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the fact that the pentagon is one of the most secure and watched places in the us has only one camera angle of “the plane” that is barely visible really should be a red flag.
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Delta-Wye posted:keeping in mind its the '9/11 is real and here is how it goes down, as published in march 2001' episode, i don't know where else to post this, so I'm going to interrupt plane chat with this. it used to keep me up at night, i think it's fascinating and a bit scary. every intel processor (at least used to be, idk about more recent architectures) have a hidden mode called system management mode. other arch vendors like amd have introduced smm as well. if you can trick the processor into dropping into smm, you can do a plethora of things. read memory, interact with peripherals, suck up CPU cycles doing something nefarious, whatever. when you're done you release the processor back into normal mode and there is 0 measurable trace that anything happened. it is 100% completely unobservable by anything (baremetal hypervisors, operating systems, antivirus). its simply jawdropping to me that this is in loving everything and noone really has any idea. its not trivial to trigger and has limited functionality but that is almost a feature in this usecase. the only way to know you have a persistent smm virus in your hdd firmware or somewhere else equally insidious is to constantly and paranoidly check some external wall clock reference time and see if you've executed the right number of instructions over time. its a bloody mess, basically. this feature has been around forever, but i was seeing published stuff starting in maybe the late 00's and while there are now publicly known nsa attack vectors using this avenue, they weren't published until the twenty teens. literally every intel processor has a huge ol' backdoor built into it and i didn't realize it at the time, but i first heard about it on a xfiles spinoff pilot 
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Look, all I'm saying is that Frank Herbert was right
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Riot Bimbo posted:Look, all I'm saying is that Frank Herbert was right
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May 6, 2021 08:35
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Not sure if it’s processor related, but a bunch of people in the area of the Ferguson protests had their phones and phone cameras turned on remotely, even while powered off.
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May 6, 2021 08:42
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You ever notice your computer do something weird? The screen will blink, maybe WoW takes a bit longer to load than you're used to? RIP
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The_Rob posted:the fact that the pentagon is one of the most secure and watched places in the us has only one camera angle of “the plane” that is barely visible really should be a red flag. there's a lot of things people think is true about the "omnipresent US surveillance state" that they never refute because it serves their image/goals i dunno the full extent of the fuckery that happened on 9/11, but once you try to expand the attack beyond the hijackers and include US actor assistance and/or faked flights with no passengers or whatever other nonsense, you grow the whole operation to something beyond feasibly existing without collapsing prior or being immediately exposed thereafter
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just lol if you think that literally everything you do on a device with a microchip isn't recorded somewhere, at the very least by the usa and china
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Mola Yam posted:just lol if you think that literally everything you do on a device with a microchip isn't recorded somewhere, at the very least by the usa and china tbh I suspect most of my personal data lives in excel spreadsheets getting passed between data vendors advertisers like illicit porn mags
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animist posted:tbh I suspect most of my personal data lives in excel spreadsheets getting passed between data vendors advertisers like illicit porn mags Lol remember when we found out about a project called “total information awareness” being run by Iran contra convict John poindexter and it had to drop its logo and change its name because it was just a little too on the nose? 
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nomad2020 posted:You ever notice your computer do something weird? The screen will blink, maybe WoW takes a bit longer to load than you're used to? i have a command prompt that opens on my laptop about once every couple hours for a split second and i have no idea what it's doing. fuckin lenovo!!
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Had to double check dates, if for some reason you're still using a Lenovo laptop shipped around the end of '14 you might have Spyware and a bad cert in your BIOS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish Not really conspiracy level, just normal fuckery.
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Real hurthling! posted:theres no way that a barely trained pilot flying a commercial aircraft for the first time could hit the pentagon at the angle he did. what if God was on their side
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Delta-Wye posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwmRpdyriII  Didn’t 9/11 get the X-Files cancelled, too?
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No? It limped along but was garbage once they killed off The Lone Gunmen.
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https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1390472663500562432
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His lifestyle is very different and kind of intriguing! Many people are saying it.
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Atrocious Joe posted:what if God was on their side
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Atrocious Joe posted:God was on their side
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Worth remembering that while the cabal are monsters, they're also real stupid.
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StratGoatCom posted:Worth remembering that while the cabal are monsters, they're also real stupid.
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Tubgoat posted:Doesn't matter, they can disappear anyone who cares enough to do anything. Having power and using it effectively are different things.
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May 7, 2021 04:42
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Limited hangout. What if Melinda to begin with came from the IC, which itself could have helped grease the monopolistic wheels that began Bill's meteoric rise to the top without him even knowing it at first. Bill's entire career had her there to support it. Wasn't it a common spook trick to capture up and comers that way?
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How sanitized can a hangout get? Someone took the word "limited" way too seriouslyquote:One associate in the technology world who’s attended the same events as Epstein, including a TED conference in Monterey, California, was surprised Gates had considered cultivating philanthropic ties with the late peadophile.
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May 7, 2021 06:32
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Bill's meteoric rise came from his sex appeal and ability to jump over an office chair, not some woman's manipulations.
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Happy Thread posted:How sanitized can a hangout get? Someone took the word "limited" way too seriously They rationalized it with a six word manifesto: - More money for me - gently caress kids
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god drat that's a lot of microsoft ties to epstein
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I always thought Bill Gates's mom eating rear end and Bill Gates stealing computer time was how Bill made it to monopoly. By always, I mean the day I heard all three episodes of Grubstakers about him.
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The thing 9/11 conspiracies I never understand is the discrepancy between hyper competent plotters who could make sure things are covered up for decades in service to a plan that's completely retarded and nonsensical. If they meticulously organised every detail behind the scenes and dripfeed all the information to the public then why would you not just say that Iraq conclusively did it instead of complicating things with a Saudi failson. Why the endless stumbling and dithering and invention of WMD bullshit. You can say "oh they're just very incompetent" but if they're that incompetent surely something would have leaked by now. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Digiwizzard posted:The thing 9/11 conspiracies I never understand is the discrepancy between hyper competent plotters who could make sure things are covered up for decades in service to a plan that's completely retarded and nonsensical. that's why i just believe that america knew it was coming and let it happen, rather than that they did it themselves
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Homora Gaykemi posted:that's why i just believe that america knew it was coming and let it happen, rather than that they did it themselves
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Homora Gaykemi posted:that's why i just believe that america knew it was coming and let it happen, rather than that they did it themselves The cia knew it was coming and tipped off somebody in government, possibly the son of a former director.
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Homora Gaykemi posted:that's why i just believe that america knew it was coming and let it happen, rather than that they did it themselves I recall reading The Looming Tower that it felt like a story designed to give plausible cover for a much more horrible truth it's much easier to digest that 9/11 was just a coincidence of severe incompetence and alphabet boy dick swinging than the alternative, you know?
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weren't there a lot of people connected with the WTC and/or anthrax attacks who died via weird circumstances over the months after? i thought i read something a while back about how one of the eyewitneeses (Jennings?) vanished and so did his family? someone who met the highjackers ended up poisoned? and i think the nanny of the bush family?
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a lot of people die in weird circumstances period, so that mode of analysis is pretty iffy imo
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seriously? because coincidences exist we shouldn't consider this set of coincidences which all seem to serve a specific motive? that's pretty intellectually lazy no one's talking about the burden of proof here because we know that's not possible given the circumstances. the only way to get some semblance of a narrative is through this sort of free association of events and coincidences. everything surrounding stuff like 9/11 and anthrax is a jumbled mess of competing and conflicting narratives, i'd say intentionally so. that interpretation fits nicely into the thesis that there's no grand nefarious plans or specific deep state actors orchestrating everything, just the individual actions of a bunch of self serving oligarchs. that still leaves plenty of room for monstrously evil deeds and huge sprawling coverups, including assassination campaigns of journalists and eyewitnesses.
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The null hypothesis that the CIA created a monster that they lost control of again perfectly explains 9/11.
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you could do one of those iceberg diagrams just with iterations of 9/11 conspiracies
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It really doesn't explain what legitimately looks like cleanup of loose threads during and after the attack and some other stuff. It isnt an implausible official story, I personally dont disbelieve it entirely, but theres a lot of weird loving poo poo that's not just meme tier idiocy going on, to a degree that if, somehow, the truth that it was a domestic plot came to light, I'd be ready to accept it. At the end of the day, "figuring this stuff out" is alienating as hell, and encourages bad habits with regards to training a brain to detect eal patterns versus false positives, which feels like a precarious path for someone with plenty of mental stress already, so i work pretty hard to step back and limit my mental engagement. 9/11 stuff has way too much noise and not enough signal for me to want to engage with conspiratorially. The OKC stuff is legit alarming and distressing though. Lots of holes. Lots of weird deaths and events. Lots of poo poo doesnt add up or hold up to scrutiny, and i just cant be charitable about the motives of the fbi or cia or any of those groups. It's malevolent-incompetence-at-best.
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As an aside, I really don't think 'cabal' is the right word for the Epstein lot - I'd use 'clique', it's really like, 5 or 7 separate cabals jockeying for influence and power, plus the occasional 'small differences making vast rifts' fight on ideology. Epstein was just a power player in all of them.
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