the sentence is what gives me pause. They might have a larger plan for em.
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DreadUnknown posted:The Necramech question could also be, "Do you want to pilot an Space Marine Dreadnought only corn-themed for some reason?" Be sure to make some shucking hilarious corn puns.
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Mesadoram posted:The "Time Being" part of the sentence is what gives me pause. They might have a larger plan for em. Well, you can use them in most if not all standard mission types now via railjack intrinsics. But ultimately right now they are just another tool in your already very deep Toolbox of Little Mass Murders and there's nothing they do now better than anything else. Since they're no longer the hot new toy I doubt we'll see another event where having one is mandatory, so for most people I think it's safe to tack them onto your get all the things list near the end.
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It's fun if probably not that optimal to just hover midair on your mecha jumpjets and shoot all the swarming dudes beneath you (with your infinite-ammo arch gun) during open world bounties. You can mod the nechramech for -90% hover cost so you can basically float in place indefinitely. Voidrig's exalted turret mode is also ridiculously absurdly powerful if you have the arch-gun mods for it. Deploy the Arquebex and then just delete everything in your field of view with fully automatic 3-billion-damage-per-shot explosions. I had a lotta fun using it while farming the thermia fractures event. But other than the crazy-damage exalted weapons the main issue with Necramechs is that they only use arch-guns, and without some rare mods that are only farmed from specific things you probably barely touched, your gravimag'd arch-gun is probably worse at warcrimes than your favorite normal-sized primary/secondary. They also can't use stuff like energizing dash or arcane energize iirc so it's hard to keep up energy to keep using your exalted weapons. RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 22:32 on May 5, 2021 |
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So apparently, since I've been gone, AFKGoon is basically dead. Is the main guild still active these days? I last played when Xaku just dropped and I'm enjoying the hell out of playing the frame. Looks like I'm missing the, after a day of farming, Nezha Prime Neuronopotics, The Lavos Frame, Sevagoth Frame and the Necramech Is there a "quick" way to farm up rep with the Daimos people?
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Tiny Chalupa posted:So apparently, since I've been gone, AFKGoon is basically dead. Is the main guild still active these days? Quickest way to get Deimos rep is the bounties. If you can do like the Steel Path bounties quickly they are great (but I'm not sure what solo build for that would be), but do whatever gives you drops you need.
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I forget what's optimal and what isn't. Deimos has had rank up requirements lowered a couple of times since being introduced and I completely forget how conservation was changed. Largely I just slammed out bounties and vaults to build up a ton of mom coins, which goes real quick but they're individually not worth much. Helps that you can hit your daily cap in two or three runs of the highest tier bounty, iirc. You'll need some mining and fishing resources eventually and probably, though this may be one of the things that got changed, a few son tokens. I don't remember spending too much time doing deimos conservation and fishing but that day night cycle can get in the way of specific things being available. I also recall swapping to a mining laser that wasn't the top tier one in order to get some necessary items, but the void towers out in the open and in the vaults will just hand at least some of these to you if you do them with any regularity. someone who's put some time in to deimos more recently can certainly provide better and more specific advice. All of this is simply to say that it does take a bit of time to rank up but i seem to recall never really being locked out by anything other than daily timers. Run some bounties, spend a lottle bit of time doing a round of fishing or animal capture every now and again, and it'll go fairly quickly. e: there's also a need for plains and valis mining bits at some point but i completely forget if thats for rank up or gear, probably gear but again i have no idea.
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I’ve probably asked this before but like, is there any reason at all to use a “regular” weapon instead of Zaws or Kitguns? You can mod them out as high as possible but they still just won’t compare, right?
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BrianWilly posted:I’ve probably asked this before but like, is there any reason at all to use a “regular” weapon instead of Zaws or Kitguns? You can mod them out as high as possible but they still just won’t compare, right? zaws and kitguns are still somewhat over-represented among the highest performing weapons in each class but it's nowhere near as bad as you're suggesting here
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Many guns have useful gimmicks you can't replicate plus Kuva guns can get pretty wild. Especially in the primary space there's a bunch of stuff kitguns just don't do. Though Pax Seeker and stuff does obviously have value. And there's no Stropha-zaw.
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BrianWilly posted:I’ve probably asked this before but like, is there any reason at all to use a “regular” weapon instead of Zaws or Kitguns? You can mod them out as high as possible but they still just won’t compare, right?
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