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I’ll give you the contact tracing but no one is doing that worth a poo poo. AFAIK there is still a travel quarantine though
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Saros posted:Imo the UK is going to see a massive june-july wave powered by the Indian and Kent variants amongst under 40's who won't have been vaccinated yet. Nobody will give a gently caress of course as potentially tens of thousands of people suffer long term harm from covid because of reopening too soon for the third time in a row Vaccine passports will 100% become a thing if this happens. Whinging gammons will be essentially given a choice, learn how to install an app on your loving phone or you, personally, get to go back into lockdown.
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May 6, 2021 21:37
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learnincurve posted:I had the “honour” of being one of the reported cases on the news back when every new case was newsworthy. Some dickhead took their daughter Skiing in Italy and then the family fled back to the U.K. when there was a outbreak at the resort, the kid then sat next to my daughter in class. Her school thought it was just “the sickness bug” going round the class like wildfire, till a kid with lung issues landed in hospital and got tested. Was the second time worse or milder for you?
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May 6, 2021 21:42
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MarcusSA posted:I’ll give you the contact tracing but no one is doing that worth a poo poo. There is technically a quarantine but it's barely enforced. You can evade it simply by lying on your arrival card. They don't even bother to separate out red list country arrivals from everyone else lol so people just wander through infecting everyone else waiting in the ques. All the fully vaccinated Tory voters get their holidays while everyone else suffers.
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May 6, 2021 21:44
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Warm weather and school breaks will put enough of a damper on it that the big wave will come in the fall. I’m not saying “oh it will just go away in the summer”. I am saying that those two factors are stronger than any current government action and that people will be caught unawares when those non-pharmaceutical non-interventions end and Rt shifts accordingly.
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May 6, 2021 21:48
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Was the second time worse or milder for you? Milder, the first time it dragged like I was hungover and dizzy for weeks, second time was a few days - I work with the vulnerable so any “uh oh!” moments and you get tested no arguments (even if had been a regular sickness I can’t go near them for 48 hours after last symptom)
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May 6, 2021 21:54
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Regardless of what people here seem to think it seems like the UK is doing pretty good. 
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May 6, 2021 21:55
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The UK tracing is pretty serious now. I’ve had daily phone calls since getting back from Sweden and taken multiple tests. Friends have had the police round if they’ve missed the calls and I believe the call locations are tracked to make sure you are not moving around. Border control were serious about seeing all the proofs too. Took way too long but it’s legit good now.
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May 6, 2021 21:58
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Bape Culture posted:The UK tracing is pretty serious now. I’ve had daily phone calls since getting back from Sweden and taken multiple tests. Friends have had the police round if they’ve missed the calls and I believe the call locations are tracked to make sure you are not moving around. Border control were serious about seeing all the proofs too. Took way too long but it’s legit good now. But someone else just said it’s all poo poo and they aren’t doing anything???  Not sure which is true (yes I do)!
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May 6, 2021 21:59
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I've had friends come back from the States and France in the last few weeks and neither lot heard a single thing from track and trace other than the briefest glance at their planned day 2/8 testing documentation and declaration as they passed through border control.
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May 6, 2021 22:11
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Around the holidays in 2019 there was a really lovely cold here that everyone got, which was unusually chesty, hung around for weeks, and caused a few chest/sinus infections that I know of. I came down with it just before flying to Florida for new years and as a result there are probably two planes full of people out there who think I gave them covid on the flight.
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May 6, 2021 22:12
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One weird trick to save literal pence in contact tracing (original idea; do not steal): Only trace half the cases. The half of people who got traced will defend your honour against the other half.
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May 6, 2021 22:14
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I'm really just curious at this point what's gonna happen when nightclubs and full indoor mixing reopen. Are companies gonna try force everyone back into crowded trains and offices? What specific horse race event is the June 21 date timed to allow?
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May 6, 2021 22:20
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Sjs00 posted:Hey when the Covid19 virus mutates into a no poo poo for real rabies/zombie virus you just let me know because you will encounter that poo poo before I will (if you go to the gym) you're being a remarkable rear end in a top hat here on top of being incorrect since the sars 2 virus is not going to mutate into some existential ebolapox nightmare
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May 6, 2021 22:26
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26 hours after my J&J shot and I'm pretty tired and soar all over, that's about it though.
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May 6, 2021 22:28
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Detheros posted:26 hours after my J&J shot and I'm pretty tired and soar all over, that's about it though. Hell, I wish Pfizer made me fly all over the place.
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May 6, 2021 22:33
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learnincurve posted:I had the “honour” of being one of the reported cases on the news back when every new case was newsworthy. Some dickhead took their daughter Skiing in Italy and then the family fled back to the U.K. when there was a outbreak at the resort, the kid then sat next to my daughter in class. Her school thought it was just “the sickness bug” going round the class like wildfire, till a kid with lung issues landed in hospital and got tested. Christ man, leave some covid for the rest of us, would you?
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May 6, 2021 22:47
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Went out to buy some shampoo and stuff today and let the cashier lady upsell the crap out of me. I bought twice as much stuff but saved 15% see, minus the cost of enrolling in their loyalty program and also received several FREE gifts such as a towel and a little canvas bag and some travel size hair products. Dang it feels good to go out shopping again!!
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May 7, 2021 00:27
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HonorableTB posted:you're being a remarkable rear end in a top hat here on top of being incorrect since the sars 2 virus is not going to mutate into some existential ebolapox nightmare oh god do we have another plague called ebolapox now hakimashou posted:Went out to buy some shampoo and stuff today and let the cashier lady upsell the crap out of me. I bought twice as much stuff but saved 15% see, minus the cost of enrolling in their loyalty program and also received several FREE gifts such as a towel and a little canvas bag and some travel size hair products. where the gently caress do you go shopping? walmart doesn't have that poo poo.
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May 7, 2021 00:55
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boar guy posted:that's going to be a problem for a lot of people. i know for a fact that people are all a little crazy right now; i had several parents come up to me after games I reffed and say stuff like 'sorry for yelling at you, i just haven't seen my kid play in so long' which on a personal level makes me go The aggro levels are crazy high right now quote:FAA warns of spike in unruly, dangerous passenger behavior Saros posted:So good news as long as you ignore the fact the UK still can't be arsed to do even the bare minimum quarantine and contact tracing. The fact that they mostly vaxxed their population with Sinopharm and Covishield prrrrrrrrrrrrrobably factored into the outbreak as well. E: I'm seeing a bunch of anti-vax fuckwits on social media whining "If Seychelles is the most vaxxed country in the world and they're still getting massive outbreaks then what is even the point of these vaccines??!??!???" Mr.Pibbleton posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qxtxIVtOZE He not only got the game cancelled, he got the entire NBA season cancelled (and the NHL, MLB and MLS followed soon after). But that chain of events was also what convinced a huge percentage of the US population that this virus thing is actually pretty serious and they should stop loving around with it so in a weird roundabout way Gobert's dumb stunt probably saved a lot of lives. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 02:47 on May 7, 2021 |
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May 7, 2021 02:44
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but on a practical level i suppose i understand
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Seychelles island managed to get their population of 98,000 residents 60% vaxxed and then declared that the pandemic was over as far as they were concerned and threw open their borders to any tourist who could show a negative PCR test from the 72 hours before arrival, no vaccine and no quarantine required. That didn't go well for them, with a sudden surge in cases forcing them to close schools and ban sports etc etc.. drat. That’s a shame. I want to visit the Seychelles someday, but not during a global pandemic and especially not when there’s a lit sign saying “WELCOME WORLD‐CLASS IDIOTS!”
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May 7, 2021 02:48
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The aggro levels are crazy high right now I work at a major international airport and yeah poo poo has gotten fuckin wild. That number doesn't even take into account incidents that are happening prior to passengers boarding or even pre screening. People have lost their drat minds.
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May 7, 2021 02:51
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:He not only got the game cancelled, he got the entire NBA season cancelled (and the NHL, MLB and MLS followed soon after). But that chain of events was also what convinced a huge percentage of the US population that this virus thing is actually pretty serious and they should stop loving around with it so in a weird roundabout way Gobert's dumb stunt probably saved a lot of lives. “What if Gobert hadn’t tested positive?” and “What if Tom Hanks’ illness had been more severe?” are good counterfactual prompts.
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May 7, 2021 03:07
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Apparently close to 900k have died from Covid in the U.S. https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...covid-19-in-u-s That’s 57% more than “official” figures, which is...lmao
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May 7, 2021 03:13
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That’s an IHME estimate and I don’t think it can be true because it significantly exceeds measures of excess deaths. It is possible for the real COVID toll to exceed excess deaths because traffic fatalities and such went down, but is there that much room for it to increase?
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May 7, 2021 03:23
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Platystemon posted:That’s an IHME estimate and I don’t think it can be true because it significantly exceeds measures of excess deaths. FWIW traffic deaths seem to have gone up. quote:Driving was markedly down in 2020, yet a new report found a surprising and alarming statistic: Traffic deaths actually rose last year. The National Safety Council (NSC) says deaths from motor vehicles rose 8% last year, with as many as 42,060 people dying in vehicle crashes
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May 7, 2021 03:27
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The aggro levels are crazy high right now That article is all over the place in its implications. So 60% are vaccined, but none with mRNA ones which continue to be regarded as the best. They opened the doors and saw a massive rise in cases. But then it says nothing about hospital admissions and deaths. So are they all asymptomatic? I thought the main objective of the vaccines was to reduce severity. So isn't it inevitable that cases are going to rise? It then finishes by saying UK cases have massively fallen after vaccination but most people are getting AZ, which is the same as Covidshield right? So uh.... why is it different? Is this implication they're tiptoeing around 'the UK is super hosed'? I mean it wouldn't surprise me, our government is clownshoes, but again I thought the objective of the vaccines was just to reduce severity and associated pressure on health systems. Like I was paying attention to death rates but the media seems to be going off cases. So many implications but little information. Was the case rise just a wave of intense extraordinary amounts of people that may or may not matter much in terms of deaths? Is it a sign that AZ is ineffective which has major implications for the UK? What even are the objectives of the vaccines? Reducing severity or reducing cases? If the objective is to reduce both then yeah our lives are going to have to stay disrupted, no cinemas, restaurants or sports games until better vaccines (if possible). If its just to reduce deaths then we can do more assuming the vaccines work. Whichever one of these is true, it needs to be communicated better. Because I don't know what the gently caress the news stories want me to take away from this. Sometimes it's like they're cheerfully stating the apocalypse before ending with a snappy quip and then a clickbait link.
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May 7, 2021 03:31
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Has anyone experienced double dip side effects? I got my second dose last Wednesday, Thursday was a nightmare but I've felt tip top since then. But today I've felt like I've had a low grade fever, a sore throat and my body feels fatigued. I thought it was allergies but a pill didn't seem to help me Maybe I have something else but wanted to know if anyone else experienced this too
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May 7, 2021 03:49
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low key sex master posted:Has anyone experienced double dip side effects? I got my second dose last Wednesday, Thursday was a nightmare but I've felt tip top since then. But today I've felt like I've had a low grade fever, a sore throat and my body feels fatigued. I thought it was allergies but a pill didn't seem to help me LOL, I got my second Moderna at 10:30 AM Wednesday. I spent today achey and tired, and just a few minutes ago started feeling warm. Turns out NOW I have a 100F/38C fever.
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May 7, 2021 03:53
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is that directed at me? I'm generally optimistic and consider the vaccines to give us the advantage that we can slowly chip away at the virus. It's just I don't know what to make of information like that which just implies 'they got vaccines but they're still hosed, and now the weather'. It feels like people are saying the vaccines work but only if we continue to act like we don't have vaccines. I mean it's an interesting case: If vaccines don't allow Seychelles to open their doors then how is a place like that, which depends mostly on tourism, going to survive?
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May 7, 2021 03:54
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Posting IHME data should be banned after they put out graphs for months showing that covid cases would dwindle to nothing by June
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May 7, 2021 03:55
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low key sex master posted:Has anyone experienced double dip side effects? I got my second dose last Wednesday, Thursday was a nightmare but I've felt tip top since then. But today I've felt like I've had a low grade fever, a sore throat and my body feels fatigued. I thought it was allergies but a pill didn't seem to help me Yep. Got jab #2 and 4 hours later was sleepier than I had ever felt in my life. That passed after 30 hours or so. About 24 hours after that I had a massive “zero motivation/no energy” feeling that lasted about a day. I should mention the two symptoms felt totally different and distinct. The first caused me to nod off if I stopped moving or sat down, like cartoon narcolepsy. The second was like my batteries were run down. Awake, but not at home as it were. Through it all and still I have the lingering metallic flavor upon my tongue. It goes away if I eat but creeps back after. I don’t care for it.
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May 7, 2021 04:21
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:
This was at Aveda
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May 7, 2021 04:26
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Regarde Aduck posted:is that directed at me? The article also said that 2/3 of those infected were unvaccinated and that 60% of the vaccines given were the non AZ one. I don’t know if you can make much from it. Need to know more about the non AZ vaccine and infection associated with those who were vaccinated
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May 7, 2021 04:29
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Regarde Aduck posted:That article is all over the place in its implications. Yeah the news media have really been beating up the story. Here's where they're at with infections:  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/seychelles/ Their averaged rate peaked a few days ago at 145 cases. Which sound like not a lot at all, but since new year's they've had 6000 cases which is pretty significant for an island with a population of only 98,000 people. They've also only had 28 deaths on the island throughout the entire pandemic, but 8 of them were in the last week. E: of course that's only the numbers up to today, you never can tell where that exponential growth is going to end up Regarde Aduck posted:I mean it's an interesting case: If vaccines don't allow Seychelles to open their doors then how is a place like that, which depends mostly on tourism, going to survive? Hotel quarantine for incoming travelers. Asking for nothing apart from a negative PCR in the 72 hours before arriving is GUARANTEED to bring in cases, it's massively massively inadequate. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 04:35 on May 7, 2021 |
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the chief v2 posted:The article also said that 2/3 of those infected were unvaccinated and that 60% of the vaccines given were the non AZ one. I don’t know if you can make much from it. Need to know more about the non AZ vaccine and infection associated with those who were vaccinated The sinovac vaccine is notably garbage. Even the Chinese government has come out to say it sucks rear end, and they rarely admit mistakes.
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May 7, 2021 04:38
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Moderna #2 trip report: nothing until about 22 hours after, then felt like a mild flu the rest of the day. Luckily I could just lay in bed. Fever was 99.5 at 9pm and 100.5 at 12:30AM last night, however this morning I felt OK and the same thermometer said 96.6, so maybe the fever was 102? No metallic taste. A late night shower felt good. I played tennis right after getting the shot, pretty hard for the second time in a year, so the vaccine achiness was mixed with actual muscle soreness. I regret nothing.
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May 7, 2021 06:38
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36 hours after my J&J shot and it's kicking my rear end, mostly fatigue and muscle soreness but jeez that shift at work was rough, this must be the 5g installing firmware.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah the news media have really been beating up the story. Here's where they're at with infections: How many of the dead lot were vaccinated???
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