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btrfs is the default filesystem on Fedora 33, at least for Desktop. any other new install would, by definition, be a special snowflake EDIT: beaten Rufus Ping posted:Btrfs is default as of fedora 33 and there is nothing weird about my setup
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May 5, 2021 23:10
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lol btrfs is default on 33? lmao.
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May 5, 2021 23:18
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still havin' zero problems on ubuntu in fact after an in-place upgrayedd to 20.04 everything works even better, especially multi-monitor stuff (near-instant connection of external displays even on the display manager's login screen thing)
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May 5, 2021 23:42
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yeah when I messed with Ubuntu recently after not touching a Linux in a long time it worked surprisingly well. they even let me put the dock on the bottom instead of the side like the forced people to do for a while I think
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May 5, 2021 23:56
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fedora is good and I will not see libel against it put silverblue on the machine and try again only in purity will you find peace
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May 6, 2021 01:08
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ubuntu if I have to use a linux. openbsd if I have to use something unix that isn’t necessarily linux. windows if I have to use graphical anything.
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Used a live usb to restore a backup of / (learned in the process of doing this that rsync doesn't have an equivalent of cp --reflink for btrfs cow) But I didn't have a backup of /boot so then the new kernel (the upgrade must have got this far before loving up) didn't match the restored modules in /lib Chrooted into it and reinstalled the right kernel with dnf Edit: i think dracut copied the cmdline of the running (live usb) kernel into my grub config here cos I had to fix it up by hand lol At this point it boots properly with selinux disabled but needs relabelling Restorecon fails due to no space on root device 
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May 6, 2021 02:19
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Insanite posted:fedora is good and I will not see libel against it hmm reacts to real user problems as if they were malicious lies. asserts that doubling down is the path to salvation. bazinga spotted the only tolerable distros are debian and ubuntu. debian if you're a linux nerd and ubuntu otherwise. centos used to be a decent rpm option but lol. just lol. i hope everyone running centos is enjoying their migration and/or license agreement with IBM
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May 6, 2021 02:57
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Rufus Ping posted:Used a live usb to restore a backup of / (learned in the process of doing this that rsync doesn't have an equivalent of cp --reflink for btrfs cow) restored backup with rsync? not btrfs subvolume delete whatever, then btrfs subvolume snapshot, to make writable copies at the same location as before?
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May 6, 2021 03:25
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Yeah that would have made more sense. I'll bear it in mind next time I try to upgrade and it all fucks up again
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May 6, 2021 03:33
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next month in linux thread...
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housesitting for my parents and i spent an hour trying to get wpa_supplicant and dhclient to cooperate and connect to the loving wifi. i dont know why it wasnt working cuz i can connect wwith the same method at my house and my sisters house without issue. i managed to connect to my phone tether long enough to get some kind of gui application, in this case nm-tray, and that worked and now im on my parents wifi network. thanks for reading my story
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May 6, 2021 04:36
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drat i love linux
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May 6, 2021 04:40
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Rufus Ping posted:Left my laptop upgrading to fedora 34 overnight and today I found it stuck on a black screen. I rebooted and now dozens of services are falling to start. Another successful day linuxing i was gonna upgrade my poo poo from fc32 to fc34 cos fc32 is gonna be out of support soon. now i am scared. gently caress u linux
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May 6, 2021 04:42
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I did 32 to 33 no problem fwiw
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May 6, 2021 04:49
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Rufus Ping posted:Used a live usb to restore a backup of / (learned in the process of doing this that rsync doesn't have an equivalent of cp --reflink for btrfs cow) it sounds like you ran out of space when upgrading.
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Gentle Autist posted:i was gonna upgrade my poo poo from fc32 to fc34 cos fc32 is gonna be out of support soon. now i am scared. gently caress u linux upgrade to buster
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May 6, 2021 04:59
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Nomnom Cookie posted:upgrade to buster
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May 6, 2021 04:59
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DoomTrainPhD posted:it sounds like you ran out of space when upgrading. Could well be this
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May 6, 2021 05:06
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I have never in my life upgraded a Linux, because I always get bored with my current distro and install a different one before it would be time to upgrade. at this point I can install a Linux and get my dotfiles set up in under an hour. that’s probably faster than upgrading anyway
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May 6, 2021 05:07
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I think I've strung together a dozen fedora updates on my home server and about four silverblue updates on my laptop at this point
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May 6, 2021 05:30
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I've never had any real issues with Fedora. I think most of the problems come from them releasing a new version every 6 months, which means that you could gently caress your install up twice a year. Whereas with Ubuntu most people run LTS and upgrade once every 2 years. Or in the case of Debian you upgrade when saturn is retrograde and the sixth son has ascended the throne of Mordecai.
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May 6, 2021 07:48
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Nomnom Cookie posted:upgrade to buster i just moved from debian to fedora like 6 months ago or something tho
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May 6, 2021 07:53
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DoomTrainPhD posted:it sounds like you ran out of space when upgrading. nix os would not have this issue because it isn't designed like it's 1977 and we need to perform upgrades in-place
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May 6, 2021 15:15
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Nomnom Cookie posted:hmm reacts to real user problems as if they were malicious lies. asserts that doubling down is the path to salvation. bazinga spotted please accept fedora into your life Sapozhnik posted:I think I've strung together a dozen fedora updates on my home server and about four silverblue updates on my laptop at this point hell yeah
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spankmeister posted:I've never had any real issues with Fedora. and i don't wear seatbelts and remain just as alive as the rest of you idiots  yeah, i think it mostly works, but pretty hosed up if it can break your install into a close to unrecoverable state if an update runs out of storage space.
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May 6, 2021 15:24
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Athas posted:nix os would not have this issue because it isn't designed like it's 1977 and we need to perform upgrades in-place My NixOS install constantly runs out of space during upgrades because it stores a kernel in the boot partition for each generation
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it is hosed up which is why you should use silverblue which does not have this problem. also linux people are becoming very fast at reverse-engineering new gpu architectures https://rosenzweig.io/blog/asahi-gpu-part-1.html https://rosenzweig.io/blog/asahi-gpu-part-2.html https://rosenzweig.io/blog/asahi-gpu-part-3.html https://rosenzweig.io/blog/asahi-gpu-part-4.html well, "linux people" mostly being "alyssa rosenzweig" although mesa's increasingly comprehensive common infrastructure helps a lot here.
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I will probably switch over to silverblue when all of my apps available as flatpaks or they come up with a better way to update system style apps containerized in toolboxes that doesn't involve you manually going into each and every toolbox one by one and updating them using the CLI.
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Sapozhnik posted:it is hosed up which is why you should use silverblue which does not have this problem. ah, that is real neat. i guess in general the linux on m1 project may be a bit easier than i first thought, as it is unlikely to be quite so wart-ridden as some ye olde arm socs.
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Sapozhnik posted:it is hosed up which is why you should use silverblue which does not have this problem. they're still at a relatively high level though. it's one thing to assemble your own shaders and command buffers and send them to the driver. writing your own kernel driver that handles all the minutiae of the hardware (power, clocks, queue management, etc...) with zero documentation is an entirely different beast. i dunno how complicated apple's hardware is, but when new amd hardware is added to the kernel driver, the headers with the register definitions alone are thousands of lines and their published documentation is hundreds of pages they got lucky when doing the ps4 linux thing because the gpu was basically standard amd hardware, and they managed to find some documentation on it that was accidentally left exposed to the public internet at some point The_Franz fucked around with this message at 17:11 on May 6, 2021 |
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May 6, 2021 17:09
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Gentle Autist posted:i just moved from debian to fedora like 6 months ago or something tho and now you are learning why that was a mistake
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Nomnom Cookie posted:upgrade to buster buster makes me feel good
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is there a distro which updates everyday or hour that people use? basically like a distro for the most extreme Linux junkies who have got to have the freshest purest rawest code imaginable?
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Arch, Gentoo, NixOS
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Gentoo has become somewhat conservative nowadays. KDE Plasma is usually one version behind upstream, the kernel follows LTS releases, gcc at 10.2, llvm at 11.1, and so on. Unless of course you want to have a painful experience and enable testing, then it's like Debian unstable.
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xtal posted:My NixOS install constantly runs out of space during upgrades because it stores a kernel in the boot partition for each generation Yeah, but the switchover is atomic, so I it won't leave the system unbootable (actually I'm not completely sure how the bootloader stuff works, so maybe not).
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Antigravitas posted:Gentoo has become somewhat conservative nowadays. KDE Plasma is usually one version behind upstream, the kernel follows LTS releases, gcc at 10.2, llvm at 11.1, and so on. gentoo, the button down distro that's learned from its mistakes
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